[DORIAN VS HUMBERTO VS LORENZO] Which of these guys mog the hardest?

Which of these guys mog the hardest?


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who mogs then, wilma or joma?
Who mogs?



Storm
name
SeasonDates as a
Category 4
Time as a
Category 4
Peak one-minute
sustained winds
PressureSource(s)
Douglas*2020July 2412 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Genevieve2020August 186 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Marie2020October 2–330 hours140 mph (220 km/h)945 hPa (27.9 inHg)
Felicia2021July 16–1848 hours145 mph (230 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Linda2021August 14–1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Darby2022July 11–1224 hours140 mph (220 km/h)953 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Orlene2022October 26 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Roslyn2022October 22–2312 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Dora‡*2023August 3–10146 hours145 mph (230 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Fernanda2023August 14–1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)955 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Hilary2023August 18–1933 hours145 mph (230 km/h)939 hPa (27.7 inHg)
Lidia2023October 10–116 hours140 mph (220 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Norma2023October 1912 hours130 mph (215 km/h)941 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Notes:
  • † The storm noted formed or attained Category 4 status in the central Pacific basin but may have formed in the eastern Pacific basin
  • ‡ The storm noted attained Category 4 status more than once
  • * The storm noted was both a Category 4 in the eastern and central Pacific basins
  • ** The storm noted originated in the Atlantic basin, but later intensified into a Category 4 hurricane in the eastern Pacific basin
  • # Storms that attained Category 4 status at one point but intensified into Category 5 at a later time are not included.
 
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Storm
name
SeasonDates as a
Category 4
Time as a
Category 4
Peak one-minute
sustained winds
PressureSource(s)
Douglas*2020July 2412 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Genevieve2020August 186 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Marie2020October 2–330 hours140 mph (220 km/h)945 hPa (27.9 inHg)
Felicia2021July 16–1848 hours145 mph (230 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Linda2021August 14–1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Darby2022July 11–1224 hours140 mph (220 km/h)953 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Orlene2022October 26 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Roslyn2022October 22–2312 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Dora‡*2023August 3–10146 hours145 mph (230 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Fernanda2023August 14–1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)955 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Hilary2023August 18–1933 hours145 mph (230 km/h)939 hPa (27.7 inHg)
Lidia2023October 10–116 hours140 mph (220 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Norma2023October 1912 hours130 mph (215 km/h)941 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Notes:
  • † The storm noted formed or attained Category 4 status in the central Pacific basin but may have formed in the eastern Pacific basin
  • ‡ The storm noted attained Category 4 status more than once
  • * The storm noted was both a Category 4 in the eastern and central Pacific basins
  • ** The storm noted originated in the Atlantic basin, but later intensified into a Category 4 hurricane in the eastern Pacific basin
  • # Storms that attained Category 4 status at one point but intensified into Category 5 at a later time are not included.
Dora mogs
 
