Does mse widen the temples?

[Deleted member 15977]

It seems like it

 

[xefo]

nice result

 

[Deleted member 15977]

Bump

 

[Acromegaly_Chad]

No.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

nice result

Is MSE ideal for small expansion (only a few mm) or could it have more potential negatives than positives?

 

[uranio]

No, it makes your cheekbones more prominent laterally and this will make your skull appear wider and taller as you can see from the before and after

 

[xefo]

Is MSE ideal for small expansion (only a few mm) or could it have more potential negatives than positives?

as in like a 4mm device?

MSE always benefits imo

 

[Deleted member 15977]

No, it makes your cheekbones more prominent laterally and this will make your skull appear wider and taller as you can see from the before and after

What i meant is that his forehead looks like it grew also

 

[uranio]

What i meant is that his forehead looks like it grew also

It didn’t. I had MSE and it is just an illusion created by more prominent zygos

 

[JustDoIt]

Maybe it gives that impression because by fixing your bite you also fix muscle imbalances, which can make the temporalis muscle bigger I guess if it was lacking.

 

[datboijj]

i thought i was balding but then i realized my forehead is just wider
thank you mike mew

 

[Agendum]

I had mee and can confirm it does NOT widen temples. The Med phenotype should take this into consideration.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

as in like a 4mm device?

MSE always benefits imo

I need like 1-1.5 mm on each side. So like 2-3 mm total. Is it even worth it with MSE? Don't want my midface to be disproportionately wide.

 

[Deleted member 7725]

I had mee and can confirm it does NOT widen temples. The Med phenotype should take this into consideration.

What cosmetic changes did you notice?

 

[xefo]

I need like 1-1.5 mm on each side. So like 2-3 mm total. Is it even worth it with MSE? Don't want my midface to be disproportionately wide.

are you sure you need that little?

just got for an 8mm MSE prolly it won’t expand your midface much

 

[Deleted member 7725]

are you sure you need that little?

just got for an 8mm MSE prolly it won’t expand your midface much

Not sure. My upper jaw is only a tiny bit smaller than my lower so definitely don't need more than like 4mm total. I'd assume the changes from MSE aren't enough to really fuck your proportions up though in that amount.

 

[xefo]

Not sure. My upper jaw is only a tiny bit smaller than my lower so definitely don't need more than like 4mm total. I'd assume the changes from MSE aren't enough to really fuck your proportions up though in that amount.

the posterior bizygo doesn't increase with MSE anyway

 

[Agendum]

What cosmetic changes did you notice?

My right maxilla dropped a few mm due to maxillary can't butslighly wider zygos but my narrow temples mares this contrast even worse in certain lighting conditions.

 

[Chinlet Ascension]

Probably.

I think the ideal aesthetic result would be to widen the maxilla but not the temple.

 

[Agendum]

What cosmetic changes did you notice

It's hard to tell since I only got 8mm (Ortho said my lower IMW is the limiting factor) but the extra space in my mouth for tongue allows for a tiny bit of a vacuum affecting soft tissues. A itty bitty boost in facial definition from the new position of the zygo-process.

Problem is that I have tall and downgrown midface so I can't get the most out of the benefits of soft tissue support. Best bet is to debloat with "sucking cheeks in" to get the most value out if MSE asthetics.

I learned that CCW rotation and vertical position of the midface matter more than width for soft tissues. Width is a meme imo

 

[Deleted member 15977]

It's hard to tell since I only got 8mm (Ortho said my lower IMW is the limiting factor) but the extra space in my mouth for tongue allows for a tiny bit of a vacuum affecting soft tissues. A itty bitty boost in facial definition from the new position of the zygo-process.

Problem is that I have tall and downgrown midface so I can't get the most out of the benefits of soft tissue support. Best bet is to debloat with "sucking cheeks in" to get the most value out if MSE asthetics.

I learned that CCW rotation and vertical position of the midface matter more than width for soft tissues. Width is a meme imo

Bro width matters a lot. same person jfl

 

[Deleted member 7725]

Bro width matters a lot. same person jfl

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First pic is a bad angle. Look at his ramus and maxilla.

 

[Cristiano88]

It didn’t. I had MSE and it is just an illusion created by more prominent zygos

Can you post or dm your before and after please?

 

[LebenistneHure]

It's hard to tell since I only got 8mm (Ortho said my lower IMW is the limiting factor) but the extra space in my mouth for tongue allows for a tiny bit of a vacuum affecting soft tissues. A itty bitty boost in facial definition from the new position of the zygo-process.

Problem is that I have tall and downgrown midface so I can't get the most out of the benefits of soft tissue support. Best bet is to debloat with "sucking cheeks in" to get the most value out if MSE asthetics.

I learned that CCW rotation and vertical position of the midface matter more than width for soft tissues. Width is a meme imo

Do you think lack of maxillary support can also cause droopy nostrils, like a nose that almost sags? Not to mention a long philtrum and a saggy upper lip.

 

[Agendum]

Do you think lack of maxillary support can also cause droopy nostrils, like a nose that almost sags? Not to mention a long philtrum and a saggy upper lip.

I think droopy nostrils (ala of nose) and philtrum is from vertical lengthening of the maxilla and aveolar bone. This is caused by lack of width during development. The vertical lengthing also becomes downgrown too. Im considering impaction but I dont think it will solve the problem.