Does god exist? (Gtfih Religiouscels)

can you describe the conditions of hell?
also why is all loving god sending you to eternal damnation for non eternal sinning :feelsrope:
Read the qur’an u will find everything there bhai
 
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theres no argument its just faith dumb nigger also evil has to exist for free will to exist
Couldn't an all powerful God make a world where there's both free will and non existent Evil?
 
Read the qur’an u will find everything there bhai
im paki niga my family is mewslim
also you couldve just given the answer yourself bruh, you know full well im not reading it just to figure this out
 
I don’t see why would be true
Why would there be a need for religion if everything was perfect in the first place. In the beginning according to the bible adam and Eve were alone and everything was fine until they sinned and Jesus came down to tell them. Evil entered the world and belief in God became a top priority and it still is. The lack of faith is why this world continues to descend.
But god is more complex than the world yet didn’t have a creator so why can’t something less complex than god exist without a creator
God created the world so idk what this statement is really poking at. And also, you answered your own question your sentence. The world is less complex and at the point where human beings can understand much about the world but not everything. The whole point here is that God is eternal in the first place and he can see the beginning and the end of times. He created this world and every little detailed. In this world despite how much chaos it may seem there is, it nothing compared to the chaos of other galaxies and planets and even the fight between Satan and us believing behind the scenes. Satans whole goal is to make us believe he and God don't exist.
What determines if something is “too complex”
Our world is specifically designed to be able to sustain life, no other world as far as we have seen has been able to do it let alone as well. It's a perfect design but a design that can be destroyed as the world is doing to itself right now.
Not rlly it’s only if you have neurotypical understanding of morality but this can be better explained by evolutionary values
Explain how evolution gave us morals. Just to get us on level here, do you believe that humans evolved from apes? (yet the apes still exist). In Christianity we believe animals adapt or die out, they don't evolve.
Natural selection. If we didn’t care about morals we wouldn’t be able to function as a social species
That doesn't answer who gave us morals. Natural selection didn't just 'hand over' morals to people. "If we didn't care about morals" is dodging the answer I just gave you. Of course this is true, that's why God gave us morals and a general sense of right and wrong. Of course this can be tainted by the sin put on this world, but the sense is general.
 
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Yes, but not in the way religiouscels imagine
 
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Couldn't an all powerful God make a world where there's both free will and non existent Evil?
Free will requires the extent evil, and without evil in this world, how would one ever care to believe in God if the world stayed perfect from the very beginning.
 
theres too much tragedy in this world for there to be a god
 
Does god exist and if so why?
also what is your answer to the problem of evil.

Provide arguments don’t just beg the question
I feel like the epstine files and pizza gate confirm Christianity

And the answer for evil is that it isn’t gods fault he gave us free well it’s the pepole doing the evil
 
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Lmao what’s the reason it’s “too good” for there not to be a creator
the circumstances and all the many many things that go into even just humans. we are so complex and smart its weird to think about

i could deadass go on for days about things the earth has that are special to earth and keep us alive
 
No, religion largely exists to answer the three great unknowns: What happens before birth, what is the purpose of life, and what happens after death. A primordial, omnipotent creator is a very easy answer to all three. From a Christian view: You come from him, you live to serve him, and you're reunitied with him in heaven. It has always been a cope for the great unknowns. Most people are too weak to live for themselves.

Obviously, I'm not speaking with total certainty. I'm a baptised catholic, and I truly hope that there is a God. But, in this current moment, my faith is weak.
 
Couldn't an all powerful God make a world where there's both free will and non existent Evil?
that world just contradicts itself? if you couldnt be evil then you couldnt be free willed
 
Then god didn’t exist before he created evil or he didn’t have free will himself
he is all eternal he was there before and will be here after the world ends. he is beyond our human free will
 
that world just contradicts itself? if you couldnt be evil then you couldnt be free willed
Couldn't an all powerful God make a world where that wouldn't be a contradiction? Since he supposedly created logic itself
 
Free will requires the extent evil, and without evil in this world, how would one ever care to believe in God if the world stayed perfect from the very beginning.
Couldn't an all powerful God make a world where that wouldn't be a contradiction? Since he supposedly created logic itself
This goes for you as well
 
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God isnt real and neither is evil. Thier just concepts we've made up to cope with life ever since we stopped being tribal. Even before we only believed in God to explain at the time unexplainable shit.
 
so who created god
overused bad argument Since one of the attributes of god is being the most powerful one true god, if he has a creator that attribute fall instantly, so even if he had a god he wouldn’t be a god so god can’t have a creator cuz HE IS the creator
 
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Does god exist and if so why?
also what is your answer to the problem of evil.

