Eugenics is the solution to a better society

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Eugenics has a bad reputation due to previous examples of implementations, but I see no reason it should be condemned, for it would not even need to involve any brutal measures such as sterilization or murder. It would not need to involve punishment of lesser beings; only reward to all willing to cooperate. I have a proposal: pay those of higher levels of intellect some amount of money per child they produce, whilst paying those of lower intellect to not have a certain amount of children. The amount of money payed per child could potentially be based on level of intelligence, although that would create perceived issues regarding “fairness”. Since most of the time, the couple having children would be married, and therefore share money, they would be motivated to select a partner of higher intelligence, thus further strengthening the objective of improving societal intelligence through the method of sexual selection in addition to the method of artificial selection. There should certainly be a limit to how many times having a child can give you money, otherwise you could become very rich by having a huge amount of children, which would be seen as outrageously unfair. Those of lower intellect could be payed more for each child they don’t have, for example they get payed x amount for having only one and y amount for having none. I see no moral issues with this system. The only reason one would think there be “moral issues” would be from a misconception due to the term “eugenics” and it’s association with previous programs. It’s simply a matter of being payed for this or that, whether you have children or not is still your choice entirely. There are some potential problems: some people (especially those of lower intellect) would be inclined to behave in rebellious manner, leading them to go against what they see the program is attempting to accomplish. Another problem is relating a specific part of this system, where the more your intellect deviates from the average, the more your pay to either have, or not have children is. The problem is that while the higher and lower intellects would have it fair, although in different ways, the average people would get less pay than the extremes. This would create an unfairness, and the fact that the average are the majority would be a huge problem. The alternative is that if you are even above average by any detectable amount, you would be payed the same amount as the genius per child. And if you were even any detectable amount below average, you would be payed the same amount per child not produced as the extreme idiot. This obviously creates a problem by limiting the effectiveness of this eugenics system, but also would have the functional problem of the ambiguity of those who are almost exactly average. The tests would vary if taken multiple times, so the dichotomy between “above-average” and “below average “ would be appear silly and be frustrating to those who were slightly below average. I think that this system could only be maintained if it seemed fair, which is unfortunate because this requirement of fairness limits it’s effectiveness to a large degree. I nonetheless believe it could be a massively powerful system. Another issue is the hypothetical situation of an intellect who wishes not to have children, and then decides to do poorly on the intellectual traits tests in order to qualify for payments for not having children. Another massive issue is that not all people are socially capable of having children, think us incels. Another issue is that a complex intelligence testing system would be required, for just something as simple as an IQ test would not be the perfect and most practical thing to base evolution on. But who would decide what or how qualities are tested for and are relevant? There are probably more issues as well. Anyway, why is eugenics necessary? Well, society is based on the animals running it. Why did we develop technologies like tool use or fire? Would primitive apes ever eventually develop those thing without modification of their genetics? Obviously those inventions were results of increased intelligence. Human nature dictates society, and intelligence is what is holding us back. Yes, other personality traits are obviously relevant, but intelligence is the most objectively “good” trait. Intelligence is the most efficient path to scientific and societal progress. We have just met the threshold that unlocks improvement of our species, and yet we ignore it? You really think society or science will ever develop after a certain point with a species which has a majority of idiots? Even the smartest man to have lived is no where near the evolutionary limit in intellect. What could be accomplished with this relatively simple system could be so extraordinary that we cannot comprehend the magnificence of our potential future. Why cope with “muh scientific developments, muh societal changes” when it is advancing intelligence that will inevitably cause every single aspect of existence to flourish without directly working on it? Eugenics MUST be implemented; it is our only practical solution and would be so simple if only there was collective agreement. Eugenics is the most efficient thing we can do to improve and enhance future lives, it is the only solution!
 
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Never gonna happen tho
 
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Mirin the effective usage of paragraphs in this essay
 
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Dn read + the only solution is to nuke earth. No humans, no problems.
 
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Never gonna happen tho
You’re probably right, but eugenics were tried in the past, and we don’t know how long our species or descendants of our species will continue living. I certainly don’t think it’s impossible.
 
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You’re probably right, but eugenics were tried in the past, and we don’t know how long our species or descendants of our species will continue living. I certainly don’t think it’s impossible.
Yea but we’re too politically correct now so there’s no way it’ll be tried again

People will just get uglier and uglier with each generation
 
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Yea but we’re too politically correct now so there’s no way it’ll be tried again

People will just get uglier and uglier with each generation
I was thinking people getting more attractive, or at least the males, is more likely due to sexual selection.
 
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I’m too lazy, it already took a long time typing this.
There's no need to select for intelligence until tech becomes advanced enough to replace the working class.

