Doing lefort 1 high cut but Clockwise rotation to reach better then paransal implants results

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Had this wonderful idea in a dream last night.
Instead of doing parasal implants before rhino, one could advance the maxilla and do a cw roation. this would not give you the dogmaxed look as with cw they shorten it. it might elongate your midface a little but if you dont do it too much it isnt bad.
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What i wanna achive (counter chimp lipp) so getting the nose forward and maxilla forward but not giving you bimaxillary progmatism.
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Could this be the final official solution to the age old problem? (ofc do that before getting a rhinoplasty
Better example higher res
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even better would be with quad
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AustrianMogger said:
Had this wonderful idea in a dream last night.
Instead of doing parasal implants before rhino, one could advance the maxilla and do a cw roation. this would not give you the dogmaxed look as with cw they shorten it. it might elongate your midface a little but if you dont do it too much it isnt bad.
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What i wanna achive (counter chimp lipp) so getting the nose forward and maxilla forward but not giving you bimaxillary progmatism.
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Could this be the final official solution to the age old problem? (ofc do that before getting a rhinoplasty
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Doing what paranasal implants would simply do with extra steps that won't work, on top of having more risks, not knowing how cw affects your anterior face too.

:lul:

What the fuck is this, stop writing bullshit from your dreams, it's not divine revelation, you're just schizophrenic.
 
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dont do cw, whats the point? just do anterior lefort advancement (quad or not) to compensate for the class iii (unless its brutal) and you wont need no fucking paranasal implants at all
 
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Sadist said:
dont do cw, whats the point? just do anterior lefort advancement (quad or not) to compensate for the class iii (unless its brutal) and you wont need no fucking paranasal implants at all
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Read my post. How to get from pic one to pic two.
Moving the nose forward and getting philtrum straight.
 
AustrianMogger said:
Read my post. How to get from pic one to pic two.
Moving the nose forward and getting philtrum straight.
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That's what properly placed paranasal implants do, you fucking idiot.
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this is exactly what you want, and it's achievable with just paranasal implants.
 
Ogionth said:
That's what properly placed paranasal implants do, you fucking idiot.
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this is exactly what you want, and it's achievable with just paranasal implants.
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yes but how to achive it with fucking bones.
That is exactly my problem. I belive my method would do it with bones.
So with bone movements.
One could do a bone graft but that could reabsorb.
Not many surgeons do paransal implants.
 
AustrianMogger said:
yes but how to achive it with fucking bones.
That is exactly my problem. I belive my method would do it with bones.
So with bone movements.
One could do a bone graft but that could reabsorb.
Not many surgeons do paransal implants.
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Wtf are you even talking about

Your method of doing it with bones is way worse, in fact it won't even do what you want and it will fuck your whole face up.

Why the fuck would you want to not do paranasal implants and go for bones if you're looking for an aesthetic result?
 
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AustrianMogger said:
No look at results. People get the chimp lipp wit ccw...
I need the oposite.
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not everyone does

it depends on the case tbh, but a LOT of fucked up noses got semi (if not fully) fixed with lefort without even a need of rhino
 
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Sadist said:
not everyone does

it depends on the case tbh, but a LOT of fucked up noses got semi (if not fully) fixed with lefort without even a need of rhino
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would do rhino regardless. To get tipp from front a lot smaller
This would be the lefort to bring the nose forward and reduce retard philtrum and after get rhino to lengthen comunella, make nose straight and tipp much smaller.
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Sadist said:
i dont, you do
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If you disagree with the fact that simple lf1 does not project your nasal aperture then just keep quiet because you're ignorant
 
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Ogionth said:
If you disagree with the fact that simple lf1 does not project your nasal aperture then just keep quiet because you're ignorant
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I belive he meant standard lefort 1. Some surgeons cut below nasal spine making it retarded and even worse.
Alfaro was infamous for doing that sometimes
 
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AustrianMogger said:
I belive he meant standard lefort 1. Some surgeons cut below nasal spine making it retarded and even worse.
Alfaro was infamous for doing that sometimes
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Well even that still doesn't project the nasal aperture in a manner that would project your nasal aperture.
 
Ogionth said:
It did exactly what you want, why are you doing this schizophrenic bs instead of just going for that?
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Dude cause nobody does paransals in austria
Secondary its an implant.
If i can find a bone osteotome solution i always choose that.
In Austria we only have bone grafting at best.
Also i have an overbite. If i get braces it will recess my mouth back. By my theory method mout position can be preserved while nose can be projected.
 
