downward growth? 13 yo

[Bianchito]

 

[waelwaywayola]

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Yes very downgrown

 

[Bianchito]

Yes very downgrown

how to fix

 

[waelwaywayola]

how to fix

Surgery wise probably lefort 1-2 with CCW rotation but softmax I would probably say hard mewing or mse with face mask

 

[Bianchito]

Surgery wise probably lefort 1-2 with CCW rotation but softmax I would probably say hard mewing or mse with face mask

so,chin tucks.neck curls,hard mewing 8 hours per day,mewing 24/7,nose breathing 24/7.this will help?

 

[Bianchito]

Surgery wise probably lefort 1-2 with CCW rotation but softmax I would probably say hard mewing or mse with face mask

ik how to do mewing so,press my tongue harder againts roof of my mounth

 

[Bianchito]

ik how to do mewing so,press my tongue harder againts roof of my mounth

?

 

[waelwaywayola]

so,chin tucks.neck curls,hard mewing 8 hours per day,mewing 24/7,nose breathing 24/7.this will help?

Chin tucks and neck curls will most likely just make it more downgrown due to the constant tension of your suprahyoid muscles. Everything else yes but you can also implement temporal chewing.

 

[waelwaywayola]

ik how to do mewing so,press my tongue harder againts roof of my mounth

Yes and also mark my answer as a solution the checkmark under my post. And rep me btw.

 

[prokop:3]

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if ur 13 dont worry about stuff like surgeries yet, you are still growing just breath through nose 24/7 (dont push it if ur sick and got stuffed nose) and just let ur tongue naturally rest on the palate and u will be fine

 

[Bianchito]

Chin tucks and neck curls will most likely just make it more downgrown due to the constant tension of your suprahyoid muscles. Everything else yes but you can also implement temporal chewing.

and chewing meat on premolars every day,this all will help me? when i will see results

 

[Bianchito]

if ur 13 dont worry about stuff like surgeries yet, you are still growing just breath through nose 24/7 (dont push it if ur sick and got stuffed nose) and just let ur tongue naturally rest on the palate and u will be fine

thank u alot

 

[waelwaywayola]

if ur 13 dont worry about stuff like surgeries yet, you are still growing just breath through nose 24/7 (dont push it if ur sick and got stuffed nose) and just let ur tongue naturally rest on the palate and u will be fine

Idk if he will be fine it depends if the sutures around his maxillia is still soft and malleable

 

[prokop:3]

Idk if he will be fine it depends if the sutures around his maxillia is still soft and malleable

well then its up to genes ig

 

[waelwaywayola]

and chewing meat on premolars every day,this all will help me? when i will see results

You can do that to learn how to use chewing muscles other than masseter muscle. You will probably see results slowly since it’s a softmaxx and your in puberty. So your puberty will do most of the work, and it also depends in which stage of puberty you are in.

 

[waelwaywayola]

well then its up to genes ig

To an extent, the genes controll how long the sutures are soft and such. So if his sutures are soft then it might be possible to reverse the down growth.

 

[Bianchito]

You can do that to learn how to use chewing muscles other than masseter muscle. You will probably see results slowly since it’s a softmaxx and your in puberty. So your puberty will do most of the work, and it also depends in which stage of puberty you are in.

tanner 2

 

[logicalpill850]

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is that a maga hat

 

[Bianchito]

Idk if he will be fine it depends if the sutures around his maxillia is still soft and malleable

i will upload my results every month here

 

[Bianchito]

is that a maga hat

No

 

[waelwaywayola]

tanner 2

Tanner 2? Ok so there might still be some hope left depending on your genetics. Just use my advice and get advice from a reputable source and you will be good

 

[Bianchito]

Tanner 2? Ok so there might still be some hope left depending on your genetics. Just use my advice and get advice from a reputable source and you will be good

yes.im finishing tanner 2 rn

 

[Bianchito]

Tanner 2? Ok so there might still be some hope left depending on your genetics. Just use my advice and get advice from a reputable source and you will be good

i have 43cm frame rn,im 166 cm

 

