Ephedrine/ECA Stack is a weight loss/quickcutting miracle drug

[Callooh_Calais]

Ephedrine is banned in most Western nations when used in diet supplementation (mostly because some stupid homos with body dysphoria would pop +200mg multiple times daily until they had heat stroke from elevated blood pressure/exercising in hot weather), yet is still available over-the-counter in cough medicine (It used to be available here under the name ChestEze, in America I think it's called Primatene) in adequately sized doses; When taken in combination with caffeine, it has a synergistic effect that leads to rapid weight loss by kicking up the base metabolic rate to 11:

The safety and efficacy of a mixture of ephedrine (75-150mg), caffeine (150mg) and aspirin (330mg), in divided premeal doses, were investigated in 24 obese humans (mean BMI 37.0) in a randomized double blind placebo-controlled trial. Energy intake was not restricted. Overall weight loss over 8 weeks was 2.2kg for ECA vs. 0.7 kg for placebo (p < 0.05). 8 of 13 placebo subjects returned 5 months later and received ECA in an unblinded crossover. After 8 weeks, mean weight loss with ECA was 3.2 kg vs 1.3 kg for placebo (p = 0.036). 6 subjects continued on ECA for 7 to 26 months. After 5 months on ECA, average weight loss in 5 of these was 5.2 kg compared to 0.03 kg gained during 5 months between studies with no intervention (p = 0.03). The sixth subject lost 66 kg over 13 months by self-imposed caloric restriction. In all studies, no significant changes in heart rate, blood pressure, blood glucose, insulin, and cholesterol levels, and no differences in the frequency of side effects were found. ECA in these doses is thus well tolerated in otherwise healthy obese subjects, and supports modest, sustained weight loss even without prescribed caloric restriction, and may be more effective in conjunction with restriction of energy intake.

You got that? Fatties were eating uncontrolled diets without doing any exercise, and still lost weight while the non-ephedrine group actually ended up stagnant/gaining over that same 5 month period: Truly this drug is a panacea when it comes to dietary issues, which must explain why the US government had to ban it, since it makes too much sense.

From a personal perspective, I've cut my weight very quickly, going from 104kg to 99kg in roughly 10-12 days; You have zero appetite for anything on this stuff, and exercise suddenly becomes your new passion (the one complaint that I would have is it doesn't seem to work very well with sexual activity, but then I imagine a lot of people here aren't having much given the the posts--alas, for those who do, it can really put a hamper in your sex life). I'm not a doctor of course, but it's highly recommended.

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Bump

 

[hypergamy]

Interesting. You sure you didn’t lose muscle tissue?

I think this would be useful, 4+ weeks into a cut. Where the hunger really starts to catch up to you.

 

[ChickenAndRiceBrah]

ECA is a great stack, tbh no need for the aspirin component if you're natty or even just trt/cruising

 

[Callooh_Calais]

Interesting. You sure you didn’t lose muscle tissue?

I think this would be useful, 4+ weeks into a cut. Where the hunger really starts to catch up to you.

My weight loss has slowed; I've only lost an additional 3kg since posting, but It definitely seems to be all fat (and the medical science I posted above seems to confirm that ephedrine seems to focus the body's metabolism to burn fat instead of lean tissue) as my on/off girl told me that I look 'tighter' like I've been working out, even though my routine hasn't changed in a few months.

ECA is great. I just can't believe this shit was banned because of a few idiots

 

[Callooh_Calais]

From the link above:

ECA in these doses is thus well tolerated in otherwise healthy obese subjects, and supports modest, sustained weight loss even without prescribed caloric restriction, and may be more effective in conjunction with restriction of energy intake.

Multiple studies confirm these findings, search the NIH website (a treasure trove of primary scientific evidence) for more on ECA stack's efficacy against weight stagnation: they give it to post-bariatric surgery recipients in order to keep their metabolisms high and weight loss progressing while eating such a low amount of food (this curiosity about how bariatic patients lose weight post-op is how I discovered ECA stack, actually)

 

[Paroxysm]

clen + ephedrine is fucking amazing

 

[TsarTsar444]

It doesn't increase metabolism to any significant amount lol, they lost weight even with no caloric restriction because it simply makes you not hungry, not because they ate the same amount of food

 

[Cali Yuga]

just eat healthy and its impossible to be fat

 

[PrinceLuenLeoncur]

Ephedrine is banned in most Western nations when used in diet supplementation (mostly because some stupid homos with body dysphoria would pop +200mg multiple times daily until they had heat stroke from elevated blood pressure/exercising in hot weather), yet is still available over-the-counter in cough medicine (It used to be available here under the name ChestEze, in America I think it's called Primatene) in adequately sized doses; When taken in combination with caffeine, it has a synergistic effect that leads to rapid weight loss by kicking up the base metabolic rate to 11:



You got that? Fatties were eating uncontrolled diets without doing any exercise, and still lost weight while the non-ephedrine group actually ended up stagnant/gaining over that same 5 month period: Truly this drug is a panacea when it comes to dietary issues, which must explain why the US government had to ban it, since it makes too much sense.

From a personal perspective, I've cut my weight very quickly, going from 104kg to 99kg in roughly 10-12 days; You have zero appetite for anything on this stuff, and exercise suddenly becomes your new passion (the one complaint that I would have is it doesn't seem to work very well with sexual activity, but then I imagine a lot of people here aren't having much given the the posts--alas, for those who do, it can really put a hamper in your sex life). I'm not a doctor of course, but it's highly recommended.