Provide arguments don’t just beg the question
no, religion programs you into believing based off of faith and not evidence
 
Couldn't an all powerful God make a world where that wouldn't be a contradiction? Since he supposedly created logic itself
yeah thats basically what heaven is? a place where you have no desire to do evil acts. the free will earth part is to save you and determine your faith
 
Death is evil.
Why automatically assume death is tragic and terrifying? How can something you've never experienced be evil to you? The most reasonable afterlife theory is essentially that nothing happens. We experience nothing -- almost like a deep slumber. If that is true, why fear rest? I'm not religious, but I believe death is the greatest reward in a life full of suffering.
 
Yes he does exist, because everything has a necessary beginning. Everything finite at least. God is infinite, therefore he has no beginning unlike the rest of creation.

What exactly do u mean by the problem of evil?
 
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yeah thats basically what heaven is? a place where you have no desire to do evil acts. the free will earth part is to save you and determine your faith
Why not on earth? And why would he create some people if he already knew they'll go to hell since he's all knowing
 
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This goes for you as well
Maybe he could but that's why we're not him. Our thoughts are bound to this world and we can't possibly understand God himself to a full extent in truth. But that's why heaven exists as The place you're talking about. The only reason this world is like it is, is because of Satan and the fact that God wants us to choose whether we want to believe or not and not give everyone the completely free pass except the signs are all around us.
 
Why not on earth? And why would he create some people if he already knew they'll go to hell since he's all knowing
Answered this first question on my last answer. As for the all knowing part, think of it this way. God sits in front of a timeline where he can look at any point of it whenever he wants to. He can skip into the future and he go back to the past from our current standpoint right now. He doesn't have to see everything but he can if he wants to in a sense. These two videos explain it better then I would.

 
Why not on earth? And why would he create some people if he already knew they'll go to hell since he's all knowing
because its a test of faith and humans were created to steward the Earth, bring glory to God, and experience companionship with their Creator. also while God knows that you're going to heaven or hell, it is generally believed that He does not force this fate, but rather possesses perfect foreknowledge of the choices humans will freely make
 
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Why automatically assume death is tragic and terrifying? How can something you've never experienced be evil to you? The most reasonable afterlife theory is essentially that nothing happens. We experience nothing -- almost like a deep slumber. If that is true, why fear rest? I'm not religious, but I believe death is the greatest reward in a life full of suffering.
I'm not an atheist. You give me this statement as if I do believe that but I in fact don't. I don't believe in deep sleep because in sleep nothing happens. It's like instantly wake up once you drift off. When you die it wouldn't make sense to really be like rest because you would never wake.
 
overused bad argument Since one of the attributes of god is being the most powerful one true god, if he has a creator that attribute fall instantly, so even if he had a god he wouldn’t be a god so god can’t have a creator cuz HE IS the creator
okay so if i write a book about how i’m the best person in the world and everyone should worship me that automatically makes it true?
 
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okay so if i write a book about how i’m the best person in the world and everyone should worship me that automatically makes it true?
But how does this relate to your original question? Assuming ur giving other question, it can be confirmed weather the book is true or false simply by reviewing the “authors” and their authenticity that’s the main first step, who is he? Where is he from? From example in Islam the prophet for his 40 years of his living was known as Al sadiq Al ameen(the trustworthy) it would make 0 sense for him to break that streak when he was already complimented about his trustworthiness, matter of fact he was given the choice to be the king of his people in return for him to stop spreading the message he said even if you bring the sun on my right hand or left hand I won’t stop this message till god by his will take my life, so that’s the first step, second step, look at the book thoroughly, was it tempered with? If so is it retrieved?, is the book historically correct? There’s lots of more but it’ll be a very long message
 
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