[livinglarp]

Surgery wise probably lefort 1-2 with CCW rotation but softmax I would probably say hard mewing or mse with face mask

Hes 13 bro braces will fix him

 

[Thomaz]

how to fix

your still young. Train your neck, do chin tucks, go to the gym and take Basic Supplements ( D3 +K2, magnesium, creatine, Boron and eat nutrient dense foods) you will see great improvements…
When you like 15 start HGH do like 3-7ui for 3 years straight

 

[waelwaywayola]

i have 43cm frame rn,im 166 cm

Maybe imo if your parents are looking too androgenous then you should hop on test 100-200mg or enclomephine.

 

[waelwaywayola]

Hes 13 bro braces will fix him

Depends what type of braces and braces won’t actually help the issue he’s dealing with and that is downward growth. He can maybe use mse with facemask and hope for the best or he can do surgeries

 

[Bianchito]

Maybe imo if your parents are looking too androgenous then you should hop on test 100-200mg or enclomephine.

why

 

[Bianchito]

your still young. Train your neck, do chin tucks, go to the gym and take Basic Supplements ( D3 +K2, magnesium, creatine, Boron and eat nutrient dense foods) you will see great improvements…
When you like 15 start HGH do like 3-7ui for 3 years straight

alr

 

[waelwaywayola]

why

Meant to say aren’t looking to androgenous

 

[waelwaywayola]

alr

Don’t listen to him he joined from a couple of weeks ago and has 4 posts with 0 reps.

 

[Bianchito]

Don’t listen to him he joined from a couple of weeks ago and has 4 posts with 0 reps.

hey,today i used mounth tap,i did mewing all night! i will ascend soon? im fine rn?

 

[Bianchito]

Don’t listen to him he joined from a couple of weeks ago and has 4 posts with 0 reps.

this is me rn! this is a good photo

 

[waelwaywayola]

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this is me rn! this is a good photo

Not bad could be better

 

[waelwaywayola]

hey,today i used mounth tap,i did mewing all night! i will ascend soon? im fine rn?

Yes youre fine it will take a long time

 

[Bianchito]

Yes youre fine it will take a long time

so,idk but in every fotoi look very diferrent
,this is high quality foto

 

[Bianchito]

Yes youre fine it will take a long time

i eat meat 1 time per day,i do mewing 24/7,nose breathing 24/7.hard mewing alot,every 3-10 sec,when i will see results

 

[ThanksForTheHGHMom]

You don't have significant downward growth. You have strong forward growth and a great eye area.

Keep breathing through your nose like everyone else has recommended to you here.

 

[fatasucell]

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yes

 

[Stegosaurus87567]

very downgrown fix haircut

 

[fatasucell]

yes

nvm

 

[Bianchito]

You don't have significant downward growth. You have strong forward growth and a great eye area.

Keep breathing through your nose like everyone else has recommended to you here.

thank u, i realy aprecciate it

 

[waelwaywayola]

i eat meat 1 time per day,i do mewing 24/7,nose breathing 24/7.hard mewing alot,every 3-10 sec,when i will see results

You will probably see results in the first 1-2 months and after that you will Get steady «gains» to your downgrowth and forward growth

 

[waelwaywayola]

View attachment 4667745 so,idk but in every fotoi look very diferrent
,this is high quality foto

Not too bad but could be better

 

[Bianchito]

You will probably see results in the first 1-2 months and after that you will Get steady «gains» to your downgrowth and forward growth

so i need to spam hard mewing

 

[Bianchito]

Not too bad but could be better

today i accidentaly sleept without mounth tape.my roof hurts

 

[ascendrx]

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Obv downward growth

 

[Bianchito]

Obv downward growth

this is better pic

 

[waelwaywayola]

today i accidentaly sleept without mounth tape.my roof hurts

Dont use mouth tape it works better without it

 

[Bianchito]

Dont use mouth tape it works better without it

but i want nose breath at night