Does the post made a year ago titled "Best countries for Geomaxxing" still hold up for average White Men looking to travel to Eastern Europe?

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So, I've been out of the loop lately, but I went onto my bookmarked pages and came across this saved post titled Best countries for Geomaxxing. In it, orangomango2003 lists Russia and Ukraine as A-Tier.

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Does his post still hold up one year later for white men who aren't Chads and Chad-lites?

On a side note: Both Belarus and Moldova are noticeable not on the list. Presumably, because he hadn't traveled to them yet. I also made a post based on my own research based on what Grok AI found for me titled Grok AI helped me find the proper majority white countries to Geomaxx in!

To summarize, it basically said that Ukraine, Belarus, Moldova, and Russia as well as Kazakhstan are countries where average (5-6/10) White Men can still get with highly attractive (7-9/10) White Women, aka, Geomaxxing because those countries aren't so media-saturated and the exposure to Anglo Media (Hollywood and American/British Mass Media in general) isn't so ubiquitous. Fun fact: Scientific studies have shown that constant exposure to Mass Media (Hollywood + Instagram + Tinder) increases/amplifies women's preferences for male facial attractiveness.

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Has This Phenomenon spread to Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, Belarus, and Ethnic Russian Majority Parts of Kazakhstan?

To assess whether the Anglosphere’s beauty-based dating hierarchy has spread to these regions, we need to consider their cultural, historical, and socioeconomic contexts, as well as the influence of globalization and Western media. Below is an analysis for each region, with a focus on shared post-Soviet characteristics and regional differences.General Post-Soviet Context.


Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, Belarus, and the ethnic Russian majority areas of Kazakhstan share a post-Soviet legacy that shapes their social and romantic dynamics:
  • Soviet Legacy: The Soviet era emphasized collectivism, economic equality (in theory), and pragmatic partnerships over superficial traits. Physical attractiveness was less central to mate selection, as marriages were often influenced by practical considerations like housing, job stability, or family alliances.
  • Economic Transition: The collapse of the Soviet Union introduced market economies, consumerism, and exposure to Western ideals. This shift brought new pressures to conform to global beauty standards, particularly in urban areas.
  • Gender Dynamics: Post-Soviet societies often maintain traditional gender roles, where men are valued for provision and women for domesticity and appearance. However, economic instability has empowered women to prioritize financial security over looks in partners, moderating the focus on physical attractiveness compared to the Anglosphere.
  • Globalization: Western media, social media, and dating apps have penetrated these regions, especially among younger generations, introducing Anglosphere-like beauty standards but with varying degrees of adoption.
Ukraine
  • Status: The phenomenon has partially spread, particularly in urban centers like Kyiv, Lviv, and Odesa.
  • Evidence:
    • Ukraine’s integration with Western Europe, accelerated by the 2014 Euromaidan and ongoing cultural shifts, has increased exposure to Anglosphere beauty standards. Social media platforms like Instagram are popular, and influencers promote Western-style aesthetics (e.g., fitness, fashion).
    • Online dating apps like Tinder are used in cities, where physical attractiveness plays a significant role in initial matches, mirroring Anglosphere trends. However, rural areas and older generations retain more traditional criteria, valuing stability and family compatibility.
    • Economic challenges and the ongoing war (as of 2025) prioritize pragmatic mate selection for many, diluting the focus on looks compared to the Anglosphere. Women often seek partners who can offer security, while men may prioritize loyalty over beauty.
  • Cultural Nuance:
    • Ukrainian culture places a premium on women’s appearance, with a stereotype of Ukrainian women as exceptionally beautiful. This creates pressure for women to maintain attractiveness, but men’s looks are less scrutinized, unlike the Anglosphere’s balanced pressure across genders.
    • The hierarchy exists but is tempered by practical considerations and a cultural preference for long-term relationships over casual dating.
Moldova
  • Status: The phenomenon is emerging but less pronounced than in Ukraine.
  • Evidence:
    • Moldova, one of Europe’s poorest countries, remains more traditional and rural, with mate selection often tied to family approval and economic stability. Physical attractiveness is secondary for many, especially outside Chișinău.
    • Urban youth, influenced by Western media and migration to Europe, are adopting beauty-focused dating norms. Social media and dating apps are less widespread but growing, introducing hierarchies based on looks among younger demographics.
    • Economic migration means many Moldovans encounter Western dating cultures abroad, bringing back elements of the beauty hierarchy to urban areas.
  • Cultural Nuance:
    • Moldova’s conservative Orthodox Christian values emphasize family and modesty, which can counteract the superficial focus on looks. However, globalization is slowly shifting urban attitudes toward Anglosphere-like standards.
Russia
  • Status: The phenomenon is evident in urban centers (Moscow, St. Petersburg) but less pervasive nationally.
  • Evidence:
    • Russia’s major cities are highly globalized, with widespread use of Instagram, VKontakte, and dating apps like Badoo and Mamba. Urban youth increasingly prioritize physical attractiveness, influenced by Western media and Russian influencers who emulate Anglosphere aesthetics.
    • Studies suggest Russian women face significant pressure to maintain appearance, aligning with a cultural expectation of femininity. Men, however, are often judged more on status and resources, creating an asymmetric hierarchy compared to the Anglosphere’s gender-balanced focus on looks.
    • Rural Russia and smaller cities retain traditional values, where practicality (e.g., shared hardships, family ties) outweighs beauty. Economic inequality drives many women to seek partners with financial stability, diluting the emphasis on physical attractiveness.
  • Cultural Nuance:
    • Russia’s geopolitical isolation (e.g., sanctions, limited Western media access by 2025) slows the adoption of Anglosphere trends, but domestic media and social platforms still promote beauty ideals.
    • The hierarchy exists in pockets but is less dominant due to cultural pride in traditional values and skepticism of Western individualism.
Belarus
  • Status: The phenomenon is minimal but growing among urban youth.
  • Evidence:
    • Belarus remains more insulated from Western influence due to its authoritarian government and limited cultural exchange. State-controlled media downplays Western beauty standards, but social media (accessible despite restrictions) introduces them to younger generations.
    • Dating apps are less common, and mate selection often occurs through social networks or family connections, prioritizing compatibility and stability over looks.
    • Urban areas like Minsk show signs of a beauty hierarchy among the young, driven by exposure to Russian and Western influencers via platforms like Telegram and Instagram.
  • Cultural Nuance:
    • Belarusian culture emphasizes modesty and collectivism, which tempers the focus on physical attractiveness. Economic stagnation reinforces pragmatic partner choices, limiting the spread of the Anglosphere’s hierarchy.
Ethnic Russian Majority Parts of Kazakhstan (e.g., Northern and Eastern Regions)
  • Status: The phenomenon is present in urban areas but moderated by local dynamics.
  • Evidence:
    • Ethnic Russians in Kazakhstan’s northern and eastern cities (e.g., Almaty, Nur-Sultan, Pavlodar) are influenced by Russian media and global trends, adopting beauty-focused dating norms similar to urban Russia. Social media and dating apps are popular among younger populations.
    • Kazakhstan’s multiethnic society blends Russian, Kazakh, and Central Asian values. Ethnic Russians may prioritize looks in urban settings, but Kazakh cultural norms (emphasizing family and status) temper this focus in mixed communities.
    • Economic growth and urbanization expose ethnic Russians to global beauty standards, but rural areas and older generations maintain traditional criteria like loyalty and shared values.
  • Cultural Nuance:
    • The hierarchy is more pronounced among ethnic Russians than Kazakhs, reflecting stronger ties to Russian urban culture. However, Kazakhstan’s economic optimism and cultural diversity dilute the Anglosphere’s extreme focus on looks.
Thus, countries such as Belarus, Russia, Moldova and Kazakhstan are countries where men with average faces can still get a Margot Robbie lookalike. They each offer he best prospects for a man who's a 6 to land with a woman who's a 9, in other words.
  • Comparative Analysis
    • Urban vs. Rural Divide: Across all five regions, urban areas show greater adoption of the beauty-based hierarchy due to globalization, social media, and dating apps. Rural areas remain more traditional, prioritizing practical and familial considerations.
    • Gender Asymmetry: Unlike the Anglosphere, where both men and women face pressure to be attractive, these regions place disproportionate emphasis on women’s appearance. Men are often judged on status, resources, or reliability, reflecting traditional gender roles.
    • Economic Constraints: Economic challenges in Ukraine, Moldova, and Belarus prioritize stability over superficial traits, limiting the hierarchy’s dominance. Russia and urban Kazakhstan, with relatively stronger economies, show more Anglosphere-like trends.
    • Cultural Resistance: Post-Soviet values, Orthodox Christianity (in Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, Belarus), and Central Asian traditions (in Kazakhstan) emphasize family and community, acting as a counterweight to the Anglosphere’s individualistic focus on looks.
    • Globalization’s Role: Western media and social platforms are key vectors for spreading the beauty hierarchy, but their influence varies by region’s openness to the West (Ukraine > Russia/Kazakhstan > Moldova/Belarus).

