Dutasteride SIDES / nipples hurt

[powerliftercoco]

Guys I need help, please read before replying and I'll mark you as solution if you have insight ;(

When I first started TRT my nipples (only the nipples, important) started burning and my face bloated, consulted many places online and they said it was "hormonal fluctuations ", but it was obviously high E2 and I developed a tiny pea sized lump (invisible to everyone) in my right nipple VERY STUPID MISTAKE I KNOW. My E2 at the time was 44. After correcting the protocol I felt amazing for months and my E2 came back at 29pg/mL, no sides at all. During this time I was on Dut 0.5mg 3 times per week, pinning test daily, everything good.

10 days ago I upped the Dutasteride to 1mg daily even doing 2mg a few days, and for the past 3 days my right nipple where the lump is has been hurting a shit ton, but a deep pain in the lump it's weird, and my chest tingles (yes, my chest and not my nipple). It doesn't hurt to the touch, doesn't burn, face is not bloated (in fact I'm dry as shit), and tested E2 on monday and it is 27pg/mL.

Serum DHT decreases very fast, it happens in a few days in the studies, and at those dosages it goes from around 85% serum DHT reduction to around 95%, maybe more.

It doesn't feel like the first time the gyno popped, so the questions are:

Could the LOWER SERUM DHT make the SAME VALUE OF E2 be dangerous now, when it previously was a SAFE ZONE? Since there is less androgenic/estrogenic action at the nipple.

Or is this hormonal fluctuation and will go away by it's own? I've consulted online and people seem to get the chest tingles too, maybe it's a side that resolves on it's own but I don't wanna risk my gyno getting bigger and end up becoming noticeable.

I did get lower libido for 3 days at the start, went away now it's even higher. Got testicle pain for a few days in the middle and it went away. I know most of the sides just go away when the body adapts, but I never see shit about this and I fucked it up hard like a retard the first time around.

 

[aids]

Bonesmash your nipples.

 

[aids]

Jk lemme read.

 

[aids]

I'd up the AI and then go from there.
Better to be cautious (lowering E2 to a still-okay concentration) than just LDAR and let shit get potentially worse.

 

[camondo88]

at least you can still get hard. count your blessings bro and stop whining

 

[powerliftercoco]

I'd up the AI and then go from there.
Better to be cautious (lowering E2 to a still-okay concentration) than just LDAR and let shit get potentially worse.

Yeah I doubled my AI monday and tuesday tbh hahaha and took tamoxifen yesterday at night cuz it's been hurting.

 

[powerliftercoco]

at least you can still get hard. count your blessings bro and stop whining

brah can u just delete your account

put me on ignore please

 

[powerliftercoco]

@m0ss26 @chadisbeingmade @axon @SlayerJonas any help appreciated guys

 

[powerliftercoco]

Bump (

 

[camondo88]

brah can u just delete your account

put me on ignore please

im sorry. ready to just squash our beef if you are too.

more info needed, like labs, age, cycle history etc. but for what it's worth i don't think this will go away on it's own. have you looked into or tried nolvadex?

 

[axon]

Guys I need help, please read before replying and I'll mark you as solution if you have insight ;(

When I first started TRT my nipples (only the nipples, important) started burning and my face bloated, consulted many places online and they said it was "hormonal fluctuations ", but it was obviously high E2 and I developed a tiny pea sized lump (invisible to everyone) in my right nipple VERY STUPID MISTAKE I KNOW. My E2 at the time was 44. After correcting the protocol I felt amazing for months and my E2 came back at 29pg/mL, no sides at all. During this time I was on Dut 0.5mg 3 times per week, pinning test daily, everything good.

10 days ago I upped the Dutasteride to 1mg daily even doing 2mg a few days, and for the past 3 days my right nipple where the lump is has been hurting a shit ton, but a deep pain in the lump it's weird, and my chest tingles (yes, my chest and not my nipple). It doesn't hurt to the touch, doesn't burn, face is not bloated (in fact I'm dry as shit), and tested E2 on monday and it is 27pg/mL.

