Don't get surgery if you're not HTN

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Dead serious. EVERY surgery transformation I see has minimal improvements because the people who get them are usually already ugly and it in now way effectively changes their external perception. Surgery only works when you're already decent looking and helps give you that extra boost. It's okay for good looking celebrities to get surgeries but when a sub-5 does, it really changes nothing about his life. Him constantly thinking about his looks now and all the money and time put into the surgery makes it a HUGE net negative overall. Show me one sub-5 that truly ascended with surgery (UNFRAUDED).
 
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only time when surgery is worth is when you're chad and you want to get even chaddier to mog the other chads
 
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if your pheno is good no reason to not go for surgery as a LTN/MTN
 
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only time when surgery is worth is when you're chad and you want to get even chaddier to mog the other chads
Right. It's okay for Ian Somerhalder to get surgery. The balding Indian janitor, nope!
 
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legit , transformation from LTN to Normie is not worth it
 
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if your pheno is good no reason to not go for surgery as a LTN/MTN
I can maybe agree. If you're tall and white it could be enough. I would say not LTN though
 
if u can go from MTN to htn why not?
 
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You should definitely get surgery if you're a good looking manlet or hate your height.

But not facial surgery.

CCW trimax and jaw implants can help you become from below average to above.
 
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You should definitely get surgery if you're a good looking manlet or hate your height.

But not facial surgery.
Hmm, perhaps, but LL usually isn't enough if you're that short. Also the costs + physical toll + embarrassment of everyone knowing you got LL must suck
 
Hmm, perhaps, but LL usually isn't enough if you're that short. Also the costs + physical toll + embarrassment of everyone knowing you got LL must suck
5'7 to 5'11 is doable without fucking up the proportions.

Height is important in other aspects of life, not just adding - another bonus.

The question is the fucking money and the brutality.
 
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surgeries most of the time don't make someone's good looking, because harmony = nature
doctor won't give ya harmony
 
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Usually surgery from what I've seen only ascends on average 0.1-0.2 PSL
im not talking about autistic psl improvements, I'm talking about normal rating
 
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surgeries most of the time don't make someone's good looking, because harmony = nature
doctor won't give ya harmony
True. The best "surgeries" are typically small things done. Like fillers or eyelid surgery or a nosejob. Once someone starts making huge structural changes like their jaw it usually ends up looking unharmonious, like they're not a real person
 
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im not talking about autistic psl improvements, I'm talking about normal rating
Right. Little to no IRL appeal change. Your friend Becky isn't now attracted to you. She sees you the same post-surgery. Maybe looks of you as lesser actually
 
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the only legit reason is real deformation like underbite, because then it'll be free and covered by medical insurance
 
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while would you do surgery if you are decent looking?

this place is bad for your mental health OP

Take a break
 
True. The best "surgeries" are typically small things done. Like fillers or eyelid surgery or a nosejob. Once someone starts making huge structural changes like their jaw it usually ends up looking unharmonious, like they're not a real person
yea. i would say little surgeries like fixing a deviated septum are worth it tho
 
Right. Little to no IRL appeal change. Your friend Becky isn't now attracted to you. She sees you the same post-surgery. Maybe looks of you as lesser actually
why am I looking way better then after giving myself a smaller nose + little more chin width?
 
only time when surgery is worth is when you're chad and you want to get even chaddier to mog the other chads
I sometimes wanna get gigachad with surgery but it’s too risky, could get you all botched up
 
I sometimes wanna get gigachad with surgery but it’s too risky, could get you all botched up
I think if it's small things, no. Huge surgeries, yes.
 
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Top 1% result. Great for that guy
bimax + rhino + ht if your hairline is shit = ascension recipe for most people

it's difficult for someone to be ugly when fixing these
 
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WRONG

it's literally the opposite , don't get surgery if you're already good looking

surgery is for fixing big failos not enhancing already existing features , so it's ideal to ascend you from ugly to average

and then you have to do extra stuff like fillers , contact lenses, and other softmaxes etc... to ascend higher than average
 
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the surgeries you see minimal improvements on are because most people get the wrong unneeded surgery
 
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insha'Allah, I will Ascend from MTN to full-blown chad with 5"LL.
 
Woah! What surgeries did he get?
 
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The opposite is true
Gigatruecels benefit most from surgery
 
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The opposite is true
Gigatruecels benefit most from surgery
True, Even in the most extreme case where you go from 1PSL to 3PSL, you may be invisible in the dating market but on the other hand be more respected by soyciety.
 
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Bullshit

If you're mtn like me you just have to be very very realistic about what you can get in one surgery

You may need 3 smartly planned surgeries to make a transformation similar to what you want

In that time, you also start to change your perception of yourself
 
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Top 1% result. Great for that guy
If u have falios,get surgery for it,dosent Matter if u are trucel or htn.

I am htn but i will get a rhino and midface downgraft and ramus implants to get a longer ramus.
Maybe an underye fat graft too.
I have determined that this would ascend me to chad level.
 
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You cannot create beauty
 
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You cannot create beauty
but you can get rid of occurring failos in your face.

for example bad nose -> rhino

recessed -> bimax

and so on, there are solutions but yes you can't create harmony you have to live with what you were given with, mostly.
 
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but you can get rid of occurring failos in your face.

for example bad nose -> rhino

recessed -> bimax

and so on, there are solutions but yes you can't create harmony you have to live with what you were given with, mostly.
A normie does not have falios and especially not a high tier one. Fixing a huge nose (falio) is easy, how do you grow bones?
 
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A normie does not have falios and especially not a high tier one. Fixing a huge nose (falio) is easy, how do you grow bones?
I am normie and have minor failos like nose, ears and narrow jaw.

these are fixable though except jaw maybe but beardfraud is saving me


and you can get bones by getting implant or fillers
 
You should definitely get surgery if you're a good looking manlet or hate your height.

But not facial surgery.

CCW trimax and jaw implants can help you become from below average to above.
For manlets, you are specifically talking about LL right?

And who are you suggesting CCW trimax and jaw implant for?
 
For manlets, you are specifically talking about LL right?

And who are you suggesting CCW trimax and jaw implant for?
LL for manlets CCW tri for recessedcels and poor forward grown jawlets.
 
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