does height and muscles matter or not?

hm?

  • muscles matter

    Votes: 3 6.5%
  • height matters

    Votes: 10 21.7%
  • both matters

    Votes: 30 65.2%
  • both irrelevant

    Votes: 3 6.5%

  • Total voters
    46
Dates are hard bro. Its 50/50 i swear. Either the girl is just super turned on by me and want to fuck no matter what or else i have to play chess with her, saying the right thing at the right time, being funny etc. I’m starting to get better but each time i don’t get laid off a date i put it on my looks lacking and it kills my confidence.
Yeah I know, it crushes you on a genetic level when the date doesn’t go the way you wanted it too. It won’t be easy and you will get sad afterwards if it things go bad it’s only natural. you won’t be able to learn from the mistakes and come out a better man if you won’t keep trying. I used to be very self critical and would just assume if things don’t exactly go the way I wanted to there was something terribly wrong.

Remember one thing, if the girl went out on a date with you and is willing to talk she doesn’t have an issue with your looks.

Also not every date should go well. Sometimes there is a lack of connection and two people just don’t like each other and that’s fine. Stop faking things and just look for a genuine connection because one women is all you need in your life.
 
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Stop faking things and just look for a genuine connection because one women is all you need in your life.
Honestly yes i feel lonely but few women match my standards for ltr.
Remember one thing, if the girl went out on a date with you and is willing to talk she doesn’t have an issue with your looks.
I have ocd its very hard to think like this. I always send dozens of unfrauded aspie videos in worst angles to be sure she will be fine with me and when date doesnt go sexual i used to do all the mistakes as in asking her if she is attracted to me. They always say yes but to me they were lying. I just feel like i may look subhuman irl. Yet i got laid with hot girls so it doesnt make sense idk maybe they were into subhumans.
My best friend says girls in my age age - early 20s - have lots of expectations more than looks and dating is super conventionnal and since im not super smart socially and am just myself it doesnt always work out and its not looks related. But i wish it was the truth. If it was i would stop obscessing over looks. Rn i won’t give up until i become a proper irl chad, which i have the potential realistically but it is so tiring everyday…
 
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show bro im curious but hard to believe ethnics do that well
Nah. Streege looks very good and has an iranid pheno like some light skinned turks.

You heightmog him hard though as you are like half a foot taller. IRL, I honestly think you two would have similar appeal. Height halo is pretty underrated on here.
 
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both irrelevant (for me anyways, since joining MGTOW)
 
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Nah. Streege looks very good and has an iranid pheno like some light skinned turks.

You heightmog him hard though as you are like half a foot taller. IRL, I honestly think you two would have similar appeal. Height halo is pretty underrated on here.
Im like 6ft frauding 6ft2 tho w a great frame
 
Honestly yes i feel lonely but few women match my standards for ltr.

I have ocd its very hard to think like this. I always send dozens of unfrauded aspie videos in worst angles to be sure she will be fine with me and when date doesnt go sexual i used to do all the mistakes as in asking her if she is attracted to me. They always say yes but to me they were lying. I just feel like i may look subhuman irl. Yet i got laid with hot girls so it doesnt make sense idk maybe they were into subhumans.
My best friend says girls in my age age - early 20s - have lots of expectations more than looks and dating is super conventionnal and since im not super smart socially and am just myself it doesnt always work out and its not looks related. But i wish it was the truth. If it was i would stop obscessing over looks. Rn i won’t give up until i become a proper irl chad, which i have the potential realistically but it is so tiring everyday…
WanUnfitAsianporcupine.webp
STREEGE
 
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You said you were 5'10" though? How did you grow 2 inches in your 20s?
Where did i said so ? I don’t know exactly about the us metric when i write 5feet 9 it gives like 180cm in my tab. So in euro metrics with good posture im 182 cm at night - tested at doc. And wear 3 inch fraud
 
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Its brutal i know. Yet im prolly the least frauded decent looking guy here. Ocd is a hoe
always remember the reaction you got IRL by ppl you met random girls etc. i don't have this problem because i know girls find me attractive irl even though my selfies are angle maxxed lighting maxxed expression maxxed
 
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always remember the reaction you got IRL by ppl you met random girls etc. i don't have this problem because i know girls find me attractive irl even though my selfies are angle maxxed lighting maxxed expression maxxed
Yes. Then im chad jfl. I get stares, smile, giggles every time i go out. And every date that didnt leaded to sex - 3 in more than 40 - the girl stayed 2-3 hours talking about her and shit, just why? Leave
 
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And no i didnt had sex with 40 i prevented them just to be sure i was attractive. I know im aspie but not degen
@the BULL
 
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Yes. Then im chad jfl. I get stares, smile, giggles every time i go out. And every date that didnt leaded to sex - 3 in more than 40 - the girl stayed 2-3 hours talking about her and shit, just why? Leave
didn't you reject them all?? idk bro maybe you're a good listener. from the pics you look chad so if you have a proper skull you'll be chad irl too
 
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didn't you reject them all?? idk bro maybe you're a good listener. from the pics you look chad so if you have a proper skull you'll be chad irl too
I never saw ANYGUY and i swear to god bone mass mogging me and im still far from lean. Many times i wanted to shave my bones. Videos and pics dont do me good. Yes i did jfl i said i was sick or i had a meeting
While they were trying to make out.
 
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I never saw ANYGUY and i swear to god bone mass mogging me and im still far from lean. Many times i wanted to shave my bones. Videos and pics dont do me good. Yes i did jfl i said i was sick or i had a meeting
While they were trying to make out.
you're one of the top moggers i don't doubt it. just too much of a lion for girls
 
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you're one of the top moggers i don't doubt it. just too much of a lion for girls
Im just too kind and wholesome. Girls always expect me to be dom and toxic. Got told many times i hit different irl due to personnality. But muh personnality is cope
 
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Height and Muscles combined can net you 1 pt of increase SMV. Let's say you're a 5/10 4PSL normalfag. With good height and muscles you can become 6/10 5PSL HTN. Face is always the most important since that's your base value before factoring in everything else.
You have a perspective as opposed to the retards who act like being tall will make girls swarm you.
 
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Nah. Streege looks very good and has an iranid pheno like some light skinned turks.

You heightmog him hard though as you are like half a foot taller. IRL, I honestly think you two would have similar appeal. Height halo is pretty underrated on here.
yea hes chad although im not sure if he used some pic altering software tbh. need video to see
 
Honestly yes i feel lonely but few women match my standards for ltr.

I have ocd its very hard to think like this. I always send dozens of unfrauded aspie videos in worst angles to be sure she will be fine with me and when date doesnt go sexual i used to do all the mistakes as in asking her if she is attracted to me. They always say yes but to me they were lying. I just feel like i may look subhuman irl. Yet i got laid with hot girls so it doesnt make sense idk maybe they were into subhumans.
My best friend says girls in my age age - early 20s - have lots of expectations more than looks and dating is super conventionnal and since im not super smart socially and am just myself it doesnt always work out and its not looks related. But i wish it was the truth. If it was i would stop obscessing over looks. Rn i won’t give up until i become a proper irl chad, which i have the potential realistically but it is so tiring everyday…
But it is the truth. You think being a Chad will fix all your problems and you will compensate for your lack of social skills? You are thinking wrong. At best you will end up like Amnesia and go from one women to another while still feeling empty.
 
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no, just face and butt matters
 

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