Serum DHT decreases very fast, it happens in a few days in the studies, and at those dosages it goes from around 85% serum DHT reduction to around 95%, maybe more.

It doesn't feel like the first time the gyno popped, so the questions are:

Could the LOWER SERUM DHT make the SAME VALUE OF E2 be dangerous now, when it previously was a SAFE ZONE? Since there is less androgenic/estrogenic action at the nipple.

Or is this hormonal fluctuation and will go away by it's own? I've consulted online and people seem to get the chest tingles too, maybe it's a side that resolves on it's own but I don't wanna risk my gyno getting bigger and end up becoming noticeable.

I did get lower libido for 3 days at the start, went away now it's even higher. Got testicle pain for a few days in the middle and it went away. I know most of the sides just go away when the body adapts, but I never see shit about this and I fucked it up hard like a retard the first time around.

I don’t think the DUT has to do something with it, even tho it crushes DHT almost instantly.

When i first started DUT 0,5mg 2 years ago i also started getting a lump around 3 months in. I panicked, switched to FIN and it went away (and yes it was gyno, no fat tissue).
Then i got leaner, startet DUT again and no Gyno issues.

But the point is it took weeks for the formation of the lump and its usually the case for DUT users who experience Gyno.

Nonetheless, Libido changes can happen within the first day.

So if you ask me it should resolve on its own. Your body probably does some adaptation or it’s something else that’s causing it. But most certainly not the DUT.
Also its weird that you got no other high E2 symptoms which proves my point as well

Just in case inspect your gyno everyday and if u notice sth growing than u can re-evaluate.

Still options to blast ralox/tamox and reverse it in an early state

If u want to be safe then use a SERM like Tamoxifen at 10mg ED till the weird symptoms go away. This will 100% take care of this „little flair up“ in ur breast

Thats my opinion i can be wrong tho

 

[edodalic29]

u good bro?

 

[powerliftercoco]

I don’t think the DUT has to do something with it, even tho it crushes DHT almost instantly.

When i first started DUT 0,5mg 2 years ago i also started getting a lump around 3 months in. I panicked, switched to FIN and it went away (and yes it was gyno, no fat tissue).
Then i got leaner, startet DUT again and no Gyno issues.

But the point is it took weeks for the formation of the lump and its usually the case for DUT users who experience Gyno.

Nonetheless, Libido changes can happen within the first day.

So if you ask me it should resolve on its own. Your body probably does some adaptation or it’s something else that’s causing it. But most certainly not the DUT.
Also its weird that you got no other high E2 symptoms which proves my point as well

Just in case inspect your gyno everyday and if u notice sth growing than u can re-evaluate.

Still options to blast ralox/tamox and reverse it in an early state

If u want to be safe then use a SERM like Tamoxifen at 10mg ED till the weird symptoms go away. This will 100% take care of this „little flair up“ in ur breast

Thats my opinion i can be wrong tho

I used Tamox when I first got my lump months ago from actual E2. It stopped it completely until I figured I actually had high E2, but never reversed it even though I kept using it for a while.

I actually think that there is not enough androgenic action at the nipple (from DHT) compared to estrogenic. And since I’m gyno prone, now that my DHT lowered even more, the same value of E2 that was safe now is causing problems. Will let my DHT climb back up even if it takes a bit, idk how long it will take.

I will stop Dut for a while and then go back to my lower dose which didn’t give me problems. I just got Raloxifene, will try to reverse it and go from there. If it does reverse it and then I fuck up again by upping Dut dose then I’ll know I can reverse it again and try again.

I won’t surrender.

 

[powerliftercoco]

u good bro?

Fuck bro I thought this shit was gonna be easier, you can’t have it all

I thought I could block all DHT, keep my E2 in a good range without the need to crush it and have sky high test but something ends up giving.

I’ll keep experimenting, there has to be a balance somewhere. I’ll try to find it.

 

[powerliftercoco]

I don’t think any solution is 100% correct but it’s a complicated topic so I’ll just give one out already.

I’ll try things out and change my protocol around. Thanks to those who answered.