Do you try to get into an LTR only for constant sex with a foid without feelings?

[Xangsane]

Title. A guy I know (he is a white normie, soy pheno) admits to wanting a relationship because that's the only way he can get constant sex from a woman who doesn't really have anything much to offer, as women often want proper day dates that lead to long-term relationships and many refuse to have sex outside of a relationship. Such women will also pressure the man to commit after sex. He also struggles on dating apps. He said as soon as he gets bored of that woman, he will dump her.

He has a girlfriend who is a MTB (he showed me her picture) but said he had no real feelings for her; he just uses her for constant sex once a month and doesn't really spend much on her. He sees her as an FWB, she sees him as a boyfriend.

I made a poll; you can also answer if you're single, with your ideal scenario.

 

[Lygodactylus]

I want the best of both worlds.

 

[Xangsane]

I want the best of both worlds.

What does this mean?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

women need to get better personalities

 

[Xangsane]

women need to get better personalities

Unironically this. I've got really high standards for personality traits and moral values MUCH more so than looks.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

I recently came to the realisation that casual sex will be an uphill battle for me until I get surgery, going MGTOW is cope when I can get barely laid as it is, so I’ve come full circle to needing an LTR for consistent sex.

 

[Lygodactylus]

What does this mean?

To have casual sex with the baddies and only after that have an LTR with wife material ( don't want to get married due to legal implications, but hopefully something for life). Essentially the exact same thing women do with chads and betabuxx normies

 

[thereallegend]

I struggle getting ONS/hookups, so I go the FWB/LTR route instead.

That's my reality.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

 

[Lygodactylus]

How does she look like

 

[Xangsane]

Which of these men mog the most? They all have something in common.

Guy A Guy B Guy C Guy D Guy E Guy F

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[Xangsane]

How does she look like

 

[Xangsane]

I recently came to the realisation that casual sex will be an uphill battle for me until I get surgery, going MGTOW is cope when I can get barely laid as it is, so I’ve come full circle to needing an LTR for consistent sex.

And you wouldn't really care much for the girl?

 

[Xangsane]

To have casual sex with the baddies and only after that have an LTR with wife material ( don't want to get married due to legal implications, but hopefully something for life). Essentially the exact same thing women do with chads and betabuxx normies

I hope my POV on relationships isn't viewed as cucked here. I'm very anti-casual sex and pro-love, pro-marriage.

 

[Xangsane]

I struggle getting ONS/hookups, so I go the FWB/LTR route instead.

That's my reality.

Yep, that's basically an FwB.
When that happens, do the foids pressure you into commitment?

 

[188centimetres]

I dont even want sex. I just want to have a stacy gf to brag with.

 

[Xangsane]

I dont even want sex. I just want to have a stacy gf to brag with.

With no love and care for her?

 

[188centimetres]

With no love and care for her?

Of course I want to love and care for her. But I would only want that with a stacy. Anything sub-stacylite simply disgusts me.

 

[thereallegend]

Yep, that's basically an FwB.
When that happens, do the foids pressure you into commitment?

Yes, they pressure me to commit and I have to use game/manipulation to keep it going.

 

[Xangsane]

Of course I want to love and care for her. But I would only want that with a stacy. Anything sub-stacylite simply disgusts me.

And your PSL is?

 

[LightSkinNoob]

And you wouldn't really care much for the girl?

We’ll I’m with her out of desperation so I’d try not get attached to avoid needless heartbreak once she leaves.

 

[188centimetres]

btw can you provide an example of a "soy pheno"

 

[Xangsane]

Yes, they pressure me to commit and I have to use game/manipulation to keep it going.

Yep, you sound just like that guy I described in the OP.

At the moment, how many women do you have on rotation and what do you intend to do with them afterwards?

 

[Xangsane]

btw can you provide an example of a "soy pheno"

 

[Xangsane]

We’ll I’m with her out of desperation so I’d try not get attached to avoid needless heartbreak once she leaves.

So in other words an FwB
Did she pressure you to commit?

 

[188centimetres]

And your PSL is?

People here gave me 5.5, if you want I can dm you pics

 

[Xangsane]

People here gave me 5.5, if you want I can dm you pics

Go on, DM me.

 

[LightSkinNoob]

So in other words an FwB
Did she pressure you to commit?

No as I’d have to leverage commitment for consistent sex, so we’d hang out sometimes and not have sex.

 

[Xangsane]

No as I’d have to leverage commitment for consistent sex, so we’d hang out sometimes and not have sex.

Including all the gifting and cute dates for her?
That to me just sounds like a sugar-coated FwB, which to be fair, most LTRs are these days as many men don't see the point in committing to a woman with nothing to offer.

 

[thereallegend]

Yep, you sound just like that guy I described in the OP.

At the moment, how many women do you have on rotation and what do you intend to do with them afterwards?

I have 2 women on rotation and I game them into giving intimacy/sex outside a LTR type commitment.

I'm not going to LTR femcel tier women.

 

[Deleted member 4430]

btw can you provide an example of a "soy pheno"

OP

 

[LightSkinNoob]

Including all the gifting and cute dates for her?
That to me just sounds like a sugar-coated FwB, which to be fair, most LTRs are these days as many men don't see the point in committing to a woman with nothing to offer.

I’ve never gotten a girl gifts, elaborate dates aren’t really my thing either, I’d use the LTR frame to get a girl just below my looks level and enjoy her for a couple months.

 

[Xangsane]

I have 2 women on rotation and I game them into giving intimacy/sex outside a LTR type commitment.

I'm not going to LTR femcel tier women.

What looks level are they?
What things do you tell them to get them to have sex outside commitment/LTR? Are these the types of women that only want an LTR?

