Dr. Safi - Custom Designed Saddle Infraorbital Implants + Jaw implants - Initial Proposal

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I also plan to get a Trimax (possibly high wing or quadrangular Lefort I) + paranasal augmentation w/ lyophilized cartilage. I'll be speaking with Dr. Safi and his designer sometime this week or early next week.
 
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Really nice implant design
 
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Really nice implant design
I'm glad to hear it. I'm pretty new to this stuff, so feedback is crucial. As I alluded in the title, the paranasal portion of the implant will likely be replaced with lyophilized cartilage. Dr. Safi said this is likely ideal since PEEK paranasal implants can look uncanny.
 
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I have already consulted a few doctors about implants but I think the design I see in your pics looks really good. I will also make a consultation for implants with him.
 
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How much did he quote you for this?

Also, my bimax completely reversed my paranasal deficiency, like it went from concave to convex, just a regular cut Lefort. I even said to surgeons before "I feel like this area is like a black hole." I would wait until you get bimax before you start planning paranasal implants.
 
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does Safi design supra and browridge implants too?

he seems like a real alternative to pagnoni and RSM design

Safi for bimax+ midface infra and Pagnoni for Browridge + supra implants seems the way to go
 
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How much did he quote you for this?

Also, my bimax completely reversed my paranasal deficiency, like it went from concave to convex, just a regular cut Lefort. I even said to surgeons before "I feel like this area is like a black hole." I would wait until you get bimax before you start planning paranasal implants.
No quote yet, but I'm expecting to pay 35-40k CHF which is around 38 - 42k USD
 
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How much did he quote you for this?

Also, my bimax completely reversed my paranasal deficiency, like it went from concave to convex, just a regular cut Lefort. I even said to surgeons before "I feel like this area is like a black hole." I would wait until you get bimax before you start planning paranasal implants.
Thanks for the advice. I'll definitely discuss this more w/ Safi. I'll likely still get the lyophilized cartilage since I have a decent amount of midface hypoplasia
 
does Safi design supra and browridge implants too?

he seems like a real alternative to pagnoni and RSM design

Safi for bimax+ midface infra and Pagnoni for Browridge + supra implants seems the way to go
I believe so. I mentioned that I would like a custom forehead + supraorbital implant and the designer/Safi said they would draft up some designs
 
Why is the jaw implant going so far up the mandible? its almost at your tmj?
 
What's the lower bit by the paranasal area on your left side? (Right in pic)
What asymmetry is it
 
What's the lower bit by the paranasal area on your left side? (Right in pic)
What asymmetry is it
I can't recall the exact reason, but I vaguely remember Safi and his designer saying it's because the left paranasal area has more hypoplasia than the other. I'll have to review my screen recording
 
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I can't recall the exact reason, but I vaguely remember Safi and his designer saying it's because the left paranasal area has more hypoplasia than the other. I'll have to review my screen recording
I think mine does too, which is annoying. I'll probably get paranasal implants one day
 
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@RealSurgerymax is this a real alternative to you ?
 
I can't recall the exact reason, but I vaguely remember Safi and his designer saying it's because the left paranasal area has more hypoplasia than the other. I'll have to review my screen recording
the only thing I would say is I have never ever seen that before done ever, and by definition that makes me a bit sceptical / nervous
 
I'd like to see Safi's designer's implant design for supra orbitals and compare it to RealSurgeryMax's one.

I like Pagnoni but I need bigger movements for chin and lower jaw.
 
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I feel like it has too much projection at the sub malar region, if you have seen designs of male cheekbones, most people get them at the malar area. With the submalar region, saggital projection would lead to feminine results (often bloating). Check it with him.
 
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I feel like it has too much projection at the sub malar region, if you have seen designs of male cheekbones, most people get them at the malar area. With the submalar region, saggital projection would lead to feminine results (often bloating). Check it with him.
I see what you mean. Thanks for the feedback. I'll let the designer know. What about designs like these?

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I see what you mean. Thanks for the feedback. I'll let the designer know. What about designs like these?

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The Jaw will look too uncanny in person man, because of the crazy outward gonions and really sharp jaw. You want a tiny bit of asymmetry too. The infra area looks good. As for the Zygos, I feel like it can be better, cuz the peak of the mass is too lateral. You don't want to cover too much of the submalar region, just enough to make the result seamless (and look like an actual cheekbone lol).
I'd say: ask for consultations (free ones) from many surgeons and ask to see results and their designs. After a few you'll see kinda how small changes here and there affect the actual face (ofc doesn't work all the time though, due to not knowing how soft tissue will react).
 
Unrelated but can't implants cause bone damage over time?
 
