Dr Safi and Alfaro's bimax inconsistent results

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Some of their results legit looks very good while their average ones are less impressive



Alfaro




good :

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Safi

famous Botch

we don't have much bimax cases available with Safi unfortunately.


another case by Pagnoni + supra and infra implants from Realsurgerymax :

Why does this success happens ? are the mogger ascension just because they were a good bimax candidate to begin with ? is it luck with soft tissues ?



Is bimax Russian roulette?


I'm not a big fan of these three surgeons, for bimax . i think your results is too much random.


I found Raffaini and Ramieri better , before and after more natural and more consistent overall , even if they won't make a LTN guy Chad with big jaws.

 

[panfacemogger]

Depends on so many factors,
mainly facial depth is the reason for a good bimax result.

If you have an underbite for example, it's limited, therefore your result will not be as good as someone who has a great maxilla beforehand but just needs to fix his short face with downgraft bimax, unless you get a lf2/3 or projection rhino with paransal implants.
All depends on your base, bimax is not russian roulette if the surgeon uses custom plates but of course it still has huge risks.
It's always predictable how you will look after any surgery imo.

 

[lowiqNormie]

because they have other huge failos that makes them unattractive i think like this guy eye area and hair

 

[panfacemogger]

because they have other huge failos that makes them unattractive i think like this guy eye area and hair

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His base was just beyond fucked and he's still ltn in the after, shitty facial depth, shitty gonial angle, feminine forehead, no supra bone at all, shitty undereyes, no collagen, no zygos nothing.

 

[i_love_roosters]

If you need weird reconstructive shit, it's over. It really is a Russian roulette. The only way you can ascend with surgery is if you have a good base, but only need some easy to do simple implants (jaw, chin, cheeks maybe).

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

My profile looks just like this guy from Ramieri :

i have good forehead growth and average upper maxilla but my mandible is short and recessed just like my chin ableit not dead tier.
i'm also downgrown. my mandible is a bit longer than his but not by more than 3-4mm.

that guy ascended hard in march he got custom plates + ramus widening with Ramieri. crazy how 2 mm widening can make your whole ramus and gonial angle visible.

 

[rigorous mortimer]

Alfaro has fallen out of the good graces recently of sites like these. Lots of complaints and post surgical complications covered up, routine over advancements. Idk what to think of safi other than his treatment planning software seems decent, similar to Gunson. For patients willing to see providers out of network who won’t accept insurance, I’d consult with lacoms or raffaini

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

i'm also a big fan of this other older bimax results from Ramieri , i like the fullness in upper jaw + natural looks

 

[FrenchareMedCucks]

Alfaro has fallen out of the good graces recently of sites like these. Lots of complaints and post surgical complications covered up, routine over advancements. Idk what to think of safi other than his treatment planning software seems decent, similar to Gunson. For patients willing to see providers out of network who won’t accept insurance, I’d consult with lacoms or raffaini

yes i've seen a result from a member of .org in january it was really an impressive ascension, fucking natural and harmonious,
lefort 1 area was so great looking.

 

[panfacemogger]

i'm also a big fan of this other older bimax results from Ramieri , i like the fullness in upper jaw + natural looks


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Always disliked this result, imo he didn't improve at all. Aesthetically speaking, in his case he would have needed more than just a bimax (implants, projection rhino) and since he probably won't get any other surgeries, a genio would have been the proper surgery imo. he looks even more downgrown in the after pic & the gonial angle looks completely fucked. Basically from mtn to mtn.

 

[chinmax]

Always disliked this result, imo he didn't improve at all. Aesthetically speaking, in his case he would have needed more than just a bimax (implants, projection rhino) and since he probably won't get any other surgeries, a genio would have been the proper surgery imo. he looks even more downgrown in the after pic & the gonial angle looks completely fucked. Basically from mtn to mtn.

This only isnt considered a botch cuz before was subhuman tier

 

[mlffff]

Stay away from Safi at all costs.

Safi is a scam artist surgeon who is amazing at manipulating naive people to have surgery with him. He invests all his energy into convincing people. He is a terrible surgeon with no skill.

Safi has ruined a good friend of mine. Left him with a terrible aesthetic result and severe nerve damage. My friend now can't feel his tongue. He speaks with a lisp and can't taste anymore. He looks terrible.

Safi drilled through both his lingual nerves during the bimax, which left him with a numb tongue. The lingual nerves cannot be repaired. He also used cheap jaw angle implants which cracked during the surgery.

Safi didn't want to release the surgical report or post operative cbct scan. He was forced to though after a lawyers intervention.

Two of Safis patients reached out to me complaining about a fake look and nerve damage after his bimaxes.

Sailers assistant showed proof of another two of Safis patients coming to Sailer a week after surgery to correct a failed bimax.

The surgeons to go for are: Raffaini or Ramieri for jaw surgery and Pagnoni if you want imppants. Look no further than this.
These three surgeons have pride I their work and will definitely Not botch you.

Don't be a naive child and believe Safis manipulating tactic. Safi is in a rush to get rich and will ruin you. He is a con artist surgeon.

 

[Meister!]

yes i've seen a result from a member of .org in january it was really an impressive ascension, fucking natural and harmonious,
lefort 1 area was so great looking.

The surgery was performed by whom? Do you have any pictures?

 

[DeformedCell]

Stay away from Safi at all costs.

Safi is a scam artist surgeon who is amazing at manipulating naive people to have surgery with him. He invests all his energy into convincing people. He is a terrible surgeon with no skill.

Safi has ruined a good friend of mine. Left him with a terrible aesthetic result and severe nerve damage. My friend now can't feel his tongue. He speaks with a lisp and can't taste anymore. He looks terrible.

Safi drilled through both his lingual nerves during the bimax, which left him with a numb tongue. The lingual nerves cannot be repaired. He also used cheap jaw angle implants which cracked during the surgery.

Safi didn't want to release the surgical report or post operative cbct scan. He was forced to though after a lawyers intervention.

Two of Safis patients reached out to me complaining about a fake look and nerve damage after his bimaxes.

Sailers assistant showed proof of another two of Safis patients coming to Sailer a week after surgery to correct a failed bimax.

The surgeons to go for are: Raffaini or Ramieri for jaw surgery and Pagnoni if you want imppants. Look no further than this.
These three surgeons have pride I their work and will definitely Not botch you.

Don't be a naive child and believe Safis manipulating tactic. Safi is in a rush to get rich and will ruin you. He is a con artist surgeon.

Maybe if you weren't copy apsting the same stuff on every single thread but actually providing some proofs?