Does Mse Actualy Ascend?

[LoLoyi]

I have seen alot of examples of someone actualy not gaining anything from mse, one guy on tiktok showed x raw of his skull before and after mse and it only expanded his airways and made his nasal bone wider. And also you have to wear braces bc you get a hole in your front teeth, so does the braces actualy make your face even worse? I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

 

[lazza]

I have seen alot of examples of someone actualy not gaining anything from mse, one guy on tiktok showed x raw of his skull before and after mse and it only expanded his airways and made his nasal bone wider. And also you have to wear braces bc you get a hole in your front teeth, so does the braces actualy make your face even worse? I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

Should get you some cheeckbones Gaines if you don't go for the surgical option called SARPE

Also it usually done before a double jaw surgery so you might do it as well if you want more complete results

 

[LoLoyi]

Should get you some cheeckbones Gaines if you don't go for the surgical option called SARPE

Also it usually done before a double jaw surgery so you might do it as well if you want more complete results

I didnt know that, thanks. But lets say if i get a mse, would braces make me more recessed?

 

[slaters]

I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

If u have this u need mse nogga

 

[snakemaster77]

no

 

[somalie]

try to get a facemask with the mse, then it basically becomes a lefort 2

 

[browncurrycel]

No

 

[PubertyMaxxer]

no

 

[cortisolspike]

I have seen alot of examples of someone actualy not gaining anything from mse, one guy on tiktok showed x raw of his skull before and after mse and it only expanded his airways and made his nasal bone wider. And also you have to wear braces bc you get a hole in your front teeth, so does the braces actualy make your face even worse? I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

if your cheekbones arent promiment and your fwhr is cooked id recommend getting it, but costs crazy amount of money with braces

 

[lazza]

I didnt know that, thanks. But lets say if i get a mse, would braces make me more recessed?

If you have a recession what dentist (not a doctor btw) do is recess one of your jaws, either the upper or lower, with the use of braces

This way your teeth are aligned, but you will end up being recessed

So this thing that they do will not actually fix the source of your problems which is an under developed jaw

This can only be fixed with a osteotomy procedure like double j surgery

So if you do: palate expander + braces + double jaw. You will get the best results possible and a guaranteed ascension since botch risks are extremely low

You can also add custom implants if you really wa.t to mog but those are never covered by insurance, and sinc ethey need to be custom down to the plates and screws you are definitely going to spend serious money on those

 

[Randon]

I have seen alot of examples of someone actualy not gaining anything from mse, one guy on tiktok showed x raw of his skull before and after mse and it only expanded his airways and made his nasal bone wider. And also you have to wear braces bc you get a hole in your front teeth, so does the braces actualy make your face even worse? I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

double jaw surgery

 

[Deleted member 30845]

No, and it can make you look worse.

MSE is a looksmin. Thumbpulling doesn't work.

MSE won't just grow the bones some users project it would, the only logical use case is fixing palate deformities. If you don't have that problem, stay away from MSE and other palate expanders. There are multiple downsides to MSE. Letting your nose get wider significantly and becoming...

looksmax.org

 

[kingofkings]

You want fme or custom marpe to reduce the asymmetry risk.

A large expansion will widen your lip posture at rest, widen your nose and will increase the lateral width of your zygos (which is often not that noticeable as it's a small amount). How good this looks varies a lot but to stack the odds in your favour you need to do everything possible to minimize developing asymmetry because the effects can be devastating.

 

[NoaA99]

It usually gets worse. I have done it.
Don’t do it for aesthetics.

 

[LoLoyi]

If you have a recession what dentist (not a doctor btw) do is recess one of your jaws, either the upper or lower, with the use of braces

This way your teeth are aligned, but you will end up being recessed

So this thing that they do will not actually fix the source of your problems which is an under developed jaw

This can only be fixed with a osteotomy procedure like double j surgery

So if you do: palate expander + braces + double jaw. You will get the best results possible and a guaranteed ascension since botch risks are extremely low

You can also add custom implants if you really wa.t to mog but those are never covered by insurance, and sinc ethey need to be custom down to the plates and screws you are definitely going to spend serious money on those

Thanks bro mirin

 

[optimisticzoomer]

try to get a facemask with the mse, then it basically becomes a lefort 2

If it actually worked

 

[Aryan Incel]

Depends but usually no

 

[zaebalsya]

If it actually worked

Result from mse and facemask, free leforte 3

:feelsautistic:

looksmax.org

aint it work?