Why would you want a bunch of 140iq genius's working in walmart
 
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I was thinking people getting more attractive, or at least the males, is more likely due to sexual selection.
Men aren’t getting more attractive lol

Watch old movies/shows

Go look at old school pics

Average person was far more attractive despite shitty style


Yea there are chads and Stacie’s in this gen but that’s top 0.5%
 
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There's no need to select for intelligence until tech becomes advanced enough to replace the working class.

Why would you want a bunch of 140iq genius's working in walmart
I disagree, our intelligence limits us. improving our intelligence is the best way to making these robots to replace the “working class” in the first place.
 
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I disagree, our intelligence limits us. improving our intelligence is the best way to making these robots to replace the “working class” in the first place.
Limits us from what? Happiness? Conquering the universe... literally who cares about colonising uninhabited planet x-46372gbd
 
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Men aren’t getting more attractive lol

Watch old movies/shows

Go look at old school pics

Average person was far more attractive despite shitty style


Yea there are chads and Stacie’s in this gen but that’s top 0.5%
Yeah people may have gotten less attractive, but I believe that’s due to environmental factors rather than genetic. I believe people will get genetically more attractive based on the black pill notion that women only date attractive men. Although I suppose they also settle with betabuxxers so maybe people may not get genetically more attractive.
 
Limits us from what? Happiness? Conquering the universe... literally who cares about colonising uninhabited planet x-46372gbd
Scientific development and rational societal change. These things are way more important than happiness, in my opinion. Technically, nothing is important as nothing matters.
 
Yeah people may have gotten less attractive, but I believe that’s due to environmental factors rather than genetic. I believe people will get genetically more attractive based on the black pill notion that women only date attractive men. Although I suppose they also settle with betabuxxers so maybe people may not get genetically more attractive.
Na it’s genetics

Women might only date attractive men when they’re younger (not even true lol many girls date ugly guys if you go outside) but still end up settling with an ugly beta buxx and have his children
 
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Scientific development and rational societal change. These things are way more important than happiness, in my opinion. Technically, nothing is important as nothing matters.
Muh soulless progress. must consume, must advance, must develop - literally where is the rationality behind this.

What happens after we become immortal gods on a molecular level and have conquered the entre universe. Where does this blind desire for progress ever end.
 
Na it’s genetics

Women might only date attractive men when they’re younger (not even true lol many girls date ugly guys if you go outside) but still end up settling with an ugly beta buxx and have his children
Well you do agree that a significant amount of the recent change is due to environmental factors?
 
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Well you do agree that a significant amount of the recent change is due to environmental factors?
Yea people are fatter than before
 
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Muh soulless progress. must consume, must advance, must develop - literally where is the rationality behind this.

What happens after we become immortal gods on a molecular level and have conquered the entre universe. Where does this blind desire for progress ever end.
I see problems in society. I see potential. Eugenics is the only way to fix these problems and reach out potential. What do you suggest is important, if not progress?
 
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What do you suggest is important, if not progress?
Entirely subjective and quite cliche but I don't really think anything is important in the grand scheme.

I'm not going to waste my one life trying to make the world a better place for the future generations when I'll probably be dead by the time anything changes and thus not able to reap the benefits of my hard work.

Would much rather hedonismmax
 
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Entirely subjective and quite cliche but I don't really think anything is important in the grand scheme.

I'm not going to waste my one life trying to make the world a better place for the future generations when I'll probably be dead by the time anything changes and thus not able to reap the benefits of my hard work.

Would much rather hedonismmax
Yeah that’s fair. Making the world better is something that I have a deep longing to do, I just can’t stand the current world and how it is so unideal. But hedonismmaxxing is certainly the smart thing to do
 