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Storm
name
SeasonDates as a
Category 4
Time as a
Category 4
Peak one-minute
sustained winds
PressureSource(s)
Douglas*2020July 2412 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Genevieve2020August 186 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Marie2020October 2–330 hours140 mph (220 km/h)945 hPa (27.9 inHg)
Felicia2021July 16–1848 hours145 mph (230 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Linda2021August 14–1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Darby2022July 11–1224 hours140 mph (220 km/h)953 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Orlene2022October 26 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Roslyn2022October 22–2312 hours130 mph (215 km/h)954 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Dora‡*2023August 3–10146 hours145 mph (230 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Fernanda2023August 14–1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)955 hPa (28.2 inHg)
Hilary2023August 18–1933 hours145 mph (230 km/h)939 hPa (27.7 inHg)
Lidia2023October 10–116 hours140 mph (220 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Norma2023October 1912 hours130 mph (215 km/h)941 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Notes:
  • † The storm noted formed or attained Category 4 status in the central Pacific basin but may have formed in the eastern Pacific basin
  • ‡ The storm noted attained Category 4 status more than once
  • * The storm noted was both a Category 4 in the eastern and central Pacific basins
  • ** The storm noted originated in the Atlantic basin, but later intensified into a Category 4 hurricane in the eastern Pacific basin
  • # Storms that attained Category 4 status at one point but intensified into Category 5 at a later time are not included.
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Storm
name
SeasonDates as a
Category 4
Time as a
Category 4
Peak one-minute
sustained winds
PressureSource(s)
Adrian2011June 1018 hours140 mph (220 km/h)944 hPa (27.9 inHg)[6][73]
Dora2011July 21–2230 hours155 mph (250 km/h)929 hPa (27.4 inHg)[6][74]
Eugene2011August 3–418 hours140 mph (220 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)[6][75]
Hilary2011September 23–2760 hours145 mph (230 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)[6][76]
Kenneth2011November 22–2318 hours145 mph (230 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)[6][77]
Emilia2012July 1012 hours140 mph (220 km/h)945 hPa (27.9 inHg)[78]
Amanda2014May 25–2636 hours155 mph (250 km/h)932 hPa (27.5 inHg)
Cristina2014June 1218 hours150 mph (240 km/h)935 hPa (27.6 inHg)
Iselle2014August 4–518 hours140 mph (220 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Odile2014September 1412 hours140 mph (220 km/h)918 hPa (27.1 inHg)
Simon2014October 46 hours130 mph (215 km/h)946 hPa (27.9 inHg)
Andres2015June 124 hours145 mph (230 km/h)937 hPa (27.7 inHg)[79][80][81]
Blanca2015June 3–624 hours145 mph (230 km/h)936 hPa (27.6 inHg)[82]
Dolores2015July 156 hours130 mph (215 km/h)946 hPa (27.9 inHg)[83]
Hilda2015August 812 hours140 mph (220 km/h)946 hPa (27.9 inHg)[84]
Ignacio2015August 29–3024 hours145 mph (230 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)[85]
Jimena2015August 29 – September 184 hours155 mph (250 km/h)932 hPa (27.5 inHg)
Kilo2015August 30–3136 hours140 mph (220 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)
Olaf*2015October 19–2142 hours150 mph (240 km/h)938 hPa (27.7 inHg)
Sandra2015November 2618 hours150 mph (240 km/h)934 hPa (27.6 inHg)[86]
Blas2016July 66 hours140 mph (220 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Georgette2016July 2512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)952 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Lester2016August 29–3136 hours145 mph (230 km/h)944 hPa (27.9 inHg)
Madeline2016August 306 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Seymour2016October 25–2624 hours150 mph (240 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)
Fernanda2017July 14–1630 hours145 mph (230 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Kenneth2017August 216 hours130 mph (215 km/h)952 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Aletta2018June 812 hours140 mph (220 km/h)943 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Bud2018June 1212 hours140 mph (220 km/h)943 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Hector‡*2018August 5–1096 hours155 mph (250 km/h)936 hPa (27.6 inHg)
Norman2018August 30 – September 348 hours150 mph (240 km/h)937 hPa (27.7 inHg)
Olivia2018September 76 hours130 mph (215 km/h)951 hPa (28.1 inHg)[87]
Rosa2018September 2818 hours145 mph (230 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)
Sergio2018October 424 hours140 mph (220 km/h)943 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Barbara2019July 2–442 hours155 mph (250 km/h)930 hPa (27 inHg)
Erick2019July 30–3112 hours130 mph (215 km/h)952 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Kiko2019September 1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Notes:
  • † The storm noted formed or attained Category 4 status in the central Pacific basin but may have formed in the eastern Pacific basin
  • ‡ The storm noted attained Category 4 status more than once
  • * The storm noted was both a Category 4 in the eastern and central Pacific basins
  • ** The storm noted originated in the Atlantic basin, but later intensified into a Category 4 hurricane in the eastern Pacific basin
  • # Storms that attained Category 4 status at one point but intensified into Category 5 at a later time are not included.
 
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Who mogs?



