does bi maxillary protrusion get fixed with extractions and braces

[Deleted member 29690]

I had a meeting with an ortho not too long ago who said I have bi maxillary protrusion which I already assumed I had because I have bean obsessing over my teeth and face for a while. It makes my mid face and philthrum look long af and is the cause for my mentalis strain that makes my chin look ugly af. The rest of my face is fine but I just get absolutely fucked by my lower third because of my bi maxillary protrusion.

the ortho said I need four extractions with braces to fix it but after some independent research I found a bunch of ugly ass mf saying there face got obliterated by the treatment. the main problem apparently is that the mid face gets sunken in because of the retraction of the teath from braces and you end up looking like an old man. but doesn't this only occur because your mid face is already in a good position but then you ruin it by retracting. for example in the pic below this dumb bitch did no research before getting extractions and got fucked with a sunken in face

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you can see that she went from having a nice mid face that is in proportion with the rest of her face, to a sunken witch looking hoe. but what happens if your mid face is already too forward wont braces just make your mid face move to where it should ideally be. For example this image.

this is what my side profile looks like when I have my mouth closed I have realized when I open my mouth my side profile becomes way better because the teeth aren't fucking everything up. I want to achieve something like this is it possible or is this picture just some fraudulent ortho cgi bullshit. if this isn't possible is there another way to fix this.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

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[Deleted member 20631]

Bimaxillary protrusion isn’t a big falio if it’s moderate.

If your jaw is recessed fix that first, extracting 4 teeth will fuck your face up

 

[VenatorLuparius]

Bimaxillary protrusion isn’t a big falio if it’s moderate.

If your jaw is recessed fix that first, extracting 4 teeth will fuck your face up

I'm black and I have bimax protrusion by default but after seeing so much horror stories with teeth extraction I decided that genio was the best solution to balance things out.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

I'm black and I have bimax protrusion by default but after seeing so much horror stories with teeth extraction I decided that genio was the best solution to balance things out.

Mogger traits:

-Flared, angular gonions -Concave philtrum due to strong anterior nasal spine and incisor proclination (causes protruding mouth area and insane definition effect when lean) -Prominent upper maxilla If you don’t have at least one of these just LDAR

looksmax.org

Extractions are horrible and a protruding mouth area is good as long as you’re lean and not boneless

 

[Deleted member 29690]

I'm black and I have bimax protrusion by default but after seeing so much horror stories with teeth extraction I decided that genio was the best solution to balance things out.

never seen a horror story fo bimax protrusion with extractions

 

[User49]

Mogger traits:

-Flared, angular gonions -Concave philtrum due to strong anterior nasal spine and incisor proclination (causes protruding mouth area and insane definition effect when lean) -Prominent upper maxilla If you don’t have at least one of these just LDAR

looksmax.org

Extractions are horrible and a protruding mouth area is good as long as you’re lean and not boneless

Proof protruding mouth is good or is that thread ur source

 

[Deleted member 29690]

Bimaxillary protrusion isn’t a big falio if it’s moderate.

If your jaw is recessed fix that first, extracting 4 teeth will fuck your face up

my jaw isn't reccesed. what will happen if i extract.

 

[Deleted member 20631]

Proof protruding mouth is good or is that thread ur source

Read the thread.

And protruding mouth isn’t good as a stand-alone feature, the rest of your face has to be forward grown or you’ll look chimpmaxxed.

 

[User49]

Read the thread.

And protruding mouth isn’t good as a stand-alone feature, the rest of your face has to be forward grown or you’ll look chimpmaxxed.

he just said it’s good

literally no proof of it at all

how can a protruding alveolar be good

@Dr. Bruh thoughts?

makes no sense for it to be ideal

 

[Deleted member 21044]

he just said it’s good

literally no proof of it at all

how can a protruding alveolar be good

@Dr. Bruh thoughts?

makes no sense for it to be ideal

Ofc alveolar prognathism isn't good what's the point of this.