Eugenics has a bad reputation due to previous examples of implementations, but I see no reason it should be condemned, for it would not even need to involve any brutal measures such as sterilization or murder. It would not need to involve punishment of lesser beings; only reward to all willing to cooperate. I have a proposal: pay those of higher levels of intellect some amount of money per child they produce, whilst paying those of lower intellect to not have a certain amount of children. The amount of money payed per child could potentially be based on level of intelligence, although that would create perceived issues regarding “fairness”. Since most of the time, the couple having children would be married, and therefore share money, they would be motivated to select a partner of higher intelligence, thus further strengthening the objective of improving societal intelligence through the method of sexual selection in addition to the method of artificial selection. There should certainly be a limit to how many times having a child can give you money, otherwise you could become very rich by having a huge amount of children, which would be seen as outrageously unfair. Those of lower intellect could be payed more for each child they don’t have, for example they get payed x amount for having only one and y amount for having none. I see no moral issues with this system. The only reason one would think there be “moral issues” would be from a misconception due to the term “eugenics” and it’s association with previous programs. It’s simply a matter of being payed for this or that, whether you have children or not is still your choice entirely. There are some potential problems: some people (especially those of lower intellect) would be inclined to behave in rebellious manner, leading them to go against what they see the program is attempting to accomplish. Another problem is relating a specific part of this system, where the more your intellect deviates from the average, the more your pay to either have, or not have children is. The problem is that while the higher and lower intellects would have it fair, although in different ways, the average people would get less pay than the extremes. This would create an unfairness, and the fact that the average are the majority would be a huge problem. The alternative is that if you are even above average by any detectable amount, you would be payed the same amount as the genius per child. And if you were even any detectable amount below average, you would be payed the same amount per child not produced as the extreme idiot. This obviously creates a problem by limiting the effectiveness of this eugenics system, but also would have the functional problem of the ambiguity of those who are almost exactly average. The tests would vary if taken multiple times, so the dichotomy between “above-average” and “below average “ would be appear silly and be frustrating to those who were slightly below average. I think that this system could only be maintained if it seemed fair, which is unfortunate because this requirement of fairness limits it’s effectiveness to a large degree. I nonetheless believe it could be a massively powerful system. Another issue is the hypothetical situation of an intellect who wishes not to have children, and then decides to do poorly on the intellectual traits tests in order to qualify for payments for not having children. Another massive issue is that not all people are socially capable of having children, think us incels. Another issue is that a complex intelligence testing system would be required, for just something as simple as an IQ test would not be the perfect and most practical thing to base evolution on. But who would decide what or how qualities are tested for and are relevant? There are probably more issues as well. Anyway, why is eugenics necessary? Well, society is based on the animals running it. Why did we develop technologies like tool use or fire? Would primitive apes ever eventually develop those thing without modification of their genetics? Obviously those inventions were results of increased intelligence. Human nature dictates society, and intelligence is what is holding us back. Yes, other personality traits are obviously relevant, but intelligence is the most objectively “good” trait. Intelligence is the most efficient path to scientific and societal progress. We have just met the threshold that unlocks improvement of our species, and yet we ignore it? You really think society or science will ever develop after a certain point with a species which has a majority of idiots? Even the smartest man to have lived is no where near the evolutionary limit in intellect. What could be accomplished with this relatively simple system could be so extraordinary that we cannot comprehend the magnificence of our potential future. Why cope with “muh scientific developments, muh societal changes” when it is advancing intelligence that will inevitably cause every single aspect of existence to flourish without directly working on it? Eugenics MUST be implemented; it is our only practical solution and would be so simple if only there was collective agreement. Eugenics is the most efficient thing we can do to improve and enhance future lives, it is the only solution!
Eugenics as in embryo selection and genetic engineering. Not controlling reproduction.
 
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Eugenics as in embryo selection and genetic engineering. Not controlling reproduction.
I’ll have to think about those alternatives. Can you explain how embryo selection could accomplish the same goals described in my post?
 
Yea but we’re too politically correct now so there’s no way it’ll be tried again

People will just get uglier and uglier with each generation
Simple solution - do it in China, they aren't politically correct.
 
Heightmaxx to eugenics pipeline is real
 
Limits us from what? Happiness? Conquering the universe... literally who cares about colonising uninhabited planet x-46372gbd
it could limit us from achieving things like age-reversal technology, or technology that could allow humans to live forever, or even tech that could turn regular dudes into chads. you cant tell me you wouldnt want that kind of technology.
 
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it could limit us from achieving things like age-reversal technology, or technology that could allow humans to live forever, or even tech that could turn regular dudes into chads. you cant tell me you wouldnt want that kind of technology.
progress :soy::soy::soy:

Ok we're all now 1000 year old giga chads, what have we actually accomplished?
 
Nah eugenics is bullshit
You seem to conflate eugenics with evolution
THAT is not the case
Eugenics have been recorded before in many population and its one of single most negative condition that is possible in a population because It changes entire sociological part of population on its head

not mentioning things like inbreeding depression and even lower chance of survival in case of pathogenic population

What actually creates a good Species is Free all out Reproduction
All variety of oragnism survive thus maintaing a large sample size of gene pool

Check out animal which commit to wugenics vs the ones who dont and you will see which is more succesfull
Eugenics is a big scam market
 
progress :soy::soy::soy:

Ok we're all now 1000 year old giga chads, what have we actually accomplished?
bro are you serious
would you seriously not want to be a gigachad that could live thousands of years? why are u even on this looksmaxxing forum if you wouldnt want that?
 
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bro are you serious
would you seriously not want to be a gigachad that could live thousands of years? why are u even on this looksmaxxing forum if you wouldnt want that?
I'm on a looksmaxxing forum to shitpost and no i wouldnt want to be an 1000 year old gigachad if everyone else were
 
I'm on a looksmaxxing forum to shitpost and no i wouldnt want to be an 1000 year old gigachad if everyone else were
lameass nigga
 
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