The Jaw will look too uncanny in person man, because of the crazy outward gonions and really sharp jaw. You want a tiny bit of asymmetry too. The infra area looks good. As for the Zygos, I feel like it can be better, cuz the peak of the mass is too lateral. You don't want to cover too much of the submalar region, just enough to make the result seamless (and look like an actual cheekbone lol).
I'd say: ask for consultations (free ones) from many surgeons and ask to see results and their designs. After a few you'll see kinda how small changes here and there affect the actual face (ofc doesn't work all the time though, due to not knowing how soft tissue will react).
Yeah, the gonians are too much ngl, I was just using the pic as a reference for the malar/infraorbital implants
 
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I'd like to see Safi's designer's implant design for supra orbitals and compare it to RealSurgeryMax's one.

I like Pagnoni but I need bigger movements for chin and lower jaw.
just ask him to do more then (pagnoni)
 
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I also plan to get a Trimax (possibly high wing or quadrangular Lefort I) + paranasal augmentation w/ lyophilized cartilage. I'll be speaking with Dr. Safi and his designer sometime this week or early next week.

Btw do you have pictures of the finished design?
I assume that they made you 2 different cheek implant proposals, one design proposal on the left and another design proposal on the right side. It would be great if you could give me more information about it
 
Holy shit just for infra and jaw implants ?
No, it was for Trimax + implants. Didn't end up going to Safi bc was expensive AF and also discovered he botches people.
 
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mirin hard. true looksmaxxer. this exact surgery would genuinely ascend me aswell, gonions and undereye are my biggest failos
 
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Design is horrible
Your midface would end up looking bloated
Plus Safi is a scammer

Glad you dodged the bullet.
 
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Design is horrible
Your midface would end up looking bloated
Plus Safi is a scammer

Glad you dodged the bullet.
I absolutely did. Thank the lord I didn’t go with him JFL
 
Forward growth? Not found
This implant? Won't do SHIT.
 
OP, i got a good infra and forehead design that turned out really good. I wanna get jaw angles, so we can exchange info if you want
I’m interested! Feel free to DM!
 
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Forward growth? Not found
This implant? Won't do SHIT.
my upper midface is okay irl, but I definitely have flaws like scerlal show and NCT, but my PFL, eye spacing, and soft features save me a bit. Will hopefully be getting bimax soon
 
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my upper midface is okay irl, but I definitely have flaws like scerlal show and NCT, but my PFL, eye spacing, and soft features save me a bit. Will hopefully be getting bimax soon
So did you get any surgery in half a year or are you still coping?
 
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I’m getting trimax + periorbital implants in a few months with Giant + Celal.
So you literally didn't do anything since October of last year?
 
It's over, man. You wasted a year on nothing bro. I'm sorry.
JFL. You’re funny, bro. I already have a Trimax VSP from @RealSurgerymax. Just waiting on the rest, but he’s currently swamped with several cases at the moment, so it will take time. I don’t mind waiting since I have things to keep me busy in the meantime.
 
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I also plan to get a Trimax (possibly high wing or quadrangular Lefort I) + paranasal augmentation w/ lyophilized cartilage. I'll be speaking with Dr. Safi and his designer sometime this week or early next week.
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If your plan doesn’t include maxillary impaction it’ll always be over for you, regardless of what you do.

Feel free to dm me the plan, I can review it

Well you got uber lucky cuz that guy never answered the dozens of messages i sent him.
Look at what he said tho:
but he’s currently swamped with several cases at the moment, so it will take time.
not sure this counts as really getting in contact 💀
 
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If your plan doesn’t include maxillary impaction it’ll always be over for you, regardless of what you do.

Feel free to dm me the plan, I can review it


Look what he said tho:

not sure this counts as really getting in contact 💀

I Pm'd giansts over a year ago, this guy couldn't even send me a paypal link to i could wire him money for the consult. It's a joke really.
 
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I absolutely did. Thank the lord I didn’t go with him JFL
Yeah going with Giant will be far safer, cheaper and effective. I am impressed you were able to reach him as supposedly its impossible to make contact with him.
 
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I Pm'd giansts over a year ago, this guy couldn't even send me a paypal link to i could wire him money for the consult. It's a joke really.
I can't believe people take him seriously. And that I used to (to an extent). For me it was more desperation rather than actual trust
 
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I can't believe people take him seriously. And that I used to (to an extent). For me it was more desperation rather than actual trust

He didnd't even answer me when i asked what he actually did for a living and what kind of medical qualifications he had. He's just a CAD designer or something?
 
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He didnd't even answer me when i asked what he actually did for a living and what kind of medical qualifications he had. He's just a CAD designer or something?
Yes, which is probably why he arranged a "partnership" in turkey, due to regulations elsewhere I'm guessing.
 
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