 

[User49]

Ofc alveolar prognathism isn't good what's the point of this.

Idk why ppl just invent their own ideals tbh

 

[Deleted member 29690]

alveolar prognathisms

should i get 4 extractions

 

[Deleted member 21044]

should i get 4 extractions

No jfl.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

explain

No jfl.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

explain

It will atrophy your maxilla/mandible.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

It will atrophy your maxilla/mandible.

isnt that the point so i can move the maxilla back also how will the mandible be affected.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

isnt that the point so i can move the maxilla back also how will the mandible be affected.

Why the fuck would you want to move your maxilla back jfl @julianchicago look at this retard.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

Why the fuck would you want to move your maxilla back jfl @julianchicago look at this retard.

so i can go from left to right

 

[Magnum Opus]

Why the fuck would you want to move your maxilla back jfl @julianchicago look at this retard.

He needs to get the spaces between his teeth shaved to make some room for tooth retrusion, or he advances his jaws somehow to also make space for retruding the teeth inwards.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

thank you for giving real advice

He needs to get the spaces between his teeth shaved to make some room for tooth retrusion, or he advances his jaws somehow to also make space for retruding the teeth inwards.

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

He needs to get the spaces between his teeth shaved to make some room for tooth retrusion, or he advances his jaws somehow to also make space for retruding the teeth inwards.

I agree I think he has too proclined teeth not protruding alveolar bone if he isn t black, making the teeth inward will loose the lip support both up and down and will get a more neutral look.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

He needs to get the spaces between his teeth shaved to make some room for tooth retrusion, or he advances his jaws somehow to also make space for retruding the teeth inwards.

No any kind of teeth reduction will be detrimental to looks. @pay to slay you need to recess only your alveola which is done by palatal expansion.

 

[Magnum Opus]

No any kind of teeth reduction will be detrimental to looks.

Depends on how his maxilla looks, just retruding the lower teeth won't have much impact on the whole maxilla. If the upper maxilla is flat and not advanced it will look way worse after retruding the teeth in though.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

im black

 

[Deleted member 21044]

Depends on how his maxilla looks, just retruding the lower teeth won't have much impact on the whole maxilla. If the upper maxilla is flat and now advanced it will look way worse after retruding the teeth in though.

I'm talking about upper teeth.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

so i can go from left to right

Also these two have the same maxilla left just has angled incisors it seems.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

im black over for me

I agree I think he has too proclined teeth not protruding alveolar bone if he isn t black, making the teeth inward will loose the lip support both up and down and will get a more neutral look.

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

im black

U got the answer mate.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

U got the answer mate.

time to rope

 

[HalfGypsyMogger]

time to rope

Post a pic to see how serious ur problem is.

 

[Deleted member 21044]

time to rope

You can be a black chad. Pheno is never the problem.

 

[Deleted member 29690]

Post a pic to see how serious ur problem is.

just dox yourself theory

 

[Deleted member 29690]

ye ik i was joking tyrones mog the hardest in my opinion

You can be a black chad. Pheno is never the problem.

 

[Skry]

Bimaxillary protrusion isn’t a big falio if it’s moderate.

If your jaw is recessed fix that first, extracting 4 teeth will fuck your face up

Im stuck on this cuz if you have bimaxillary protrusion (significant) then u do realize that if u fix a recessed jaw with lf1/bsso all that will happen, is your teeth will be pushed out even further more, and the mouth/chin position ratio stays the same but in even worse position, until you do genio ofc. I dont know what to do, Ramieri tells me to remove teeth on bottom to make room for bimax/bsso. But extractions are fked

 

[jamesjohnsmith1959]

for africans mild bimaxillary protrusion can be a good thing if it's balanced out. for asians it's not viewed favorably.

 

[Alexanderr]

He needs to get the spaces between his teeth shaved to make some room for tooth retrusion, or he advances his jaws somehow to also make space for retruding the teeth inwards.

The former might be what this surgeon did