Does test close growth place dependent of estrogen High iqs only

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I was wondering if high levels of androgens directly close the growth plates independent of estrogen. I have decided I am permanently going to be on TRT. My current starting cycle:
1 mg Arimidex ED
230 mg Test E every week
Sub-Q injection using a 30-gauge needle
Also, another question: can you keep the same vial for more than 3 months while being sterile?
I might add some other compounds later on. I do not want to add too much stuff for now because, A) it is expensive, and B) it is my first cycle.
I am 15.
Bone age 13.8.
I am currently 175 cm.
How much height do you think I would gain in the first months? I might add HGH later on. Anyways, please, anyone who replies in this thread, do not just type nonsense; type high-IQ responses. Any suggestions on how to make everything better? Maybe I can add stuff in the future. Thanks.
:Hm Im skinny asf too i wanna gain some muscle and broader my shoulders and no im not using tren i wanna live thanks everyone any replies would be appreicated and would help me in my dating life

 
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no, high e2 does, as far as I know. Low e2 also fucks with your growth since estrogen is essential for healthy bone growth. On a cycle, do regular bloodwork and try to keep e2 between 20 and 80 pmol; use either primo with test in a 1:1 ratio and adjust, or 6.25mg ed aromasin. PM me I can help make a better cycle for u
 
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if you’re that concerned about it then don’t go above 200mg a week to keep your e2 levels low while still having high test
 
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no, high e2 does, as far as I know. Low e2 also fucks with your growth since estrogen is essential for healthy bone growth. On a cycle, do regular bloodwork and try to keep e2 between 20 and 80 pmol; use either primo with test in a 1:1 ratio and adjust, or 6.25mg ed aromasin. PM me I can help make a better cycle for u
Most primo on market is shit But thanks for the advice Do you mind typing it in here my dms arent wokign aslo i aromatse alot
 
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Most primo on market is shit But thanks for the advice Do you mind typing it in here my dms arent wokign aslo i aromatse alot
here's the next cycle im running in about a month (also, if you can find a plug who lab tests his shit then you will have access to pure primo, which is super rare and expensive but worth it imo). If u have a specific budget lmk and I can send smth else bc this whole stack is around £1200 ($1600).

-test e: 300mg ew; potential increase to 400 if e2 low after week 4 (will use test p in this eventuality for faster action (Monday and Thursday)
-primo: 300mg ew
-tbol 30 finisher (weeks 6-12; start with 20 to assess tolerance 6-8, then increase)
-RU58841 for primo and tbol potential hair loss
-(GLOW stack peps (GHK-Cu, BPC157, TB-500, 2.8mg ed, w1-4, then 2.8mg 5 days w4-8, then 3x ew,)
-GHK-Cu: 2% topical serum BetTar, 2x daily
-MT-2: dosage tbd, short-term only w tanning

-hcg 250 2x weekly
-isotretinoin, 10mg ed (prescribed), increase to 20-30 if needed
-finasteride 1mg (prescribed), replace with dut if needed (for potential test-related hair loss only)
-telmisartan 20-40mg and HCTZ 12.5mg ed
-ezetimibe 10mg ed
-aromasin in-case e2 is too high in any of the bloods
-TUDCA and NAC (500mg and 1200mg respectively) weeks 6-12
-viagra 100mg (use 50 before needed/not pre-workout)

PCT: (continue hcg ed for 2 weeks; start others 3 weeks after last T injection)
-nolvadex 20mg ed 4 weeks
 
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Bum
here's the next cycle im running in about a month (also, if you can find a plug who lab tests his shit then you will have access to pure primo, which is super rare and expensive but worth it imo). If u have a specific budget lmk and I can send smth else bc this whole stack is around £1200 ($1600).

-test e: 300mg ew; potential increase to 400 if e2 low after week 4 (will use test p in this eventuality for faster action (Monday and Thursday)
-primo: 300mg ew
-tbol 30 finisher (weeks 6-12; start with 20 to assess tolerance 6-8, then increase)
-RU58841 for primo and tbol potential hair loss
-(GLOW stack peps (GHK-Cu, BPC157, TB-500, 2.8mg ed, w1-4, then 2.8mg 5 days w4-8, then 3x ew,)
-GHK-Cu: 2% topical serum BetTar, 2x daily
-MT-2: dosage tbd, short-term only w tanning

-hcg 250 2x weekly
-isotretinoin, 10mg ed (prescribed), increase to 20-30 if needed
-finasteride 1mg (prescribed), replace with dut if needed (for potential test-related hair loss only)
-telmisartan 20-40mg and HCTZ 12.5mg ed
-ezetimibe 10mg ed
-aromasin in-case e2 is too high in any of the bloods
-TUDCA and NAC (500mg and 1200mg respectively) weeks 6-12
-viagra 100mg (use 50 before needed/not pre-workout)

PCT: (continue hcg ed for 2 weeks; start others 3 weeks after last T injection)
-nolvadex 20mg ed 4 weeks
Thats way too much androgens my plates gonna close in 15
 
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Thats way too much androgens my plates gonna close in 15
its not about the androgens bro its about the e2
but yea if budget is an issue your current stack is great, use 6.25mg of aromasin instead of arimidex. don't do subq with 30 gauge btw draw with 21 gauge and pin with 25 gauge otherwise you may form lumps there's no reason to be afraid of IM
 

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