Do you truly think you want it bad enough?

[5may5five]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t

 

[thodian]

I DNRd the paragraph but I do want ts bad enough who doesnt wanna be beautiful

 

[5may5five]

I DNRd the paragraph but I do want ts bad enough who doesnt wanna be beautiful

My point was does your actions truly reflect that desire though

 

[thodian]

My point was does your actions truly reflect that desire though

Yea but most things wont do the same level as surgery so its AAS and pharmacology until the hardmax

 

[polarpop]

thats most people who know about LM lmao

 

[5may5five]

thats most people who know about LM lmao

Yeah true. I’m that way inclined as well, it’s a rough cycle to get out of

 

[Thief]

I don't like to put in effort, not worth it to me

 

[5may5five]

I don't like to put in effort, not worth it to me

Easy to say if you were born with a HMTN>= base

 

[Thief]

Easy to say if you were born with a HMTN>= base

Nothing about me is above average except my physique to be honest, and I guess my standard of living given I reside in America

But if I had to work hard for said physique, I wouldn't, I workout maybe once a week and take drugs to sustain whats left of me, if said drugs weren't inexpensive such that I was allotted detriment or strain for their acquisition I'd also stop doing that

Maybe I'm lying, I'd have to think too much to give a formal answer, and perhaps live a little longer

 

[5may5five]

Nothing about me is above average except my physique to be honest, and I guess my standard of living given I reside in America

But if I had to work hard for said physique, I wouldn't, I workout maybe once a week and take drugs to sustain whats left of me, if said drugs weren't inexpensive such that I was allotted detriment or strain for their acquisition I'd also stop doing that

Maybe I'm lying, I'd have to think too much to give a formal answer, and perhaps live a little longer

Just depends if you care about girls and social acceptance enough. If you’re already doing well in both those areas then yeah I can see where you’re coming from, I’d be the exact same

A lot of people on here love to claim if you’re LTN/MTN it’s over but it’s really not that hard what’s truly hard is finding a worthwhile and trustworthy girl

 

[Thief]

Just depends if you care about girls and social acceptance enough. If you’re already doing well in both those areas then yeah I can see where you’re coming from, I’d be the exact same

A lot of people on here love to claim if you’re LTN/MTN it’s over but it’s really not that hard what’s truly hard is finding a worthwhile and trustworthy girl

I understand my answer now, you're correct and you've caught me, thinking about it from that perspective I resigned a while ago, I went to highschool online for my last 3 years, skipped graduation, and I've not come into physical contact nor conversed with a woman in quite some time

All I was saying above is that I've given up on what you've mentioned, not necessarily that I am against effort

 

[5may5five]

I understand my answer now, you're correct and you've caught me, thinking about it from that perspective I resigned a while ago, I went to highschool online for my last 3 years, skipped graduation, and I've not come into physical contact nor conversed with a woman in quite some time

All I was saying above is that I've given up on what you've mentioned, not necessarily that I am against effort

Honestly I’m in your boat as well.

Spent my last year of high school online and since going to uni this last year my attendance was 15% and I made an effort to actually avoid socialising and thus made no friends.

It’s very weird when you really desire something but completely push it away, especially when there’s no rational reason to

 

[7nclave]

I’ve been thinking about it recently I’m sure for many people (but can only really speak for myself) that their mind is agonisingly full of depression over their current state and they wish for absolutely anything to be saved from it but their actions don’t necessarily reflect it.

It just feels like everyone (including myself) wants to ascend so desperately but are just chuds making minimal effort towards actually looksmaxxing and importantly moneymaxxing too (for surgeries and status ofc)

At least personally the way I constantly feel about myself day in day out I should be crazy productive and doing everything in my power to change but I simply don’t

nope i don’t want it

 

[5may5five]

nope i don’t want it

You don’t want to be attractive you mean?

 

[7nclave]

You don’t want to be attractive you mean?

of course i do but i don’t want it bad enough