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It is no secret to anyone who lurks around these forums for any time at all, that there are some very mentally damaged men here. I’m not saying this as a criticism of them, I’m saying this out of concern- I mean men who are damaging to themselves.
Men who, since coming into the blackpill, have seen their confidence sink so low that even with well above average face and height (abettermii and native are two of many examples), they absolutely freak out- they believe themselves to be abominations, and see only hopelessness for their future.
These examples are just the more striking ones. To be quite honest, if you look across the range of posts and threads, I don’t think it’s unfair to say that the vast majority of men’s mental health and social confidence declines significantly upon ‘taking the blackpill’, regardless of whether they ascend aesthetically or not.
I myself find myself in this predicament. I have done an admirable job in the past 2.5 years ascending myself from obese abomination, to pleasant MTN. I generally get good reactions from women who are not ‘prime JBs’, and even a few decent ones from them. Sometimes when I look in the mirror before I go out, I am surprised at how decent I look. Surprised mainly, because inside I often feel like a dirty, pathetic, tiny abomination. Thoughts and emotions pointing to this run through my head a lot, meanwhile all I’m doing on the outside is getting bigger from weight training, my hair getting thicker from Fin, and dressing better. I am ascending externally, while becoming more afraid, detached and confidence-deficient internally. I’ve become someone who logically should be able to get a girlfriend (atleast an ethnic one a bit closer to my age),but that has become less and less of a possibility in my own mind, EVEN LESS SO THAN WHEN I WAS AN OBESE ABOMINATION 30 MONTHS AGO WHO ARRIVED AT THIS FORUM.
Again, looking at the array of threads and posts on all subsections of this forum (not to mention the other one that was shut a few months ago), I would say this is a reasonably common experience.
The question then has to be asked- Why?
And is this fixable, or are most of us doomed?
Why does blackpill screw your mental health and social confidence?
I’m just gonna write my opinion of the cuff.
It’s because it makes you identify with the physical world too much, rather than focus on deeper, more fulfilling and meaningful things.
In a ‘stable’ society where marriage/sex is guaranteed, men's base physical needs are satisfied,, so they can get to work bringing value to society, having a sense of community and goodwill, higher purpose, connection to God etc.
Blackpill has got us fucked up, unable to allow ourselves to experience these higher states, because we are so insecure about not getting our base physical needs met.
So, like children, blackpillers stay at this juvenile, materialistic level, never considering things on offer in life that are even more fulfilling.
In a lot of ways, we are as mentally unhealthy and shallow as our female counterparts, ‘ultra hypergamous JBs’.
I also believe there is a spiritual intention to looksmaxxing- a search In the young man on the forum for meaning, for the divine.
‘I want to be the perfect Chad, the perfect representation of goodness and beauty’.
Of course they refer to ‘PSL Gods’, men who have attained this divine state.
Again, the problem with this is that it only focusses on the physical, not the deeper, richer elements of the human experience (Connection, family, generosity, being lost in the moment, community etc).
It will never give you the feeling you’re looking for.
What are men really striving for?
So if ‘Chad’ is the ideal physical state, what is the ideal mental/emotional state, the state of perfection, of happiness?
It is the state of total acceptance.
The state of being accepting of everything you can’t control, of realizing that nothing that happens outside of you, can change who you are. It can’t affect you in the present moment.
Happiness, believe it or not, is found in the present moment.
There are times when I am finishing a weight session at 3am, alone in the gym, and I’m euphoric.
Times when I’m creating, like with this essay, and I need nothing outside of me.
Times where I’ve connected with family, done something good visiting my parents on a Sunday, made my sister laugh, and I have nothing I desire in the world.
Sex, women, validation or materialism cannot add to this or take from this. It is relatively meaningless to you having a blissful, peaceful present moment.
Ultimately, if we are going to delve into the ‘blackpill’ of how hollow human nature can be, it has to be accompanied by a sense of acceptance and ‘letting go’. Surely if we know the truth is unchangeable, we shouldn’t waste time getting worked up over it?
This is the only way of successfully ‘graduating’ the blackpill, or not being destroyed by it, in my opinion.
You have to accept everything, and be truly OK with it.
Nothing that happens to you on the external makes any difference to your internal state, to your present moment.
It is all meaningless, it is all empty.
If you can truly internalize this, then perhaps, matched with your looksmaxxing and aesthetic improvements, you might actually be able to go out and live a successful and peaceful life.