I’ve never gotten a girl gifts, elaborate dates aren’t really my thing either, I’d use the LTR frame to get a girl just below my looks level and enjoy her for a couple months.

So basically in your mind it's an FWB and in her mind it's an LTR?

 

[LightSkinNoob]

What looks level are they?
What things do you tell them to get them to have sex outside commitment/LTR? Are these the types of women that only want an LTR?


So basically in your mind it's an FWB and in her mind it's an LTR?

Exactly

 

[Bonez]

as a high tier subhuman LTR is the only option for me to get constant sex

 

[Deleted member 17448]

If I found an excepcional woman I wouldn't have any problems in LTRing her. If not, 2-4 fuckbuddies which I can do some plans with it's good. ONS get boring after a while, but the power trip of fucking a new woman never gets old.

 

[Xangsane]

Exactly

I know a few cases like this where the woman wants an LTR but in the guy's mind it's an FwB. Super common tactic to get a woman to have sex with no commitment.

 

[Xangsane]

as a high tier subhuman LTR is the only option for me to get constant sex

Is it because the women you're after only want LTRs?

 

[Xangsane]

If I found an excepcional woman I wouldn't have any problems in LTRing her. If not, 2-4 fuckbuddies it's good. ONS get boring after a while, but the power trip of fucking a new woman never gets old.

I did a Bumble experiment of a top-tier exceptional woman (low tier Stacylite with a 0 body count, personality and ecucationmaxxed) and even CHADS were willing to want to take her seriously:

[UPDATE ON JIMENAFISH BUMBLE EXPERIMENT] Does anyone have any images of average-looking white foids I can use for a Bumble experiment?

TO ALL FDS LURKERS: SWALLOW THE JIMENAPILL I'd like to get some images of an average-looking white foid I can use for a Bumble experiment. The aim for this experiment is to see if she'd match with as many Chadlites and Chads as Jimena (my HQNPmaxxed educationmaxxed Stacylite foidfish), and if...

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[Deleted member 15674]

Title. A guy I know (he is a white normie, soy pheno) admits to wanting a relationship because that's the only way he can get constant sex from a woman who doesn't really have anything much to offer, as women often want proper day dates that lead to long-term relationships and many refuse to have sex outside of a relationship. Such women will also pressure the man to commit after sex. He also struggles on dating apps. He said as soon as he gets bored of that woman, he will dump her.

He has a girlfriend who is a MTB (he showed me her picture) but said he had no real feelings for her; he just uses her for constant sex once a month and doesn't really spend much on her. He sees her as an FWB, she sees him as a boyfriend.

I made a poll; you can also answer if you're single, with your ideal scenario.

I've gone MGTOW for now.

 

[Bonez]

Is it because the women you're after only want LTRs?

no it's because the womens that are looking for hookups doesn't want me

 

[Bonez]

I did a Bumble experiment of a top-tier exceptional woman (low tier Stacylite with a 0 body count, personality and ecucationmaxxed) and even CHADS were willing to want to take her seriously:

[UPDATE ON JIMENAFISH BUMBLE EXPERIMENT] Does anyone have any images of average-looking white foids I can use for a Bumble experiment?

TO ALL FDS LURKERS: SWALLOW THE JIMENAPILL I'd like to get some images of an average-looking white foid I can use for a Bumble experiment. The aim for this experiment is to see if she'd match with as many Chadlites and Chads as Jimena (my HQNPmaxxed educationmaxxed Stacylite foidfish), and if...

looksmax.org

post pics of chads

 

[Xangsane]

no it's because the womens that are looking for hookups doesn't want me

They want Chad, no?

 

[Xangsane]

post pics of chads

I'll DM you them, then I'll post them on a new thread.

 

[Deleted member 17448]

I did a Bumble experiment of a top-tier exceptional woman (low tier Stacylite with a 0 body count, personality and ecucationmaxxed) and even CHADS were willing to want to take her seriously:

[UPDATE ON JIMENAFISH BUMBLE EXPERIMENT] Does anyone have any images of average-looking white foids I can use for a Bumble experiment?

TO ALL FDS LURKERS: SWALLOW THE JIMENAPILL I'd like to get some images of an average-looking white foid I can use for a Bumble experiment. The aim for this experiment is to see if she'd match with as many Chadlites and Chads as Jimena (my HQNPmaxxed educationmaxxed Stacylite foidfish), and if...

looksmax.org

The thing is that for a LTR even if she is HTB I would gladly commit of she has excepcional values and intelligent, or at least she's open minded to learn what I want. Crazy Stacy is a big no no for LTR.

 

[Xangsane]

I've gone MGTOW for now.

MGTOW = celibate, and not pursuing hookups with women on Hinge
You sure this applies to you?

 

[Xangsane]

The thing is that for a LTR even if she is HTB I would gladly commit of she has excepcional values and intelligent, or at least she's open minded to learn what I want. Crazy Stacy is a big no no for LTR.

Yep - this is exactly what my foidfish Jimena is like. Many top tier Chads were down on their feet and taken aback with her on my experiment.

 

[Deleted member 15674]

MGTOW = celibate, and not pursuing hookups with women on Hinge
You sure this applies to you?

Yeah 100%, I deleted my account on all dating apps and am not going to chase girls for a year until I improve and finish my goals

 

[Deleted member 17531]

All i want to do is fuck and have a good time
i dont care about feelings or nun of that shit, LTR is not ideal but i'll use a girl for sex

 

[Xangsane]

Yeah 100%, I deleted my account on all dating apps and am not going to chase girls for a year until I improve and finish my goals

That's a good idea; avoids heartbreak while making yourself a better man.