Also wider alar width is something I've seen in MSE patients.
can you pm me I got things to discuss with you.
Exactly, MSE shouldn't be treated as a cosmetic surgery tbh.
yeah I think of it as something that I really need because of functionality, I have all the qualities that would make me a mouthbreather but i am not one i still struggle to breathe if I need some large quantity of air thats why I wont treat it as something cosmetic I still want to get bimax done because I am recessed thats why I was asking bout it
the african chick really fucked up her nose.
lens distorted as fuk
Yes, it's insane honestly.
yes and the nasal cavity isn't the body of the nose, not denying her nose widened but you can't compare a pic which looks 40cm away from 2m away
. I’m truly laughing at these before and afters
do you not notice anything on your own skull?
Mse might honestly be the biggest gaslight in orthodontics. Turning normal Caucasian passing skulls into ethnic skulls
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wdym by that? they don't show when I smile and they are healthy. (slightly shows if I smile hard)
I have x ray and can send my teeth give me 5 mins
None of them ascended. In fact the first picture where he smiles looks kinda uncanny cuz the smile is too wide. Fuck I really am not sure about MSE and if it's a good procedure..
That was my exact point.
One user recommended me to do MSE. But I am not pretty sure I dont wanna risk this lmao. Ascension truly is about fixing failos and not trying to generate halos. Cuz fuckups will happen
Yea lol, trying to recontruct your face willl almost never work.
For anyone wondering the answer, I have small teeth JFL.
NIGGA HOLD TF UP werent u saying u ascended HARD from MSE. From the paranasal gains to the zygosMse might honestly be the biggest gaslight in orthodontics. Turning normal Caucasian passing skulls into ethnic skulls
OZSO or ZSO depending on what you need.
The issue with MSE is it widens EVERYTHING, and most people have gained alar width + asymmetry.
Good enough improve facial muscle activation+maxillary position already improves this.
Idk bro
At my age this is a good thing. Total cranium expansion and that fact it can disrupt sutures is huge for forward growth maxila gains
Look at her parnasal area and eye area
This is my point, it's another surgery you will ned to get. Due to another surgery.
True.
I mean, if you have nothing to lose go for it, but OZSO does the same thing and doesn't increase alar width.
Yes, just like any surgery. Since your main point for getting MSE is for cheekbone gains, I suggest you look into OZSO or ZSO.
Back to the drawing board then i'll have to do more research. These are legitmate concerns
Back to the drawing board then i'll have to do more research. These are legitmate concerns
last thing i need is a wider flatter nose , god help me at that point
if i could do mse+rhino+orthondotics+distraction osteogenis on jaw +lighter eyes=
Define moon face, are u confusing this with diamond fae? cheekbones wider than face?
Indeed bro
MSE didnt do all that to you nor to most people ive seen lmao
what would you do if you want your cheekbones to be wider and come more forward?
Define moon face, are u confusing this with diamond fae? cheekbones wider than face?
The Weston Price dudes were incredibly robust and androgenic, everything was wide. I actually thought they were moggers, they just dont fit eurocentric beauty standards.
Indeed bro
When i chew maxx, my temporalis gets a good pump around my zygos, so much dopamine.
MSE didnt do all that to you nor to most people ive seen lmao
Only the nose widening but in some patients it isnt even that pronounced. Most were already ethnic and then got expansion.
Zygo implants are easily botched
True bones>>implants
I'd recommend looking into a distraction osteo for zygos in asia/middle east
Really? to what extent does it effect the nasolobial?
Use a photo bro
Idk man
MSE doesnt do this lmfao nigga