Storm
name
SeasonDates as a
Category 4
Time as a
Category 4
Peak one-minute
sustained winds
PressureSource(s)
Adrian2011June 1018 hours140 mph (220 km/h)944 hPa (27.9 inHg)[6][73]
Dora2011July 21–2230 hours155 mph (250 km/h)929 hPa (27.4 inHg)[6][74]
Eugene2011August 3–418 hours140 mph (220 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)[6][75]
Hilary2011September 23–2760 hours145 mph (230 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)[6][76]
Kenneth2011November 22–2318 hours145 mph (230 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)[6][77]
Emilia2012July 1012 hours140 mph (220 km/h)945 hPa (27.9 inHg)[78]
Amanda2014May 25–2636 hours155 mph (250 km/h)932 hPa (27.5 inHg)
Cristina2014June 1218 hours150 mph (240 km/h)935 hPa (27.6 inHg)
Iselle2014August 4–518 hours140 mph (220 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Odile2014September 1412 hours140 mph (220 km/h)918 hPa (27.1 inHg)
Simon2014October 46 hours130 mph (215 km/h)946 hPa (27.9 inHg)
Andres2015June 124 hours145 mph (230 km/h)937 hPa (27.7 inHg)[79][80][81]
Blanca2015June 3–624 hours145 mph (230 km/h)936 hPa (27.6 inHg)[82]
Dolores2015July 156 hours130 mph (215 km/h)946 hPa (27.9 inHg)[83]
Hilda2015August 812 hours140 mph (220 km/h)946 hPa (27.9 inHg)[84]
Ignacio2015August 29–3024 hours145 mph (230 km/h)942 hPa (27.8 inHg)[85]
Jimena2015August 29 – September 184 hours155 mph (250 km/h)932 hPa (27.5 inHg)
Kilo2015August 30–3136 hours140 mph (220 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)
Olaf*2015October 19–2142 hours150 mph (240 km/h)938 hPa (27.7 inHg)
Sandra2015November 2618 hours150 mph (240 km/h)934 hPa (27.6 inHg)[86]
Blas2016July 66 hours140 mph (220 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Georgette2016July 2512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)952 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Lester2016August 29–3136 hours145 mph (230 km/h)944 hPa (27.9 inHg)
Madeline2016August 306 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Seymour2016October 25–2624 hours150 mph (240 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)
Fernanda2017July 14–1630 hours145 mph (230 km/h)947 hPa (28.0 inHg)
Kenneth2017August 216 hours130 mph (215 km/h)952 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Aletta2018June 812 hours140 mph (220 km/h)943 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Bud2018June 1212 hours140 mph (220 km/h)943 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Hector‡*2018August 5–1096 hours155 mph (250 km/h)936 hPa (27.6 inHg)
Norman2018August 30 – September 348 hours150 mph (240 km/h)937 hPa (27.7 inHg)
Olivia2018September 76 hours130 mph (215 km/h)951 hPa (28.1 inHg)[87]
Rosa2018September 2818 hours145 mph (230 km/h)940 hPa (28 inHg)
Sergio2018October 424 hours140 mph (220 km/h)943 hPa (27.8 inHg)
Barbara2019July 2–442 hours155 mph (250 km/h)930 hPa (27 inHg)
Erick2019July 30–3112 hours130 mph (215 km/h)952 hPa (28.1 inHg)
Kiko2019September 1512 hours130 mph (215 km/h)950 hPa (28 inHg)
Notes:
  • † The storm noted formed or attained Category 4 status in the central Pacific basin but may have formed in the eastern Pacific basin
  • ‡ The storm noted attained Category 4 status more than once
  • * The storm noted was both a Category 4 in the eastern and central Pacific basins
  • ** The storm noted originated in the Atlantic basin, but later intensified into a Category 4 hurricane in the eastern Pacific basin
  • # Storms that attained Category 4 status at one point but intensified into Category 5 at a later time are not included.

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Doria is ideal for jbs
 
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They removed Adolph and Israel because JOOS cried but not Jova

The list approved in early 2001 included “Adolph” and “Israel.” In retrospect, one might think those choices would have raised some red flags, but committee chair Max Mayfield, director of the Miami-based National Hurricane Center, told a Jerusalem Post reporter at the time: “We have four billion people on the planet, and you are the only person I’ve ever had express a concern about the name Israel.” Mayfield defended the choice of “Israel” as “a good Spanish name.” He also argued that Adolph is “not the German spelling, and there are a lot of good people with the name Adolph, too.”

Jewish leaders strongly criticized the choice of names.

“I shudder to think how terrible it would be in Muslim countries in the Far East if they found themselves suffering from a storm by that name,” said Dr. Efraim Zuroff, director of the Jerusalem office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

Zuroff said there was “terrible irony” in the use of the name Israel since “the Nazis forced Jewish males who did not have what they considered to be a distinctly Jewish name to add the name Israel as a middle name.”

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, concurred. “How about Jesus?” Foxman declared. “That’s another good Spanish name. They wouldn’t name a hurricane Jesus, would they?” As for “Adolph,” Foxman told the Jerusalem Post that “in the lifetime of [Holocaust survivors] still alive, to name anything [Adolph] by an international body is offensive and
hideous.”

