Does experience beat IQ?

[Jason Voorhees]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@mcmentalonthemic @imontheloose

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Banned User @lnceIs @Sprinkles @childishkillah

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@topology @sub5outsider @SoundnVision @BigBallsLarry

 

[Banned User]

Ye cause would u rather have a local rice farmer show you the way through vietnam jungles or your roided out non commissioned officer who has a paper map.

 

[incelincel]

Yeah

 

[foidletslayer]

Knowledge annd experience are intertwined and they go hand to hand with IQ, but IQ can give you both knowledge and experience. Therefore IQmogs

A man that knows one hundred truths by relying on external deduction is infinitely less intelligent than a man who found out 1 truth by relying on his own reasoning and deduction

 

[sub5outsider]

People with high iq will easily adapt to any situation

 

[kdz777]

ofc it does not alot of situations when i would choose some1 with higher iq than experience

 

[mcmentalonthemic]

newspaper puzzle makers get extremely high iq on iq tests after years of working even if they got average iq before they started making puzzles

 

[Nathan Fielder]

That’s a good question

 

[dmerhmyt]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

that isnt really a valid example

 

[tyquese]

in some cases i would say yes, in this case obv because hes been basically studying the same topic for 8 years so that gives him the benefits. also not to mention isnt iq not 100% gonna show how intelligent someone is? ive read a few threads and articles saying that iq tests mainly are memory based but idk

 

[Daddy's Home]

Only short term, long term no

 

[foidletslayer]

People with high iq will easily adapt to any situation

No

 

[optimisticzoomer]

IQ is a meme
This is water in 2026

 

[Glorious King]

GOOD ONE

THIS IS WHAT @inversions THINKS HE IS

 

[dhusc]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

if a dudes memorised the answers I guess

 

[Glorious King]

IQ is a meme
This is water in 2026

I WAS EXPECTING SOME VOICE NOTE OR SOME VID OF U DOING SOME CRAZY SHI

 

[Jason Voorhees]

that isnt really a valid example

why?

 

[Jason Voorhees]

if a dudes memorised the answers I guess

No the prof has crystalline intelligence which is a a lot more powerful than fluid Intelligence of the student

 

[dhusc]

No the prof has crystalline intelligence which is a a lot more powerful than fluid Intelligence of the student

which in some sense is just memorisation no?

I’m assuming in this scenario they took the same exact test multiple times

 

[LXR]

IQ determines how high your ceiling can be while experience is the ceiling. If you had a choice between grooming someone in your team, you should bet on a person with high aptitude. If you want to solve something right here right now, someone with the most experience is mostly better.

 

[kyslord]

have you not watched K Shami’s IQ guide on youtube?

 

[dhusc]

IQ is determines how high your ceiling can be while experience is the ceiling. If you had a choice between grooming someone in your team, you should bet on a person with high aptitude. If you want to solvw something right here right now, someone with the most experience is mostly better.

high iq answer

 

[dmerhmyt]

why?

the experience difference is too much, the professor has been seeing these types/level exams for 8 years.

+ im not sure of the validity of the experiment if you heard it on reddit

 

[Jason Voorhees]

which in some sense is just memorisation no?

I’m assuming in this scenario they took the same exact test multiple times

No different test every single time and crystalline intelligence is sort of like memorization but at a much higher level than rote memorization.

 

[dhusc]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

I mean technically yes but what do you mean time?

how long is this time

im sure the higher iq student could grasp the same concept faster if given adequate time

 

[Saint Casanova]

How big was the IQ gap ? I’m assuming the professor still had a pretty high IQ.

 

[Scandicel]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

yeah experience beats iq, but the person with higher iq would get to the professors level in shorter time than he did if he were to study like him

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@aids

 

[aids]

IQ is determines how high your ceiling can be while experience is the ceiling. If you had a choice between grooming someone in your team, you should bet on a person with high aptitude. If you want to solve something right here right now, someone with the most experience is mostly better.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

I thought you'd give some super elaborate answer since you were so passionately arguing with that greycel yesterday

 

[JordanFagget271]

this doesnt correlate with real life
its a limited space, where professor knows everything
to recreate iq vs experience in an experiment u would need infinite solutions to every problem where teacher has seen more solutions, if u understand
cuz this way it cant play out any differently, teacher does it without thinking probably, like a machine

this whole experiment is very similar to a man against machine, no?

 

[LukaKhang]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

No
You can train all hard you can but you won't compete with a top 1% genetic

 

[Jason Voorhees]

No
You can train all hard you can but you won't compete with a top 1% genetic

Why the top 1% genetic lost then?

