Do you truly think you want it bad enough?

[miserycel]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t

 

[Thodian]

I DNRd the paragraph but I do want ts bad enough who doesnt wanna be beautiful

 

[miserycel]

I DNRd the paragraph but I do want ts bad enough who doesnt wanna be beautiful

My point was does your actions truly reflect that desire though

 

[Thodian]

My point was does your actions truly reflect that desire though

Yea but most things wont do the same level as surgery so its AAS and pharmacology until the hardmax

 

[polarpop]

thats most people who know about LM lmao

 

[miserycel]

thats most people who know about LM lmao

Yeah true. I’m that way inclined as well, it’s a rough cycle to get out of

 

[Thief]

I don't like to put in effort, not worth it to me

 

[miserycel]

I don't like to put in effort, not worth it to me

Easy to say if you were born with a HMTN>= base

 

[Thief]

Easy to say if you were born with a HMTN>= base

Nothing about me is above average except my physique to be honest, and I guess my standard of living given I reside in America

But if I had to work hard for said physique, I wouldn't, I workout maybe once a week and take drugs to sustain whats left of me, if said drugs weren't inexpensive such that I was allotted detriment or strain for their acquisition I'd also stop doing that

Maybe I'm lying, I'd have to think too much to give a formal answer, and perhaps live a little longer

 

[miserycel]

Nothing about me is above average except my physique to be honest, and I guess my standard of living given I reside in America

But if I had to work hard for said physique, I wouldn't, I workout maybe once a week and take drugs to sustain whats left of me, if said drugs weren't inexpensive such that I was allotted detriment or strain for their acquisition I'd also stop doing that

Maybe I'm lying, I'd have to think too much to give a formal answer, and perhaps live a little longer

Just depends if you care about girls and social acceptance enough. If you’re already doing well in both those areas then yeah I can see where you’re coming from, I’d be the exact same

A lot of people on here love to claim if you’re LTN/MTN it’s over but it’s really not that hard what’s truly hard is finding a worthwhile and trustworthy girl

 

[Thief]

Just depends if you care about girls and social acceptance enough. If you’re already doing well in both those areas then yeah I can see where you’re coming from, I’d be the exact same

A lot of people on here love to claim if you’re LTN/MTN it’s over but it’s really not that hard what’s truly hard is finding a worthwhile and trustworthy girl

I understand my answer now, you're correct and you've caught me, thinking about it from that perspective I resigned a while ago, I went to highschool online for my last 3 years, skipped graduation, and I've not come into physical contact nor conversed with a woman in quite some time

All I was saying above is that I've given up on what you've mentioned, not necessarily that I am against effort

 

[miserycel]

I understand my answer now, you're correct and you've caught me, thinking about it from that perspective I resigned a while ago, I went to highschool online for my last 3 years, skipped graduation, and I've not come into physical contact nor conversed with a woman in quite some time

All I was saying above is that I've given up on what you've mentioned, not necessarily that I am against effort

Honestly I’m in your boat as well.

Spent my last year of high school online and since going to uni this last year my attendance was 15% and I made an effort to actually avoid socialising and thus made no friends.

It’s very weird when you really desire something but completely push it away, especially when there’s no rational reason to

 

[7nclave]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t

nope i don’t want it

 

[miserycel]

nope i don’t want it

You don’t want to be attractive you mean?

 

[7nclave]

You don’t want to be attractive you mean?

of course i do but i don’t want it bad enough

 

[orbicularis]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t

lmao most people on this forum will just ldar and do nothing to ascend despite their terrible quality of life. Or ppl arent willing to take risks such as roiding and exogenous hormones.

 

[miserycel]

lmao most people on this forum will just ldar and do nothing to ascend despite their terrible quality of life. Or ppl arent willing to take risks such as roiding and exogenous hormones.

Very true.

It’s kinda hard to actually commit and stay disciplined especially if you’re not in the right mental state like majority of ppl in this forum are

End of the day tho it is true you gotta force yourself to change or stay miserable

 

[orbicularis]

Very true.

It’s kinda hard to actually commit and stay disciplined especially if you’re not in the right mental state like majority of ppl in this forum are

End of the day tho it is true you gotta force yourself to change or stay miserable

exactly, if you hate your looks bad enough you dont need motivation youll just do anything to acsend . Tbh i kinda think ascending can be really good for mental health if you dont get dragged down the LM rabbit hole never being happy

 

[miserycel]

exactly, if you hate your looks bad enough you dont need motivation youll just do anything to acsend . Tbh i kinda think ascending can be really good for mental health if you dont get dragged down the LM rabbit hole never being happy

Sadly majority of people are already bp

At least for myself, I still think that if I ascend , don’t even need to reach HTN-CL, but if I just ascend I’ll be able to get a girl I think it’s just finding a trustworthy woman who you can enjoy your time with is completely hopeless, won’t ever get that unless ur Chad