This essay was extremely off the cuff, I just wanted to get it out there. Would love to hear your discussion and feedback.
Men who, since coming into the blackpill, have seen their confidence sink so low that even with well above average face and height (abettermii and native are two of many examples), they absolutely freak out- they believe themselves to be abominations, and see only hopelessness for their future.
These examples are just the more striking ones. To be quite honest, if you look across the range of posts and threads, I don’t think it’s unfair to say that the vast majority of men’s mental health and social confidence declines significantly upon ‘taking the blackpill’, regardless of whether they ascend aesthetically or not.
I myself find myself in this predicament. I have done an admirable job in the past 2.5 years ascending myself from obese abomination, to pleasant MTN. I generally get good reactions from women who are not ‘prime JBs’, and even a few decent ones from them. Sometimes when I look in the mirror before I go out, I am surprised at how decent I look. Surprised mainly, because inside I often feel like a dirty, pathetic, tiny abomination. Thoughts and emotions pointing to this run through my head a lot, meanwhile all I’m doing on the outside is getting bigger from weight training, my hair getting thicker from Fin, and dressing better. I am ascending externally, while becoming more afraid, detached and confidence-deficient internally. I’ve become someone who logically should be able to get a girlfriend (atleast an ethnic one a bit closer to my age),but that has become less and less of a possibility in my own mind, EVEN LESS SO THAN WHEN I WAS AN OBESE ABOMINATION 30 MONTHS AGO WHO ARRIVED AT THIS FORUM.
Again, looking at the array of threads and posts on all subsections of this forum (not to mention the other one that was shut a few months ago), I would say this is a reasonably common experience.
The question then has to be asked- Why?
And is this fixable, or are most of us doomed?
Why does blackpill screw your mental health and social confidence?
I’m just gonna write my opinion of the cuff.
It’s because it makes you identify with the physical world too much, rather than focus on deeper, more fulfilling and meaningful things.
In a ‘stable’ society where marriage/sex is guaranteed, men's base physical needs are satisfied,, so they can get to work bringing value to society, having a sense of community and goodwill, higher purpose, connection to God etc.
Blackpill has got us fucked up, unable to allow ourselves to experience these higher states, because we are so insecure about not getting our base physical needs met.
So, like children, blackpillers stay at this juvenile, materialistic level, never considering things on offer in life that are even more fulfilling.
In a lot of ways, we are as mentally unhealthy and shallow as our female counterparts, ‘ultra hypergamous JBs’.
I also believe there is a spiritual intention to looksmaxxing- a search In the young man on the forum for meaning, for the divine.
‘I want to be the perfect Chad, the perfect representation of goodness and beauty’.
Of course they refer to ‘PSL Gods’, men who have attained this divine state.
Again, the problem with this is that it only focusses on the physical, not the deeper, richer elements of the human experience (Connection, family, generosity, being lost in the moment, community etc).
It will never give you the feeling you’re looking for.
What are men really striving for?
So if ‘Chad’ is the ideal physical state, what is the ideal mental/emotional state, the state of perfection, of happiness?
It is the state of total acceptance.
The state of being accepting of everything you can’t control, of realizing that nothing that happens outside of you, can change who you are. It can’t affect you in the present moment.
Happiness, believe it or not, is found in the present moment.
There are times when I am finishing a weight session at 3am, alone in the gym, and I’m euphoric.
Times when I’m creating, like with this essay, and I need nothing outside of me.
Times where I’ve connected with family, done something good visiting my parents on a Sunday, made my sister laugh, and I have nothing I desire in the world.
Sex, women, validation or materialism cannot add to this or take from this. It is relatively meaningless to you having a blissful, peaceful present moment.
Ultimately, if we are going to delve into the ‘blackpill’ of how hollow human nature can be, it has to be accompanied by a sense of acceptance and ‘letting go’. Surely if we know the truth is unchangeable, we shouldn’t waste time getting worked up over it?
This is the only way of successfully ‘graduating’ the blackpill, or not being destroyed by it, in my opinion.
You have to accept everything, and be truly OK with it.
Nothing that happens to you on the external makes any difference to your internal state, to your present moment.
It is all meaningless, it is all empty.
If you can truly internalize this, then perhaps, matched with your looksmaxxing and aesthetic improvements, you might actually be able to go out and live a successful and peaceful life.
This essay was extremely off the cuff, I just wanted to get it out there. Would love to hear your discussion and feedback.
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