Do you think women can be taught to avoid being lookist?

[Crusile]

Given how culturally loaded and subjective looks are, i think they can. As of now, looks standards are still being artificially enforced.

Women are pretty reasonable unlike idiotic stubborn men who need ideas to sound "dark triad" and epic for them to believe. The conversion rate for women to left wing ideas is like 100% in unrestricted environments

 

[Deleted member 29167]

cant override biology

 

[actual9cmjawslayer]

A large portion of them already are
It works on most of them but only to an extent of course

 

[Deleted member 28731]

You can indoctrinate them to prefer chad, chaddam, chadvskij, chang, chadriguez or tyrone, same shit different day

 

[orangomango2003]

humans will always be lookist. if you change the standards for looks the women will still be lookist. they just changed their standard they didn't change their way of thinking. you can't change that biological fact. So lookism can't be avoided. It's like saying you can brainwash women into liking black men. You can brainwash them but they will always have a preference. The fact of having a preference itself is a form of lookism and you can't be taught to not have preferences. You can brainwash women into liking short men but then they will still have a preference and therefore they will still be lookist.

 

[Kamui]

Being lookist is literally in our genes and DNA . It helped our species to survive and continue on, nothing can change that.

You can indoctrinate them to prefer chad, chaddam, chadvskij, chang, chadriguez or tyrone, same shit different day

also nigga wtf is a chadvskij

 

[lasnt]

Ethnic women in their country already are

 

[incel194012940]

how would you measure lookism?

compare to example racism, 90+% of women will not make overtly racist statements/decisions but still biased, has an impact

 

[Lebgfinal]

kind of hard to force them to go agaisn't their own nature tbh

 

[Deleted member 29796]

Yeah, society largely influences it, artificially, as you suggested. I don't treat people differently based on looks, never have, but I know looks might matter for my offspring, but I might be beyond that, but can I be morally beyond it?

 

[LowTrust]

can't override biology, they still have a core foundation of what is attractive (healthy looking) and what is bad for their future genes (ethnics, deformities, noticeable failos)

 

[Deleted member 26197]

Impossible to avoid, it is the natural order of the dating world. You can only learn to play following the rules of this situation

 

[Repentsinner]

Only If you don't allow them to work

 

[AsGoodAsItGets]

Given how culturally loaded and subjective looks are, i think they can. As of now, looks standards are still being artificially enforced.

Women are pretty reasonable unlike idiotic stubborn men who need ideas to sound "dark triad" and epic for them to believe. The conversion rate for women to left wing ideas is like 100% in unrestricted environments

cant override biology

Being lookist is literally in our genes and DNA . It helped our species to survive and continue on, nothing can change that.

also nigga wtf is a chadvskij

It's in the genes as a proxy indicator for health.

It's not a rule but an exception. If it wasn't, everyone living today would be Chad.

In the days of OLD, of feministic-led selection, it's changing a bit due to it becoming a rule per se at the moment. But evolution doesn't happen in 30 years.

 

[Deleted member 21531]

Sure if they lack status or money then they'll chase that over looks or at least at the same level

 

[Crusile]

Ill respond itt but my argument relies on human nature not existing. humans are sentient with free will, we aren't controlled by our "nature" or "instinct".

 

[FutureSlayer]

kind of hard to force them to go agaisn't their own nature tbh

like we didn’t for millenia

 

[FutureSlayer]

Given how culturally loaded and subjective looks are, i think they can. As of now, looks standards are still being artificially enforced.

Women are pretty reasonable unlike idiotic stubborn men who need ideas to sound "dark triad" and epic for them to believe. The conversion rate for women to left wing ideas is like 100% in unrestricted environments

women being left wing is pretty much the opposite of being reasonable tbh

 

[Interested]

Another day, another

Why should they be taught to avoid being lookist? There's nothing wrong with being lookist, since it's in our nature. Both men and women are, and always will be picky to ensure their offspring has the best genes.

An unfortunate truth

 

[saiya_online]

Ill respond itt but my argument relies on human nature not existing. humans are sentient with free will, we aren't controlled by our "nature" or "instinct".

Free will to the extant that our minds still have a lizard brain and will act primal on instinct. You may think "oh but you made the decision because you felt like it" but you can't force something to happen. Same as for women wanting physically attractive men, they could go after high IQ men but their natural instinct wants to go for strong and dominant types.