 

[subhuman37]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t

can’t relate bro, i am a fucking chud but im trying my best to save up for surgery, im alr pinning and have an expander on my mouth but i look foward to make as much as i can so i can get the right producers for my face, you should do the same too bro

 

[orbicularis]

Sadly majority of people are already bp

At least for myself, I still think that if I ascend , don’t even need to reach HTN-CL, but if I just ascend I’ll be able to get a girl I think it’s just finding a trustworthy woman who you can enjoy your time with is completely hopeless, won’t ever get that unless ur Chad

yeah a very large majority of young women have been brainwashed into thinking hookup culture and being a "youngho" (whore) is cool. Shows like love island and trends are terrible especially when women are exposed to them on social media at a young age. genuinely dont know if ill be able to find a loyal girl whos not a whore in this generation of women.

 

[miserycel]

can’t relate bro, i am a fucking chud but im trying my best to save up for surgery, im alr pinning and have an expander on my mouth but i look foward to make as much as i can so i can get the right producers for my face, you should do the same too bro

I respect your grind

I would like to do the same too but I’ve cooked myself mentally, don’t think I can even ascend properly until I get my head screwed on right so I’m waiting on a loan I get soon and I’ll spend it all on nootropics

 

[orbicularis]

can’t relate bro, i am a fucking chud but im trying my best to save up for surgery, im alr pinning and have an expander on my mouth but i look foward to make as much as i can so i can get the right producers for my face, you should do the same too bro

Mirin brah wish you the best

 

[miserycel]

yeah a very large majority of young women have been brainwashed into thinking hookup culture and being a "youngho" (whore) is cool. Shows like love island and trends are terrible especially when women are exposed to them on social media at a young age. genuinely dont know if ill be able to find a loyal girl whos not a whore in this generation of women.

Exactly dude.

You’d think for the amount of guys who are just simply virgins who want another virgin girl they could just marry and spend their 20s with goofing around and just having innocent fun but god forbid you tell one of these morbid women you want a girl who’s a virgin like yourself and they’ll go as far as to call you a pedophile

JBG…

 

[subhuman37]

I respect your grind

I would like to do the same too but I’ve cooked myself mentally, don’t think I can even ascend properly until I get my head screwed on right so I’m waiting on a loan I get soon and I’ll spend it all on nootropics

you can bro, i fully relate to you, my mental health was and still is cooked, it’s to the point were i don’t even like going outside bc of how ugly i am, but ik crying won’t get me anywhere, ive alr cried too many times for me to realize this, i believe in you, i wish you the best and im certain that if you try you will get what you want if not even better

 

[subhuman37]

Mirin brah wish you the best

thank you bro i wish you the best too

 

[miserycel]

you can bro, i fully relate to you, my mental health was and still is cooked, it’s to the point were i don’t even like going outside bc of how ugly i am, but ik crying won’t get me anywhere, ive alr cried too many times for me to realize this, i believe in you, i wish you the best and im certain that if you try you will get what you want if not even better

I appreciate your words man, honestly

I lowkey spent like the last 9 months of my life as a hikkikomori (cringe word imo but idk how else to describe it) so even going outside is fucking brutal. but like you said I’d rather be sad and depressed making progress than rotting in a repetitive cycle so just gotta take the first step

Let’s hope the future is bright for the both of us, hope all your current efforts are serving you well

 

[orbicularis]

Exactly dude.

You’d think for the amount of guys who are just simply virgins who want another virgin girl they could just marry and spend their 20s with goofing around and just having innocent fun but god forbid you tell one of these morbid women you want a girl who’s a virgin like yourself and they’ll go as far as to call you a pedophile

JBG…

 

[orbicularis]

I appreciate your words man, honestly

I lowkey spent like the last 9 months of my life as a hikkikomori (cringe word imo but idk how else to describe it) so even going outside is fucking brutal. but like you said I’d rather be sad and depressed making progress than rotting in a repetitive cycle so just gotta take the first step

Let’s hope the future is bright for the both of us, hope all your current efforts are serving you well

First ever positive interaction on this fuckass forum

 

[miserycel]

First ever positive interaction on this fuckass forum

Too much negativity isn’t good, I’m not nice to myself so i like to be nice to others to keep a good balance

Not as if being a dipshit gets you anywhere anyways

 

[subhuman37]

I appreciate your words man, honestly

I lowkey spent like the last 9 months of my life as a hikkikomori (cringe word imo but idk how else to describe it) so even going outside is fucking brutal. but like you said I’d rather be sad and depressed making progress than rotting in a repetitive cycle so just gotta take the first step