 

[LukaKhang]

Why the top 1% genetic lost then?

The professor had 8 years of daily, focused work on exactly that kind of math. He wasn't guessing or cramming cus he had seen the patterns, shortcuts, common traps, and efficient ways to solve problems hundreds of times.
The student, even with higher IQ, was still relatively new. High IQ helps you learn faster, but it doesn't replace thousands of hours of real application. He could understand the concepts, but he didn't have the automatic fluency the professor had.
at the end, the professor had more time than him but if the student get the same level as experience then the professor won't have a match

it is like
Genetics = a lambo
Experience = years of driving, racing, and knowing every road.

 

[Jimcel]

IQ is so overestimated by this forum, in most situations experience decimates iq, no doubt

 

[Jason Voorhees]

@Ghost Philosophy since you are a prof also

 

[imontheloose]

@mcmentalonthemic @imontheloose

Depends on the subject and how big the difference is. Experience could very well beat a 10 IQ difference I suppose, but that’s only in the sense that one knows what he’s doing already whilst the other must logically reason it. If the latter reasons it quick enough, he’ll outperform the former.

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Depends on the subject and how big the difference is. Experience could very well beat a 10 IQ difference I suppose, but that’s only in the sense that one knows what he’s doing already whilst the other must logically reason it. If the latter reasons it quick enough, he’ll outperform the former.

What about crystalline and fluid iq and why specially 10 IQ why not more or less?

 

[GynoGladiator]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

So basically a comparison of fluid vs crystallized intellegience, I think if you have high fluid intellegience you're able to develop crystallized intellegience faster and to a better degree. However, no matter how superior your fluid intellegience is, you will not be able to beat a grandmaster at chess with only some experience.

 

[imontheloose]

What about crystalline and fluid iq and why specially 10 IQ why not more or less?

Fluid and crystallised is what we are talking about here. 10 IQ is just a random throwaway guess I made, there’s no reason it can’t be 9 or 11 of course. Say some X greater IQ could be defeated in speed by crystallised IQ. That doesn’t mean it’s better or worse, per se. The fluid IQ allows rapid learning hence my prior comment that it’s dependant on how quick he can reason the lack of experience

 

[Marlon67Zeta]

Depends on what kind of experience

 

[Jason Voorhees]

Fluid and crystallised is what we are talking about here. 10 IQ is just a random throwaway guess I made, there’s no reason it can’t be 9 or 11 of course. Say some X greater IQ could be defeated in speed by crystallised IQ. That doesn’t mean it’s better or worse, per se. The fluid IQ allows rapid learning hence my prior comment that it’s dependant on how quick he can reason the lack of experience

It was hypotheses in a study about experts in something follow completely different cognition pathways. . While the student relies on fluid intelligence to deduce every step, the professor uses crystallized intelligence to skip the reasoning part entirely through pattern recognition. And crystalline is proven to be much stronger

 

[Jason Voorhees]

So basically a comparison of fluid vs crystallized intellegience, I think if you have high fluid intellegience you're able to develop crystallized intellegience faster and to a better degree. However, no matter how superior your fluid intellegience is, you will not be able to beat a grandmaster at chess with only some experience.

It was hypotheses in a study about experts in something follow completely different cognition pathways. . While the student relies on fluid intelligence to deduce every step, the professor uses crystallized intelligence to skip the reasoning part entirely through pattern recognition. And crystalline is proven to be much stronger

 

[imontheloose]

It was hypotheses in a study about experts in something follow completely different cognition pathways. . While the student relies on fluid intelligence to deduce every step, the professor uses crystallized intelligence to skip the reasoning part entirely through pattern recognition. And crystalline is proven to be much stronger

Well yes, but this only works if the problem is hard enough and the student’s fluid intelligence isn’t good enough to reason it quick enough. It’s also not longitudinal, once you’ve learnt it, you have now gained some of that crystallised intelligence.

Crystallised can be learnt and fluid can’t, fluid is your natural born ability.

 

[Seven]

talent vs hardwork type shi
depends tbh

 

[topology]

There was experiment I read about from a reddit user they let a student who was high IQ. Don't remember the exact number took a college level math test against a math professor who was tested to be lower IQ but with 8 years of experience. The professor beat the high IQ student every single time even if the student was given time to prepare and understand the concepts. The professor finished the test in 3/4th time and almost always got a perfect score.

Experience almost always beats IQ, yes. The only edge case I can think of is trying to prove/find the undiscovered/unknown (i.e. proving a^n + b^n = c^n). IQ will likely beat out experience there as it requires very unintuitive/creative solutions which IQ may assist in.