Don’t take roid advice from here

[patricknotstar]

You know every guy in this site is skinny fat with less muscle mass than an anorexic Japanese girl right. Dudes here watch one moreplatesmoredates vids and think they’re experts giving retarded cycles. Don’t even take advice from me, I’m small too. If you are Srs about gear I suggest

1. getbig.com
2. Gh15 bible
3. Anabolic minds
4. Mesorx

guys here are actual bodybuilders , stop trying to reinvent the wheel and just use the path that has worked for them

 

[.*my*.]

No one should take steroids before lifting natty for at least 3 years. If you aren’t patient and committed enough to simply lift for 4 times a week and eat enough food for a couple of years then there’s no way you will have enough commitment to take substances that require you to eat more, spend more and lift more.

Steroids don’t make things easier, they make things harder and more expensive.

 

[KingOfRome]

Agreed. People here lick Derek's sweaty ass crack and tell everyone else they can get jacked on 200 mg of test, and if not, it doesn't matter, ottermode is trendy anyway, don't take any more than 400 mg or you'll turn into a goose.

 

[BigBoy]

Agreed. People here lick Derek's sweaty ass crack and tell everyone else they can get jacked on 200 mg of test, and if not, it doesn't matter, ottermode is trendy anyway, don't take any more than 400 mg or you'll turn into a goose.

and @OP whats wrong with moreplatesmoredates?

 

[Deleted member 4430]

dont take any advice from here

 

[KingOfRome]

and @OP whats wrong with moreplatesmoredates?

He tells people to go on baby cycles because of muh minimum effective dose. Completely ignoring the fact that most UGL gear is underdosed, and the average lifter responds too poorly to gear for his baby cycles to be even the least bit effective after the newbie chem gains have been made over the first cycle. Why would you zap your balls just to be barely above your natty limit? If you want to enhance, ENHANCE.

 

[patricknotstar]

No one should take steroids before lifting natty for at least 3 years. If you aren’t patient and committed enough to simply lift for 4 times a week and eat enough food for a couple of years then there’s no way you will have enough commitment to take substances that require you to eat more, spend more and lift more.

Steroids don’t make things easier, they make things harder and more expensive.

and @OP whats wrong with moreplatesmoredates?

he admitted to using 600mg of test and 600mg of tren for multiple cycles. Yet he downplays the dosages you need to get big and brags about only using 100mg of trt to keep his size. The dude pushes sarms it’s in his best interest to put them over steroids

No one should take steroids before lifting natty for at least 3 years. If you aren’t patient and committed enough to simply lift for 4 times a week and eat enough food for a couple of years then there’s no way you will have enough commitment to take substances that require you to eat more, spend more and lift more.

Steroids don’t make things easier, they make things harder and more expensive.

High inhib if u don’t buy vial of tren on same day as ur gym membership

 

[MentalistKebab]

Nigga you are literally cruising on 500mg Test year round with nothing to show for.

You are the last person who should give roid advice.

 

[patricknotstar]

Nigga you are literally cruising on 500mg Test year round with nothing to show for.

You are the last person who should give roid advice.

500mg of test without training and shit genetics , my physique is decent. What did you expect me to look like on a beginner dose with below average genetics and no training ?

 

[audimax]

bro what Im wondering, you said yourself that you use 500mg year round, are you using an AI? If so, how much and what frequency? Nobody can get away with using test for a year and not getting high E sides

 

[patricknotstar]

bro what Im wondering, you said yourself that you use 500mg year round, are you using an AI? If so, how much and what frequency? Nobody can get away with using test for a year and not getting high E sides

I use 6mg aromasin twice a week and try not to eat too much sugar , since I cannot train all I can really use the gear for is staying somewhat lean and not being skinny

 

[Deleted member 4562]

The dude pushes sarms it’s in his best interest to put them over steroids

Are you retarded?

He literally suggests a test cycle as your first cycle. He doesn't even push SARMS either lmao.

Besides, SARMs are easier to get, not illegal, are oral only, and don't have as long of a downtime in regards to HPTA suppression, they aren't as strong as anabolics, but most here and the ones looking to get on PED's don't have crazy body dysmorphia looking to get as big as possible and arent obsessed with getting drowned in cocks from gym bros on the internet.

