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2 mm isnt bad at all
ccw rotation is debatable tbh
I use big texts for roasts not for arguements lol
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2 mm isnt bad at all
ccw rotation is debatable tbh
I use big texts for roasts not for arguements lol
Ya vid made just on this thread working on editing it rnWOW YOU EXPOSED ME BIG TIME NELSON
IM USING A BIG FONT RN ARE U MAD BRO?
HOW ARE U STILL ALIVE AFTER THAT BRUTAL MOG BY DOCTORS TBH
lolYa vid made just on this thread working on editing it rn
It's a pretty cool vid man ur gonna laughlol
ok
no hard feelings for me tbh you can be mad at me i dont care
loolIt's a pretty cool vid man ur gonna laugh

bc 90% of the posters itt are retards, this is whats meant by ccw rotation and positive 'downward' growth
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ppl w improperly grown faces and typically high cb angles have deficiencies at the posterior maxilla and [sometimes] excess growth of the anterior maxilla. when ppl talk abt double jaw surgery and rotations, patients without gummy smiles have bone added to the back of the palate via posterior downgrafting, making the occlusal plane and hence gonial angle less steep (mandible autorotation). thats whats described in the case simulation from moons study.
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i dont think theres a way to compress the anterior maxilla (significantly) w any appliance and surgeries in that realm are very limited too sadly
Anterior maxilla- midfaceI'm a dumb fuck could you translate this into simple words pls bhai ?
NoCan HGH lengthen midface and jaw bones? Aka make your face look more developed?
It doesnt if u have open plates maybeWhy not. Doesn’t HGH grow everything
Hgh grows unfused bones in high doses along with organs and heart you take high doses recklessly you’re gona dieWhy not. Doesn’t HGH grow everything
No Hgh is supposed to be used to heal injures and by some bodybuilders that mix it with other shit to promote muscle growthDoes it make cheekbones less sharp, more rounded
So should u not mew or place emphasis on the front of the palate. Thanks.that thread that i think u are referring too was pretty solid on exercises, but most of it having all the attached muscles stretched upwards through proper facial development along w good oral posture. ive never seen anyone w a subpar hyoid position that has those criteria fulfilled.
also in that study u linked, look at the mean age of the subjects (74). the routines could be more significant bc they have more aging related muscle atrophy.
placing pressure upwards on the posterior maxilla (which is what they mean by the back 1/3rd) wouldn't encourage remodelling of the bone in a new ccw-displaced position
like a "might as well..." bonus,they even say it
dont get mse for more forward growth even with facepull
you need surgery for that
get mse if u have a narrow palate and you can try facepulling