 

[HerpDerpson]

Given how culturally loaded and subjective looks are

Stopped reading.

 

[thenewhebbe]

Ill respond itt but my argument relies on human nature not existing. humans are sentient with free will, we aren't controlled by our "nature" or "instinct".

Low iq

 

[thenewhebbe]

Hollywood tried and ut failed

 

[Interested]

Women are pretty reasonable unlike idiotic stubborn men who need ideas to sound "dark triad" and epic for them to believe.

@Crusile based alpha/dark triad believer

Alpha/Dark triad = good personality = high SMV, confirmed by our own favourite bluepilled furry

 

[SubSigma]

Women see the average guy the way the average guy sees a landwhale. No matter how many fat positivity posters get hung up, fat women will never be attractive to the average man. The average man will never be attractive to the average woman.

 

[Crusile]

Women see the average guy the way the average guy sees a landwhale. No matter how many fat positivity posters get hung up, fat women will never be attractive to the average man. The average man will never be attractive to the average woman.

fat phobia taints your preferences. There's plenty of men attracted to obese women, 2/3 of Americans are obese

 

[Crusile]

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Alpha/Dark triad = good personality = high SMV, confirmed by our own favourite bluepilled furry

They still prefer HQNP Chad but something must explain their attraction, it's obviously personality

 

[Interested]

They still prefer HQNP Chad

something must explain their attraction

it's obviously personality

They prefer Chad, you said it yourself. Being a Chad is not a personality trait, it's a term meant for good-looking people.
(note: I'm not a believer of this whole chad bs myself, just wanted to show how you keep contradicting yourself)

 

[Crusile]

They prefer Chad, you said it yourself. Being a Chad is not a personality trait, it's a term meant for good-looking people.
(note: I'm not a believer of this whole chad bs myself, just wanted to show how you keep contradicting yourself)

Chad is looks and personality, obviously

 

[Crusile]

cant override biology

"thoughts/preferences" cant be reduced to "biology" lol

humans will always be lookist. if you change the standards for looks the women will still be lookist. they just changed their standard they didn't change their way of thinking. you can't change that biological fact. So lookism can't be avoided. It's like saying you can brainwash women into liking black men. You can brainwash them but they will always have a preference. The fact of having a preference itself is a form of lookism and you can't be taught to not have preferences. You can brainwash women into liking short men but then they will still have a preference and therefore they will still be lookist.

What if the standard became not to judge people based on their looks? and date your looksmatch ie dont be attracted to people "better looking than you".

Being lookist is literally in our genes and DNA . It helped our species to survive and continue on, nothing can change that.

also nigga wtf is a chadvskij

Where does "lookism" exist in our genes?

how would you measure lookism?

compare to example racism, 90+% of women will not make overtly racist statements/decisions but still biased, has an impact

You could test for the hailo effect, not sure. Dating apps also

Yeah, society largely influences it, artificially, as you suggested. I don't treat people differently based on looks, never have, but I know looks might matter for my offspring, but I might be beyond that, but can I be morally beyond it?

Same, this forum makes me forget that most people Irl dont treat people differently based on their looks. at most its a subtle hailo effect that literally doesnt matter after age 25

 

[Ragnar]

Biggest iq larper ive ever seen

 

[humanoidsub7]

Given how culturally loaded and subjective looks are, i think they can. As of now, looks standards are still being artificially enforced.

Women are pretty reasonable unlike idiotic stubborn men who need ideas to sound "dark triad" and epic for them to believe. The conversion rate for women to left wing ideas is like 100% in unrestricted environments

it's just like trying to refuse the halo effect. it's wired into us

 

[Deleted member 24781]

Given how culturally loaded and subjective looks

Attractiveness is objective and not subjective.

 

[Deleted member 30323]

The amount of copium in this thread smh.

Humans will always be lookist, men, women, trans, everyone, everyone will be lookist

 

[Deleted member 24781]

@Crusile You may passively plaster my comments with the crying emoji all you like, but it's an objective fact what's attractive and what's not as evident with one day old infants being able to tell the difference between unattractive faces and attractive faces. The field of genetics is built around it and so is evolutionary psychology, hence, the terms dysgenic and eugenic.

 

[Deleted member 24781]

The amount of copium in this thread smh.

Humans will always be lookist, men, women, trans, everyone, everyone will be lookist

Women prioritise primarily cues of status over good looks.