Let’s hope the future is bright for the both of us, hope all your current efforts are serving you well

exactly bro, just keep pushing it through, time goes by fast, if you worked and kept saving money , before you realize it you would alr have enough money to get any procedure you’d want, i’d wish nothing but the best for you bro, i also call my life a hikkikomori, even tho i work and get a lot of money, i hate the fact that people see my hideous face, most of the time i think about genuinely quitting bc i don’t want to be seen by the public, but ik that wouldn’t be the best option so i just keep going bc at the same time one day this will all be over and i will finally meet my desire

 

[subhuman37]

First ever positive interaction on this fuckass forum

spread love and positivity yk what im saying

 

[orbicularis]

spread love and positivity yk what im saying

yes twin

 

[Lozyverse]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t

Yea but some people also dont got the power to really looksmaxx with effort like for example someone cant afford this or that but me personally im trying to ascend but not at full max effort i go to the gym i just bought ghkcu for clear skin cjc + ipa for gym like i could get hgh but i couldn’t afford it yk and ill get braces soon ill beg for a MARPE cuz my maxilla is recessed and zygo but yeah you get my point? Like people looksmaxx with what they have

 

[miserycel]

exactly bro, just keep pushing it through, time goes by fast, if you worked and kept saving money , before you realize it you would alr have enough money to get any procedure you’d want, i’d wish nothing but the best for you bro, i also call my life a hikkikomori, even tho i work and get a lot of money, i hate the fact that people see my hideous face, most of the time i think about genuinely quitting bc i don’t want to be seen by the public, but ik that wouldn’t be the best option so i just keep going bc at the same time one day this will all be over and i will finally meet my desire

Fr bro, brutal pill is when you lock yourself in your room all day dreaming about a life outside, can’t continue like that tho

We gonna make this shit happen mirin your determination

 

[miserycel]

Yea but some people also dont got the power to really looksmaxx with effort like for example someone cant afford this or that but me personally im trying to ascend but not at full max effort i go to the gym i just bought ghkcu for clear skin cjc + ipa for gym like i could get hgh but i couldn’t afford it yk and ill get braces soon ill beg for a MARPE cuz my maxilla is recessed and zygo but yeah you get my point? Like people looksmaxx with what they have

Yeah i know what you mean. I’d say you’re doing as good as you can right now, mirin that

I’m getting on reta very soon waiting on a shipment eventually I’m getting on ghkcu also i have a lot of the same problems you do but I’ll prob go for Invisalign over braces

Let’s get this boyo

 

[lucifer88]

Yea but some people also dont got the power to really looksmaxx with effort like for example someone cant afford this or that but me personally im trying to ascend but not at full max effort i go to the gym i just bought ghkcu for clear skin cjc + ipa for gym like i could get hgh but i couldn’t afford it yk and ill get braces soon ill beg for a MARPE cuz my maxilla is recessed and zygo but yeah you get my point? Like people looksmaxx with what they have

"cjc"

 

[lucifer88]

Yea but some people also dont got the power to really looksmaxx with effort like for example someone cant afford this or that but me personally im trying to ascend but not at full max effort i go to the gym i just bought ghkcu for clear skin cjc + ipa for gym like i could get hgh but i couldn’t afford it yk and ill get braces soon ill beg for a MARPE cuz my maxilla is recessed and zygo but yeah you get my point? Like people looksmaxx with what they have

kid you're fucking hilarious

 

[Lozyverse]

Yeah i know what you mean. I’d say you’re doing as good as you can right now, mirin that

I’m getting on reta very soon waiting on a shipment eventually I’m getting on ghkcu also i have a lot of the same problems you do but I’ll prob go for Invisalign over braces

Let’s get this boyo

lmao im also waiting on shipment but im happy with long hair that way i can cover my recessed zygo but yk idk how to debloat thats also a problem i do mew like everytime i can remember but idk if that even does something and sometimes i think im so fucking chopped if i do anything it wouldnt even matter so i just rest my face

 

[Lozyverse]

kid you're fucking hilarious

Then tf you want me to do then?

 

[miserycel]

lmao im also waiting on shipment but im happy with long hair that way i can cover my recessed zygo but yk idk how to debloat thats also a problem i do mew like everytime i can remember but idk if that even does something and sometimes i think im so fucking chopped if i do anything it wouldnt even matter so i just rest my face

Think with debloat its hydration + gut health matters a lot, even then getting as lean as you can, around 10-15% you’re barely ever gonna look puffy at all

 

[Lozyverse]

kid you're fucking hilarious

Oh and btw instead of laughing maybe u could try helping since im obviously grey smh

 

[lucifer88]

Oh and btw instead of laughing maybe u could try helping since im obviously grey smh

researching is free

 

[Lozyverse]

researching is free

No shit?

 

[Pale God]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t