    Conclusion
    In the Anglosphere, the dating and mating hierarchy based on physical attractiveness thrives due to hyper-individualism, media saturation, economic prosperity, and the decline of traditional institutions. This creates a competitive, visually driven romantic market where looks are a primary currency.
    In Ukraine, Moldova, Russia, Belarus, and ethnic Russian parts of Kazakhstan, the phenomenon has spread to varying degrees, primarily in urban centers among younger generations exposed to Western media and dating apps. However, it is less pervasive than in the Anglosphere due to:
    • Strong traditional values emphasizing family, stability, and practicality.
    • Economic realities that prioritize resources over superficial traits.
    • Cultural resistance to Western individualism and asymmetric gender expectations.
    Ukraine shows the most adoption due to its Western integration, followed by urban Russia and Kazakhstan’s ethnic Russian communities. Moldova and Belarus lag behind, constrained by economic and cultural factors. While the beauty hierarchy exists in pockets, it remains secondary to other social and economic priorities in these regions, distinguishing them from the Anglosphere’s more extreme focus on physical attractiveness.

I was correct when I said this.
Basically, I need to go where American soft power and media saturation is at its lowest, if not a bare minimum in Eastern Europe.

The question is where would that be? Should I give Belarus and Moldova a try next year?

Can't go now because I shattered my leg bone and it will take a full year to be physically healed entirely, but next year has an open door.
 
It’s still just buxxing at the end of the day and most of us have no bux or looks.
 
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You would not fit in with the east or central europe.
 
You would not fit in with the east or central europe.
I don't really care for Central Europe, but why not Eastern Europe?

I'm a White American Man of English descent and the people in Ukraine welcomed me despite being Autistic. Siberia has a lot of ethnic Russians, too.
 
I don't really care for Central Europe, but why not Eastern Europe?

I'm a White American Man of English descent and the people in Ukraine welcomed me despite being Autistic. Siberia has a lot of ethnic Russians, too.
I was on about the balkans.
 

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