The WMO’s website acknowledged that naming storms after people is a not a universal practice. Storms in Asia, for example, are not given people’s names because “the practice of naming storms, which usually bring destruction, after persons appears to run counter to Oriental sensibilities.” Thus, in the western North Pacific region, storm names are chosen from lists submitted by 14 affected countries. Most of those are animals, flowers, or astrological references.

UN officials at first refused to reconsider “Israel” or “Adolph,” on the grounds that the committee had no established mechanism for altering lists between annual meetings. In fact, at the time of the controversy, Tropical Storm Adolph was already gathering strength 250 miles southwest of the Mexican coastline.

In response to the protests, however, the WMO soon reversed itself and agreed to change “Israel” to “Ivo.” Ironically, the storm named Ivo, which appeared off the coast of Africa that August, never made it beyond the category of tropical storm and caused no damage.

Likewise, although Adolph did reach hurricane strength, it never made landfall and thus caused no damage either.

Jewish leaders chalked up another victory. But some pundits were less than sympathetic.

“It’s understandable that some Jewish leaders and worrywarts said ‘Oy Vey’ when they learned of a United Nations commission’s decision to name a hurricane ‘Israel,’” wrote Jonah Goldberg, a prominent conservative Jewish intellectual and contributing editor of National Review. “I guess it would be better if the United Nations—a notoriously anti-Israel body–hadn’t opened the possibility of headlines such as ‘Israel Wipes Out Thousands in Manila’ or ‘Miami Without Power for Second Day, Thanks to Israel.’”

“But come on,” Goldberg continued. “Jews have enough to worry about… It may be bizarre, stupid and insensitive. But is this the most important battle for Israel or Jews right now? There are actual battles taking place in Israel right now. Wailing and moaning about the politically incorrect name of a hurricane will not change that fact at all…If the National Director of the ADL can’t find an injustice greater than a misnamed hurricane, he’s not looking hard enough.”
 
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They removed Adolph and Israel because JOOS cried but not Jova

The list approved in early 2001 included “Adolph” and “Israel.” In retrospect, one might think those choices would have raised some red flags, but committee chair Max Mayfield, director of the Miami-based National Hurricane Center, told a Jerusalem Post reporter at the time: “We have four billion people on the planet, and you are the only person I’ve ever had express a concern about the name Israel.” Mayfield defended the choice of “Israel” as “a good Spanish name.” He also argued that Adolph is “not the German spelling, and there are a lot of good people with the name Adolph, too.”

Jewish leaders strongly criticized the choice of names.

“I shudder to think how terrible it would be in Muslim countries in the Far East if they found themselves suffering from a storm by that name,” said Dr. Efraim Zuroff, director of the Jerusalem office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

Zuroff said there was “terrible irony” in the use of the name Israel since “the Nazis forced Jewish males who did not have what they considered to be a distinctly Jewish name to add the name Israel as a middle name.”

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, concurred. “How about Jesus?” Foxman declared. “That’s another good Spanish name. They wouldn’t name a hurricane Jesus, would they?” As for “Adolph,” Foxman told the Jerusalem Post that “in the lifetime of [Holocaust survivors] still alive, to name anything [Adolph] by an international body is offensive and
hideous.”

The WMO’s website acknowledged that naming storms after people is a not a universal practice. Storms in Asia, for example, are not given people’s names because “the practice of naming storms, which usually bring destruction, after persons appears to run counter to Oriental sensibilities.” Thus, in the western North Pacific region, storm names are chosen from lists submitted by 14 affected countries. Most of those are animals, flowers, or astrological references.

UN officials at first refused to reconsider “Israel” or “Adolph,” on the grounds that the committee had no established mechanism for altering lists between annual meetings. In fact, at the time of the controversy, Tropical Storm Adolph was already gathering strength 250 miles southwest of the Mexican coastline.

In response to the protests, however, the WMO soon reversed itself and agreed to change “Israel” to “Ivo.” Ironically, the storm named Ivo, which appeared off the coast of Africa that August, never made it beyond the category of tropical storm and caused no damage.

Likewise, although Adolph did reach hurricane strength, it never made landfall and thus caused no damage either.

Jewish leaders chalked up another victory. But some pundits were less than sympathetic.

“It’s understandable that some Jewish leaders and worrywarts said ‘Oy Vey’ when they learned of a United Nations commission’s decision to name a hurricane ‘Israel,’” wrote Jonah Goldberg, a prominent conservative Jewish intellectual and contributing editor of National Review. “I guess it would be better if the United Nations—a notoriously anti-Israel body–hadn’t opened the possibility of headlines such as ‘Israel Wipes Out Thousands in Manila’ or ‘Miami Without Power for Second Day, Thanks to Israel.’”

