even if an objective morality exists, who says we need to be moral?

[Aiwass]

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[carpe diem]

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our biology

 

[Aiwass]

our biology

proof?

 

[Nexom]

There is an innate moral

 

[carpe diem]

proof?

Guilt

 

[Aiwass]

There is an innate moral

Guilt

so if i kill a baby but dont feel guilty thats moral?

 

[carpe diem]

so if i kill a baby but dont feel guilty thats moral?

No lol

 

[Aiwass]

No lol

so i disproved u

 

[764.]

Foid thinks she has any right speaking on this topic

 

[Aiwass]

Foid thinks she has any right speaking on this topic

ive proven im a man

 

[carpe diem]

so i disproved u

Morality ≠ feelings. Objective wrongness exists independently of guilt. Feeling nothing doesn’t make a horrific act moral; it just means your psychology is misaligned with reality retarded nigger

 

[Aiwass]

Morality ≠ feelings. Objective wrongness exists independently of guilt. Feeling nothing doesn’t make a horrific act moral; it just means your psychology is misaligned with reality retarded nigger

but u just said objective morality was based upon our biology

 

[BR32]

I don't believe in objective morality

 

[Aiwass]

I don't believe in objective morality

me neither

 

[Sandriguez]

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everyone who wants peace of mind

 

[BR32]

me neither

I don't think there is any type of decree to be moral but we still feel bad for making "immoral" choices

 

[Aiwass]

everyone who wants peace of mind

thats gay and anti-life

 

[Sandriguez]

thats gay and anti-life

then we’re all homo-abortionists

 

[Aiwass]

then we’re all homo-abortionists

i dont care about killing babies

of course i would if it was going to negatively impact me

i just dont want other people to have abortions because it promotes hook-up culture which negatively impacts me

 

[Sandriguez]

i dont care about killing babies

of course i would if it was going to negatively impact me

i just dont want other people to have abortions because it promotes hook-up culture which negatively impacts me

i wasn’t being literal

 

[Deleted member 132058]

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Objective morality can’t exist, and you cannot be “not moral”. Any desicion you make is a reflection of you, ie your OWN morality.

 

[Deleted member 132058]

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Morality ≠ feelings. Objective wrongness exists independently of guilt. Feeling nothing doesn’t make a horrific act moral; it just means your psychology is misaligned with reality retarded nigger

missaligned with YOUR perception, doesn’t make that objective morality. Neither does my perception.

 

[Aiwass]

Objective morality can’t exist, and you cannot be “not moral”. Any desicion you make is a reflection of you, ie your OWN morality.

why cant it?

and second part is false

 

[Deleted member 132058]

why cant it?

and second part is false

Explain on the second part, I’ll reply to your first question tomorrow. 3 am and too sleepy:3

 

[Aiwass]

Explain on the second part, I’ll reply to your first question tomorrow. 3 am and too sleepy:3

u can do things that dont align with ur morality

 

[Deleted member 132058]

u can do things that dont align with ur morality

If you do stuff that’s out of your own morality then it was never your morality in the first place. Action dictates your morals, not what you think you would do.

 

[Aiwass]

If you do stuff that’s out of your own morality then it was never your morality in the first place. Action dictates your morals, not what you think you would do.

thats just untrue

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

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whatever nigger

 

[Deleted member 132058]

thats just untrue

EXPLAIN OR DNI

 

[Deleted member 132058]

thats just untrue

If you can’t follow your own morals, then it was a mirage for what your ACTUAL morals are.

 

[BeanCelll]

Most don't have the security to live in an immoral society

The majority just agree on things to make life easier for themselves, you don't have to listen to them.

 

[greycel]

It’s in your interest

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

If you do stuff that’s out of your own morality then it was never your morality in the first place. Action dictates your morals, not what you think you would do.

Not necessarily. Doing actions against your own morals is cognitive dissonance.
Normally, if youre doing something out of your morals its usually out of your control.

 

[Aiwass]

EXPLAIN OR DNI

morals are logic/reasoning to decide whether or not said action is moral + doing said moral thing

its based upon thoughts and actions

 

[Aiwass]

It’s in your interest

why?

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

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if an objective morality is there, it means we have to follow it. There would be a higher force like God to impose such morality and you would have to be forced to follow it or else.

 

[Deleted member 132058]

Not necessarily. Doing actions against your own morals is cognitive dissonance.
Normally, if youre doing something out of your morals it’s usually out of your control.

I suppose you’re right, maybe I should’ve used weak morals. But even so, how could something out of your control force you to make decisions that don’t align with your morals? You’re still the one making the decisions.

 

[greycel]

why?

If you guaranteed the existence of an objective morality, it is the Truth
You only stand to not gain (or worse, lose) from not abiding by its doctrines

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

I suppose you’re right, maybe I should’ve used weak morals. But even so, how could something out of your control force you to make decisions that don’t align with your morals? You’re still the one making the decisions.

For example, being forced to kill someone
or needing to do this certain thing as a last resort to achieve a goal that'll benefit you or others (I.E needing to rob someone for money to pay rent)

 

[Deleted member 132058]

morals are logic/reasoning to decide whether or not said action is moral + doing said moral thing

its based upon thoughts and actions

Yes but action is the deciding factor, if you take out action there is only a framework of what your morals are. Thought is only a subjective judgement upon our actions. I.E objective morality can’t exist.

 

[Deleted member 132058]

For example, being forced to kill someone
or needing to do this certain thing as a last resort to achieve a goal that'll benefit you or others (I.E needing to rob someone for money to pay rent)

If you’re not willing to suffer for your morals, and the consequences that come with them. Then you have weak morals, if at any discomfort of your morals being challenged you stray away from them, you never stood by them in the first place.

 

[LettersfromAgartha]

If you’re not willing to suffer for your morals, and the consequences that come with them. Then you have weak morals, if at any discomfort of your morals being challenged you stray away from them, you never stood by them in the first place.

So if it comes down to it, will you die for your morals?

 

[Deleted member 132058]

So if it comes down to it, will you die for your morals?

Hypothetically yes. But I haven’t come to that situation so I can’t objectively say that is true.

 

[birthdefect]

ive proven im a man

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