Time for me to hop on this

 

[Callooh_Calais]

About to drop the dox, as here is a plethora of hard evidence that EC cuts fat without any expense to lean tissue:

Ephedra-containing weight-loss supplements were widely used in the 1990s. Caffeine was combined with ephedrine, the most potent isomer of the four ephedra isomers, to stimulate weight loss pharmacologically, and it was an approved combination weight loss drug in Denmark for over a decade (3). A meta-analysis of clinical trials concluded that ephedrine and ephedra enhanced weight loss 0.9 kg/month above the amount lost with placebo in trials lasting up to 6 months (4). In a pilot study we performed at Pennington Biomedical Research Center, female subjects were treated with either caffeine and ephedrine (n = 6) or fenfluramine and mazindol or phentermine (n = 14) for 6-9 months. Both groups lost weight, but the caffeine/ephedrine group experienced no loss of lean tissue mass (unpublished data) suggesting that caffeine/ephedrine might preferentially preserve lean tissue mass during weight loss.

Another study:

Results: Groups treated with CE and LCE lost significant amounts of weight (-5.9 ± 1.2% and -6.5 ± 1.1%, P < 0.05) and whole body fat mass (-9.6 ± 2.4% and -12.4 ± 2.3%, P < 0.05) compared to leptin only group. Only treatment with LCE significantly reduced visceral fat mass (-11.0 ± 3.3%, P < 0.05). There were no differences in lean mass between treatment groups.

Conclusions: Our study provides evidence that CE is a modestly effective weight loss agent and produces significant reductions in fat mass. Leptin A-200 was not effective in producing weight loss and did not have any significant additive or synergistic actions when combined with CE.

(the previous linked study also mentions that leptin generally has results that aren't too dissimilar from EC stack in terms of maintenance of lean muscle tissue, but generally has no added benefit and is not synergistic with EC)

Another study:

Results: Twenty-eight individuals were randomised and consented to the study. Twenty-three completed the trial and only these participants were included in the final analyses. After 28 days of treatment, the active group lost a significant amount of total body fat (placebo 1.1 ± 0.3 kg, ephedrine -0.9 ± 0.5 kg; p < 0.01) and visceral fat (placebo 6.4 ± 19.1 g, ephedrine -134 ± 43 g; p < 0.01), with no change in lean mass or bone mineral content compared with the placebo group. In response to acute ephedrine, BAT activity (change in mean standardised uptake value: placebo -3 ± 7%, ephedrine -22 ± 6%) and the increase in systolic blood pressure were significantly reduced (p < 0.05) in the active group compared with placebo.

Conclusions/interpretation: Chronic ephedrine treatment reduced body fat content, but this was not associated with an increase in BAT activity. Rather, chronic ephedrine suppressed BAT glucose disposal, suggesting that chronic ephedrine treatment decreased, rather than increased, BAT activity.

(In the above context, 'BAT' stands for Brown Adipose Tissue, a form of body fat)

Translation? Ephedrine will cut bodyfat without leading to an increased accumulation of fat around the organs and lean tissue, and shows an overall significant drop (this study seems to be an outlier, as most studies mention a mere 'modest' drop) in not only weight, but systolic (i.e, heartbeat) blood pressure.

And you thought I was joking when I said it was a miracle drug?

Another study:

Objective: To investigate the hypothesis that the peripheral actions of caffeine and ephedrine to increase sympathetic tone and metabolic rate and to preserve lean tissue will cause weight loss in patients with hypothalamic obesity.

Methods: We present 3 case studies of consecutive patients who presented with hypothalamic obesity and were treated with caffeine (200 mg) and ephedrine hydrochloride (25 mg) 3 times a day.

Results: All patients were gaining weight at the time of initial assessment. The first patient lost 8% to 9% of her body weight and maintained that loss for the subsequent 2 years. The second patient lost 18.8% of her body weight and was maintaining a 9.5% weight loss after 6 years. The third patient lost 14% of her body weight during a 6-month period and gradually returned to her baseline weight during a period of 5 years, after which she was referred for bariatric surgical treatment.

Conclusion: These 3 patients with hypothalamic obesity, who had been steadily gaining weight, lost a mean of 13.9% of their body weight, and 2 of them maintained weight loss for a period of years. Thus, caffeine and ephedrine appeared to halt weight gain and maintain a clinically significant weight loss in 2 of our 3 patients. A randomized clinical trial to confirm these findings would be appropriate but difficult because of the rarity of this disorder.

Ephedrine is the cure for Fatarse Syndrome which is why they banned it, pass the word on

 

[frendly]

My weight loss has slowed; I've only lost an additional 3kg since posting, but It definitely seems to be all fat (and the medical science I posted above seems to confirm that ephedrine seems to focus the body's metabolism to burn fat instead of lean tissue) as my on/off girl told me that I look 'tighter' like I've been working out, even though my routine hasn't changed in a few months.

ECA is great. I just can't believe this shit was banned because of a few idiots

Where can I buy

 

[frendly]

clen + ephedrine is fucking amazing

Where can I buy?

 

[Adamsmith12345]

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