 

[audimax]

I use 6mg aromasin twice a week and try not to eat too much sugar , since I cannot train all I can really use the gear for is staying somewhat lean and not being skinny

so this is the equivalent of like 0.5mg arimidex a week right? and this is enough for you, you never developed itchy nipples? And you are sure your gear is not udnerdosed?

 

[patricknotstar]

so this is the equivalent of like 0.5mg arimidex a week right? and this is enough for you, you never developed itchy nipples? And you are sure your gear is not udnerdosed?

Arimidex binds to aromatase enzyme then unbinds once it’s half life is over so u get crashed estrogen than a massive surge, it’s impossible to balance ur estrogen with it, aromasin permanently kills the enzyme and ur body takes about 3 days to produce more aromatase so twice a week or e3d aromasin at a low dose is best

 

[patricknotstar]

Are you retarded?

He literally suggests a test cycle as your first cycle. He doesn't even push SARMS either lmao.

Besides, SARMs are easier to get, not illegal, are oral only, and don't have as long of a downtime in regards to HPTA suppression, they aren't as strong as anabolics, but most here and the ones looking to get on PED's don't have crazy body dysmorphia looking to get as big as possible and arent obsessed with getting drowned in cocks from gym bros on the internet.

No I’m not retarded

 

[audimax]

Arimidex binds to aromatase enzyme then unbinds once it’s half life is over so u get crashed estrogen than a massive surge, it’s impossible to balance ur estrogen with it, aromasin permanently kills the enzyme and ur body takes about 3 days to produce more aromatase so twice a week or e3d aromasin at a low dose is best

do you take anything else?
and are you concerned about your hair?

 

[patricknotstar]

do you take anything else?
and are you concerned about your hair?

No just that , I haven’t tried any other steroid. I feel there is no point since I can’t lift I won’t receive the max benefits and will just be putting unnecessary strain on my body. Zero hair loss

 

[Renaissance.Chad]

No one should take steroids before lifting natty for at least 3 years.

If you're still gonna do it, why wait 3 years?

 

[MentalistKebab]

500mg of test without training and shit genetics , my physique is decent. What did you expect me to look like on a beginner dose with below average genetics and no training ?

Nigga you are on a beginner BLASTING dose year round. "Muh I dont train" is not an argument.

And Derek (as much as I disagree with him) is maintaining a better physique than yours with 1/4 of your dose. And obviously in a healthier state than you.

There is a difference between using blasting doses to create a physique like a sane guy and wasting it like you.

 

[.*my*.]

If you're still gonna do it, why wait 3 years?

Because by then it becomes a habit and you know for sure that you won’t quit and will take the proper measurements to make sure you do a proper cycle and recover safely.

 

[.*my*.]

he admitted to using 600mg of test and 600mg of tren for multiple cycles. Yet he downplays the dosages you need to get big and brags about only using 100mg of trt to keep his size. The dude pushes sarms it’s in his best interest to put them over steroids

High inhib if u don’t buy vial of tren on same day as ur gym membership

You look like trash for someone who’s on roids. Why should I listen to you?

 

[.*my*.]

Nigga you are literally cruising on 500mg Test year round with nothing to show for.

You are the last person who should give roid advice.

Agreed

 

[TheChosenChad]

Don't tell me that's you in your profile pic, Roiding for that.

 

[.*my*.]

Don't tell me that's you in your profile pic, Roiding for that.

He’s a dum dum honestly. He started injecting even though his doctor told him he didn’t need it but he did it anyway because “his face looked low T”. The reality was that he was too young and facial hair takes time to develop. His T was probably normal.

 

[TheChosenChad]

He’s a dum dum honestly. He started injecting even though his doctor told him he didn’t need it but he did it anyway because “his face looked low T”. The reality was that he was too young and facial hair takes time to develop. His T was probably normal.

Most people look like shit on roids, because they don't know what they are doing. There's a sub reddit full of roiders that look like dog shit. @IwantToLooksMaxx

 

[.*my*.]

Most people look like shit on roids, because they don't know what they are doing. There's a sub reddit full of roiders that look like dog shit. @IwantToLooksMaxx

True. Personally I don’t think steroids are bad, I think they can be pretty damn awesome, but most people shouldn’t take them before 5 years of lifting. You have to understand your body better and become more serious about your training and dieting, which takes time. Habits take time. Without that knowledge and developed habits, you will not be able to look good on steroids, and even if you do it will only be temporary.