 

[LoLoyi]

It usually gets worse. I have done it.
Don’t do it for aesthetics.

But i have a narrow palate, my tounge doesnt fit at all, and i have smile lines because of my narrow pallate

 

[NoaA99]

But i have a narrow palate, my tounge doesnt fit at all, and i have smile lines because of my narrow pallate

If you actually have one, it makes sense. If not, definitely avoid it.
I was fairly good-looking (at least I had somewhat decent success) before, and became totally invisible after.
The nose became more asymmetric and extremely wide, and I have a completely asymmetric bite now- my midline-deviation got even more exaggerated.

The initial cheekbone prominence vanishes after swelling goes down, and soft tissue adapts.
Partial relapse is also well possible.

If you have an extremely narrow face, and serious issues with nose breathing, do it.
I had only the later, but actually a mild SFS, which became even more obvious, as the maxilla expanded laterally.

Always have a follow-up-bimax in mind to partially reverse the asymmetry. I am a class 3 patient, and hopefully surgery will correct some of these issues.

 

[arian-persian]

I have seen alot of examples of someone actualy not gaining anything from mse, one guy on tiktok showed x raw of his skull before and after mse and it only expanded his airways and made his nasal bone wider. And also you have to wear braces bc you get a hole in your front teeth, so does the braces actualy make your face even worse? I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

It depends how old you are. But if ur failo is a narrow palate it would definetly ascend you

 

[LoLoyi]

If you actually have one, it makes sense. If not, definitely avoid it.
I was fairly good-looking (at least I had somewhat decent success) before, and became totally invisible after.
The nose became more asymmetric and extremely wide, and I have a completely asymmetric bite now- my midline-deviation got even more exaggerated.

The initial cheekbone prominence vanishes after swelling goes down, and soft tissue adapts.
Partial relapse is also well possible.

If you have an extremely narrow face, and serious issues with nose breathing, do it.
I had only the later, but actually a mild SFS, which became even more obvious, as the maxilla expanded laterally.

Always have a follow-up-bimax in mind to partially reverse the asymmetry. I am a class 3 patient, and hopefully surgery will correct some of these issues.

Well did you have a narow pallate yourself? And maybe asymmetry hapend because they didnt make a custom one for you?
So you are having a bimax because of it?

 

[NoaA99]

Well did you have a narow pallate yourself? And maybe asymmetry hapend because they didnt make a custom one for you?
So you are having a bimax because of it?

My upper jaw/palate was significantly narrower in relation to my lower jaw/palate, yes.
I used to have mild sleep apnea as well.

No, asymmetry was always a possibility. Remember, I was already 23. at that time. Did it in 2021- so, I was fairly early.
Usually, the forces on each side differ, so there’s potential, that one side responds more easily.

No, Bimax is a must regardless, to correct the class 3 occlusion, midline-discrepancy, SFS, and also prevent further TMJ cartilage resorption.

 

[gigacumster3000]

nah that's cope

 

[LoLoyi]

My upper jaw/palate was significantly narrower in relation to my lower jaw/palate, yes.
I used to have mild sleep apnea as well.

No, asymmetry was always a possibility. Remember, I was already 23. at that time. Did it in 2021- so, I was fairly early.
Usually, the forces on each side differ, so there’s potential, that one side responds more easily.

No, Bimax is a must regardless, to correct the class 3 occlusion, midline-discrepancy, SFS, and also prevent further TMJ cartilage resorption.

Where are you having your bimax? I saw one clinic in spain instituto maxilofacial and so far i think its a good option for me, but im still researching

 

[vvd]

I have seen alot of examples of someone actualy not gaining anything from mse, one guy on tiktok showed x raw of his skull before and after mse and it only expanded his airways and made his nasal bone wider. And also you have to wear braces bc you get a hole in your front teeth, so does the braces actualy make your face even worse? I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

no

 

[Molotongo]

I have seen alot of examples of someone actualy not gaining anything from mse, one guy on tiktok showed x raw of his skull before and after mse and it only expanded his airways and made his nasal bone wider. And also you have to wear braces bc you get a hole in your front teeth, so does the braces actualy make your face even worse? I have a really narrow pallate and crowding teeth idk what should i do.

OkOk but why is the underdeveloped jfl your Avi?

 

[LoLoyi]

OkOk but why is the underdeveloped jfl your Avi?

idk lol first that i saw when i was putting my pfp