“But come on,” Goldberg continued. “Jews have enough to worry about… It may be bizarre, stupid and insensitive. But is this the most important battle for Israel or Jews right now? There are actual battles taking place in Israel right now. Wailing and moaning about the politically incorrect name of a hurricane will not change that fact at all…If the National Director of the ADL can’t find an injustice greater than a misnamed hurricane, he’s not looking hard enough.”
At every recessed person I see on the street, I shout Heil Hitler! eugenics never fails!
 
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They removed Adolph and Israel because JOOS cried but not Jova

The list approved in early 2001 included “Adolph” and “Israel.” In retrospect, one might think those choices would have raised some red flags, but committee chair Max Mayfield, director of the Miami-based National Hurricane Center, told a Jerusalem Post reporter at the time: “We have four billion people on the planet, and you are the only person I’ve ever had express a concern about the name Israel.” Mayfield defended the choice of “Israel” as “a good Spanish name.” He also argued that Adolph is “not the German spelling, and there are a lot of good people with the name Adolph, too.”

Jewish leaders strongly criticized the choice of names.

“I shudder to think how terrible it would be in Muslim countries in the Far East if they found themselves suffering from a storm by that name,” said Dr. Efraim Zuroff, director of the Jerusalem office of the Simon Wiesenthal Center.

Zuroff said there was “terrible irony” in the use of the name Israel since “the Nazis forced Jewish males who did not have what they considered to be a distinctly Jewish name to add the name Israel as a middle name.”

Abraham Foxman, national director of the Anti-Defamation League, concurred. “How about Jesus?” Foxman declared. “That’s another good Spanish name. They wouldn’t name a hurricane Jesus, would they?” As for “Adolph,” Foxman told the Jerusalem Post that “in the lifetime of [Holocaust survivors] still alive, to name anything [Adolph] by an international body is offensive and
hideous.”

The WMO’s website acknowledged that naming storms after people is a not a universal practice. Storms in Asia, for example, are not given people’s names because “the practice of naming storms, which usually bring destruction, after persons appears to run counter to Oriental sensibilities.” Thus, in the western North Pacific region, storm names are chosen from lists submitted by 14 affected countries. Most of those are animals, flowers, or astrological references.

UN officials at first refused to reconsider “Israel” or “Adolph,” on the grounds that the committee had no established mechanism for altering lists between annual meetings. In fact, at the time of the controversy, Tropical Storm Adolph was already gathering strength 250 miles southwest of the Mexican coastline.

In response to the protests, however, the WMO soon reversed itself and agreed to change “Israel” to “Ivo.” Ironically, the storm named Ivo, which appeared off the coast of Africa that August, never made it beyond the category of tropical storm and caused no damage.

Likewise, although Adolph did reach hurricane strength, it never made landfall and thus caused no damage either.

Jewish leaders chalked up another victory. But some pundits were less than sympathetic.

“It’s understandable that some Jewish leaders and worrywarts said ‘Oy Vey’ when they learned of a United Nations commission’s decision to name a hurricane ‘Israel,’” wrote Jonah Goldberg, a prominent conservative Jewish intellectual and contributing editor of National Review. “I guess it would be better if the United Nations—a notoriously anti-Israel body–hadn’t opened the possibility of headlines such as ‘Israel Wipes Out Thousands in Manila’ or ‘Miami Without Power for Second Day, Thanks to Israel.’”

“But come on,” Goldberg continued. “Jews have enough to worry about… It may be bizarre, stupid and insensitive. But is this the most important battle for Israel or Jews right now? There are actual battles taking place in Israel right now. Wailing and moaning about the politically incorrect name of a hurricane will not change that fact at all…If the National Director of the ADL can’t find an injustice greater than a misnamed hurricane, he’s not looking hard enough.”
fuck ADL nigga
 
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@Aloha who has the most appeal to foids?
 
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@Aloha who has the most appeal to foids?
Dorian is maesthetic with the broadest appeal

The other 2 would be more niche but Dorian appeals to pretty much any woman in My estimation
 
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Dorian is maesthetic with the broadest appeal

The other 2 would be more niche but Dorian appeals to pretty much any woman in My estimation
why are the other two more niche?
Was very surprised humberto got next to nothing. Thought female gaze pilled tards would vote him
 
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lorenzo mogs hard
 
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