 

[TheChosenChad]

True. Personally I don’t think steroids are bad, I think they can be pretty damn awesome, but most people shouldn’t take them before 5 years of lifting. You have to understand your body better and become more serious about your training and dieting, which takes time. Habits take time. Without that knowledge and developed habits, you will not be able to look good on steroids, and even if you do it will only be temporary.

Exactly I saw dramatic improvements in my body with an improved diet, something many don't even implement. Along with proper sleep and recovery, Proper training methods to reach their goal. All of which take awhile to implement one by one.

 

[patricknotstar]

Nigga you are on a beginner BLASTING dose year round. "Muh I dont train" is not an argument.

And Derek (as much as I disagree with him) is maintaining a better physique than yours with 1/4 of your dose. And obviously in a healthier state than you.

There is a difference between using blasting doses to create a physique like a sane guy and wasting it like you.

Don’t call me nigga and also Derek admittedly abused growth hormone and tren for years creating permanently new muscle cells which he can maintain on trt. You really don’t know what your talking about and what actual cycle doses are , If you think taking 500mg of testosterone and not training just magically makes someone jacked after a year, every guy at the gym would be huge and never use anything else

also look at the study where they put young men on 600mg for 20weeks straight , did those guys end up looking like bodybuilders , no. So there is nothing abnormal about my results

 

[MentalistKebab]

Don’t call me nigga and also Derek admittedly abused growth hormone and tren for years creating permanently new muscle cells which he can maintain on trt. You really don’t know what your talking about and what actual cycle doses are , If you think taking 500mg of testosterone and not training just magically makes someone jacked after a year, every guy at the gym would be huge and never use anything else

also look at the study where they put young men on 600mg for 20weeks straight , did those guys end up looking like bodybuilders , no. So there is nothing abnormal about my results

Nigga I am saying he builted that physique with an unhealthy dose, but maintains it with a healthy dose, just like a sane bodybuilder.

And your last sentence is my exact point. You are absolutely wasting your health for no reason with cruising on 500mg with a body like that. Your results are normal for how stupid your idea is.

 

[TITUS]

There is only one thing worse than not verifying information with several sources, and that is to listen to stupid greycels like OP.

 

[ChangeOfHeart]

Imagine taking advice from Incels.

 

[Soalian]

IMO three of best sources on the subject, with active and knowledgeable forums, are:



- anabolicminds.com

- thinksteroids.com

- professionalmuscle.com



Got most of my knowledge about AAS from above sources.

 

[Rabbi]

and @OP whats wrong with moreplatesmoredates?

People don't want to believe its possible to get a good physique naturally so they use insane doses of test as a newbie and justify it with "muh you can't get big naturally or with low doses"

 

[davidzur]

Happy to give roid advice for anyone that needs it.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

just stay natural twink mode

 

[patricknotstar]

Nigga I am saying he builted that physique with an unhealthy dose, but maintains it with a healthy dose, just like a sane bodybuilder.

And your last sentence is my exact point. You are absolutely wasting your health for no reason with cruising on 500mg with a body like that. Your results are normal for how stupid your idea is.

Listen motherfucker you have no idea what I am going through and why I do the things I do, so don’t say stupid shit. think before you talk, and consider yourself grateful that you can workout and improve your body, you have no idea what it’s like to be in the ICU with a needle in ur arm and for it to hurt everytime u breath

 

[MewingJBP]

gh15 suggests you take 2000mg tren a week for 6 months

 

[clavicel]

Indeed you should never take roid advice on this website, this thread included.

 

[Deleted member 3990]

dont take any advice from here

Ok, then I will start by not taking this advice

 

[Soalian]

Indeed you should never take roid advice on this website, this thread included.

Overall, yes, I agree, but it's not as clear-cut, IMO.

If you start a thread, asking away for advice, get a few replies, then consider all the advice given to you, indiscriminately, you won't get what you were originally looking for, I believe,

because the few good advice given to you, by the members knowledgeable in the matter, will get completely drowned out, among all the other comments from people, not as much knowledgeable.

And more often than not, good, insightful replies in threads, are then shut down in comments by ignorant people, who just want to be right.