DOCTORS TALK ABOUT NELSON'S/RETARD'S FACEPULLER JFL! GTFIH (THEY LAUGH)

[goat2x]

i dont get the crazy emphasis that ppl on tgw or reddit have abt the posterior tongue either, if anything, it would encourage remodelling/growth in the wrong direction (they prob fail to realize). although having that 'suction' hold would tighten the submental more and over time, move the hyoid upwards.

wdym by remodellling the wrong direction

 

[curryslayerordeath]

Do you know of anything else non surgical that can be done to move the hyoid bone upwards?

I've found this study in this forum about exercises to move the hyoid upwards and the results seemed pretty legit.

that thread that i think u are referring too was pretty solid on exercises, but most of it having all the attached muscles stretched upwards through proper facial development along w good oral posture. ive never seen anyone w a subpar hyoid position that has those criteria fulfilled.

also in that study u linked, look at the mean age of the subjects (74). the routines could be more significant bc they have more aging related muscle atrophy.

wdym by remodellling the wrong direction

placing pressure upwards on the posterior maxilla (which is what they mean by the back 1/3rd) wouldn't encourage remodelling of the bone in a new ccw-displaced position

 

[goat2x]

that thread that i think u are referring too was pretty solid on exercises, but most of it having all the attached muscles stretched upwards through proper facial development along w good oral posture. ive never seen anyone w a subpar hyoid position that has those criteria fulfilled.


placing pressure upwards on the posterior maxilla (which is what they mean by the back 1/3rd) wouldn't encourage remodelling of the bone in a new ccw-displaced position

tbh i dont think it would do anything lol

 

[Enfant terrible]

good thread

 

[WeWillAllAscend]

they even say it
dont get mse for more forward growth even with facepull
you need surgery for that
get mse if u have a narrow palate and you can try facepulling

That’s only if your done growing if your in puberty even late puberty assuming you haven’t been eating soy your whole life then everything should be open and you could probably get good foward growth. I’d like a 15-16 year old it they could expect good forward growth

 

[goat2x]

That’s only if your done growing if your in puberty even late puberty assuming you haven’t been eating soy your whole life then everything should be open and you could probably get good foward growth. I’d like a 15-16 year old it they could expect good forward growth

meh ok
16 is really the end lol

 

[Luke LLL]

2 mm isnt bad at all
ccw rotation is debatable tbh

I use big texts for roasts not for arguements lol

 

[goat2x]

WOW YOU EXPOSED ME BIG TIME NELSON
IM USING A BIG FONT RN ARE U MAD BRO?
HOW ARE U STILL ALIVE AFTER THAT BRUTAL MOG BY DOCTORS TBH

 

[Luke LLL]

WOW YOU EXPOSED ME BIG TIME NELSON
IM USING A BIG FONT RN ARE U MAD BRO?
HOW ARE U STILL ALIVE AFTER THAT BRUTAL MOG BY DOCTORS TBH

Ya vid made just on this thread working on editing it rn

 

[goat2x]

Ya vid made just on this thread working on editing it rn

lol
ok
no hard feelings for me tbh you can be mad at me i dont care

 

[Luke LLL]

lol
ok
no hard feelings for me tbh you can be mad at me i dont care

It's a pretty cool vid man ur gonna laugh

 

[goat2x]

It's a pretty cool vid man ur gonna laugh

lool
tell me when its uploaded

 

[Bromose]

Lol my guy goat2x got proven as a contradicting peanut brain barker , I think his career ended his last reply on me was a panic reply jfl

 

[reptiles]

bc 90% of the posters itt are retards, this is whats meant by ccw rotation and positive 'downward' growth
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ppl w improperly grown faces and typically high cb angles have deficiencies at the posterior maxilla and [sometimes] excess growth of the anterior maxilla. when ppl talk abt double jaw surgery and rotations, patients without gummy smiles have bone added to the back of the palate via posterior downgrafting, making the occlusal plane and hence gonial angle less steep (mandible autorotation). thats whats described in the case simulation from moons study.

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i dont think theres a way to compress the anterior maxilla (significantly) w any appliance and surgeries in that realm are very limited too sadly

I'm a dumb fuck could you translate this into simple words pls bhai ?

 

[Deleted member 5385]

I'm a dumb fuck could you translate this into simple words pls bhai ?

Anterior maxilla- midface
i dont think theres a way to compress the anterior maxilla (significantly) w any appliance and surgeries in that realm are very limited too sadly= i don't think you can shorten midface with good results with surgery or appliance.

 

[000]

I think changes can happen with time and hgh. If you can get 1-2 mm, you can get 10 mm. The sutures won't close if you keep facemaskmaxxing.
Now we are sure that 2 mm can happen. I'm happy tbh.
None of the patients used hgh nor used the facemask for a whole year.

Can HGH lengthen midface and jaw bones? Aka make your face look more developed?

 

[goat2x]

Can HGH lengthen midface and jaw bones? Aka make your face look more developed?

No

 

[000]

No

Why not. Doesn’t HGH grow everything

 

[goat2x]

Why not. Doesn’t HGH grow everything

It doesnt if u have open plates maybe

 

[Deleted member 6789]

This whole forum is being laughed at by doctors
Teens tying to non surgically beat genetics are clowns confirmed

 

[Deleted member 6789]

Why not. Doesn’t HGH grow everything

Hgh grows unfused bones in high doses along with organs and heart you take high doses recklessly you’re gona die

 

[000]

Hgh grows unfused bones in high doses along with organs and heart you take high doses recklessly you’re gona die

Does it make cheekbones less sharp, more rounded

 

[Deleted member 6789]

Does it make cheekbones less sharp, more rounded

No Hgh is supposed to be used to heal injures and by some bodybuilders that mix it with other shit to promote muscle growth

No one uses it to grow facial bones you’re better off spending that money in surgery to get a more controlled outcome

unless u wana risk looking like this

 

[RichardwillImprove]

that thread that i think u are referring too was pretty solid on exercises, but most of it having all the attached muscles stretched upwards through proper facial development along w good oral posture. ive never seen anyone w a subpar hyoid position that has those criteria fulfilled.

also in that study u linked, look at the mean age of the subjects (74). the routines could be more significant bc they have more aging related muscle atrophy.


placing pressure upwards on the posterior maxilla (which is what they mean by the back 1/3rd) wouldn't encourage remodelling of the bone in a new ccw-displaced position

So should u not mew or place emphasis on the front of the palate. Thanks.

 

[Deleted member 8758]

It's

they even say it
dont get mse for more forward growth even with facepull
you need surgery for that
get mse if u have a narrow palate and you can try facepulling

like a "might as well..." bonus,