AustrianMogger said:
Dude cause nobody does paransals in austria
Secondary its an implant.
If i can find a bone osteotome solution i always choose that.
In Austria we only have bone grafting at best.
Also i have an overbite. If i get braces it will recess my mouth back. By my theory method mout position can be preserved while nose can be projected.
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Why would you want to do everything in austria? :unsure:
 
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Ogionth said:
Well even that still doesn't project the nasal aperture in a manner that would project your nasal aperture.
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Skilled surgeon can do this.
This projects it
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Ogionth said:
Why would you want to do everything in austria? :unsure:
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Costs and try to explain this to a surgeon.
Wanted to do it with giant but he didnt respond to me anymore
So i might have to rethink.
Also again for longterm an osteotomy is much better then implant.
An implant can be taken out, an osteotomy doesnt.
 
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Why would you want to do everything in austria? :unsure:
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Also these implants are often from silicon so giga over.
Even if its from titan its still over. Lefort 1 can impact the area the same way or better
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AustrianMogger said:
Look at my post, is this how this result is achived?
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which one

Ogionth said:
If you disagree with the fact that simple lf1 does not project your nasal aperture then just keep quiet because you're ignorant
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well look at b&as on a lot of lefort patients with dorsal humps & youll see that they improve/go away
 
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Ogionth said:
First of all, this is not a standard LF1, it's called quadrangular cut.

And secondly,

If you're going this far, then why not go for LF2 instead lmao, that will help your infras too, similar risk ratio but better results.

And thirdly, this is not suitable for you because you don't want your lower maxilla advanced along with this
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Would take the advancement cause it would then get corrected with braces even more.
However. CW lefort 1 actually doesnt advance lower maxilla s much as upper
 
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Sadist said:
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well look at b&as on a lot of lefort patients with dorsal humps & youll see that they improve/go away
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Send any normal LF1s whose nasal aperture advanced, make sure it's not quadrangular.

Let's see
 
AustrianMogger said:
Costs and try to explain this to a surgeon.
Wanted to do it with giant but he didnt respond to me anymore
So i might have to rethink.
Also again for longterm an osteotomy is much better then implant.
An implant can be taken out, an osteotomy doesnt.
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You're retarded :lul:

"An implant can be taken out, an ostettoy cant so osteotomy is better"

Why the fuck would u take out an implant :lul:
 
AustrianMogger said:
Would take the advancement cause it would then get corrected with braces even more.
However. CW lefort 1 actually doesnt advance lower maxilla s much as upper
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Just dogmax yourself with quadrangular lf1 that's not gonna make your lip shape better than rn, then get braces on top of that to change your teeth even more to try and fix the lip and fuck your anterior face with CW theory

OR get paranasal implants, the choice is yours
 
Just do paranasals, leforte 1 or higher wont do anything, and doing cw will create a posterior openbite.
 
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some peeps fail rhino and get this when cutting columunella
 
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any xray of the cut style? or any other procedures involved

because why would lf1 bring a change in this length?View attachment 4139355

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"rhino"

Send the actual case report of this one because I can't find it, or show the cut style of lf1 in xray
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@Sadist

"Yes
With either LeFort II or LeFort I + Open Rhinoplasty.
Otherwise no."

Giant's words in response to whether a simple bimax advances the nasal aperture, I'm not saying he's right about everything but yet what he says still is somewhat more worthy of looking into than most ppl here
 
Sadist said:
not everyone does

it depends on the case tbh, but a LOT of fucked up noses got semi (if not fully) fixed with lefort without even a need of rhino
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A lot of niggas get rhino when they just need lefort :smonk:
 
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@Sadist

"Yes
With either LeFort II or LeFort I + Open Rhinoplasty.
Otherwise no."

Giant's words in response to whether a simple bimax advances the nasal aperture, I'm not saying he's right about everything but yet what he says still is somewhat more worthy of looking into than most ppl here
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Lf 1 and open rhino
 
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@Sadist

"Yes
With either LeFort II or LeFort I + Open Rhinoplasty.
Otherwise no."

Giant's words in response to whether a simple bimax advances the nasal aperture, I'm not saying he's right about everything but yet what he says still is somewhat more worthy of looking into than most ppl here
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bro i just showed u proofπŸ’€
 
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