Everyone here is a standardscel

[FailedNormieManlet]

If you lower your standards enough, you can fuck women. But you might not be pleased with the results

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

in some sense yes - but its not unreasonable to want girls who are atleast around your looksmatch tbh

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

in some sense yes - but its not unreasonable to want girls who are atleast around your looksmatch tbh

Ofc not, but there are some users who think that it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to bang a girl. Asking for your looksmatch requires a lot of work tbh - social circle + NT

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Ofc not, but there are some users who think that it is IMPOSSIBLE for them to bang a girl. Asking for your looksmatch requires a lot of work tbh - social circle + NT

youre not wrong tbh its fucking hard to get your looksmatch in 2022, maybe im just absolutely fucked without my social cirlce

 

[thereallegend]

Not me

Give me the uggos

I'll dick em down n treat em right

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

If you lower your standards enough, you can fuck women. But you might not be pleased with the results

You are wrong

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

I am okay with deformed, disabled or midget girl

 

[Deleted member 14693]

True. Escortcelling is possible for everyone.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

youre not wrong tbh its fucking hard to get your looksmatch in 2022, maybe im just absolutely fucked without my social cirlce

I had dated my looksmatch when I was more active social circle wise. I also had a mentally ill girls fighting over me - they were ugly af though. How you ask? Befriend gay people.

See idk if you have this, but I seem to attract lots of gay and bisexual men. They often think I'm attractive af, and do talk to me a lot. I do tell them I'm straight, but I treat them like normal people. They in turn introduce me to their female friends - and they often will build a good image of me. So that's how I used to have lots of female friends and orbiters at a young age.

I now don't have gay friends, so I rot here

 

[Deleted member 14160]

in some sense yes - but its not unreasonable to want girls who are atleast around your looksmatch tbh

girl in question:

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I had dated my looksmatch when I was more active social circle wise. I also had a mentally ill girls fighting over me - they were ugly af though. How you ask? Befriend gay people.

See idk if you have this, but I seem to attract lots of gay and bisexual men. They often think I'm attractive af, and do talk to me a lot. I do tell them I'm straight, but I treat them like normal people. They in turn introduce me to their female friends - and they often will build a good image of me. So that's how I used to have lots of female friends and orbiters at a young age.

I now don't have gay friends, so I rot here

sounds like a legit tactic - im 24 though I feel like finding a circle of guys my age is even less likely than getting a looksmatched LTR from a dating app.

I actually did date 1 girl in february who looksmogged me from hinge but it was a one off fluke not gonna happen again

Actually theres 1 girl from my work who when were out drinking gives me giga obvious IOIs but shes LTN and has a terrible personality in terms of what you look for in a GF and is giga hypergamous

 

[Deleted member 20056]

Not me

Give me the uggos

I'll dick em down n treat em right

you don't feel disgusting after cause of post nut clarity

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

sounds like a legit tactic - im 24 though I feel like finding a circle of guys my age is even less likely than getting a looksmatched LTR from a dating app.

I actually did date 1 girl in february who looksmogged me from hinge but it was a one off fluke not gonna happen again

It is a very legit tactic. But these girls were subhumans lol, like one of them was fat, had a BDSM kink and would send me horny DMs begging me to fuck - she claimed I was hot af.

The other one was a psycho, she has a fetish for pajeets now and still stalks my friends group to this day. She's lost weight and looks okay now, but I still would never touch. She almost fucked my life up badly.

 

[aBetterMii]

This or death, i dont want my looksmatch, i want THISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

 

[Gargantuan]

Bluepillers be like: people only want stacys here

When in reality most would be more than happy with their looksmatch and simply dont want to dumpster dive with uggos

 

[thereallegend]

you don't feel disgusting after cause of post nut clarity

No Imma different breeed i guess

instagram fucked you guys up

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Bluepillers be like: people only want stacys here

When in reality most would be more than happy with their looksmatch and simply dont want to dumpster dive with uggos

pretty much, but if you want your looksmatch you need social skills, a social circle and some level of game - THINGS WHICH NIGGAS HERE THINK DON'T MATTER

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Another note on this for an LTR its also normal to want a girl whos matched and compatible on other traits like personality, values etc

But the problem is it is so so hard to get your looksmatch to begin with, that when you do get a chance with them its natural to not wanna fuck it up so youre gonna overlook her not really being ideal in other aspects- but what can you do?

How often am I gonna get a chance with a roughly looksmatched girl- I dont mean how often will i match them on tidner or something or kiss them in a club thats easy- like an actual investment from them in you going on several dates, sleeping together- with the potential for things to go further, its jsut so fucking rare to get these oppurtunities man

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

pretty much, but if you want your looksmatch you need social skills, a social circle and some level of game - THINGS WHICH NIGGAS HERE THINK DON'T MATTER

I think they matter but I dont even know where to begin maxxing out those things- Id rather get surgery and max my face to give me a better chance online etc

 

[MoggerGaston]

I dont want my looksmatch. I want her to be slightly better looking than me.

 

[BugeyeBigNoseCurry]

Bluepillers be like: people only want stacys here

When in reality most would be more than happy with their looksmatch and simply dont want to dumpster dive with uggos

Even deformed

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Another note on this for an LTR its also normal to want a girl whos matched and compatible on other traits like personality, values etc

But the problem is it is so so hard to get your looksmatch to begin with, that when you do get a chance with them its natural to not wanna fuck it up so youre gonna overlook her not really being ideal in other aspects- but what can you do?

How often am I gonna get a chance with a roughly looksmatched girl- I dont mean how often will i match them on tidner or something or kiss them in a club thats easy- like an actual investment from them in you going on several dates, sleeping together- with the potential for things to go further, its jsut so fucking rare to get these oppurtunities man

Have you never dated from social circle? When I met my ex-gf for the first time, she was a church going chrisitian who liked to sing and was into musicals a lot. We had nothing in common, but we got to know each other, spent time together and had similar thought patterns and humour. So eventually we dated.

This is how sort of oofy doofy guys date tbh, you change with the woman and become one.

 

[Deleted member 20056]

No Imma different breeed i guess

instagram fucked you guys up

It's not instagram jfl, I've fucked girls below my looksmatch, the problem is the ones who I find repulsive, I was super horny early this year, invited ugly girl I had friendzoned, popped cialis and I thought yeah I'm ready I was hard before she got here, she looked so bad, I even tried making out but my dick went supersoft, so I had to send her back home. She wasn't overweight just really ugly

 

[forevergymcelling]

Another note on this for an LTR its also normal to want a girl whos matched and compatible on other traits like personality, values etc

But the problem is it is so so hard to get your looksmatch to begin with, that when you do get a chance with them its natural to not wanna fuck it up so youre gonna overlook her not really being ideal in other aspects- but what can you do?

How often am I gonna get a chance with a roughly looksmatched girl- I dont mean how often will i match them on tidner or something or kiss them in a club thats easy- like an actual investment from them in you going on several dates, sleeping together- with the potential for things to go further, its jsut so fucking rare to get these oppurtunities man

All these whores are busy messaging Maher on hinge

It’s brutal

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

I think they matter but I dont even know where to begin maxxing out those things- Id rather get surgery and max my face to give me a better chance online etc

You just need to befriend gays tbh, you seem like a very NT person though.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

All these whores are busy messaging Maher on hinge

It’s brutal

The inevitable maherpill would ofc be dropped by @forevergymcelling

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

All these whores are busy messaging Maher on hinge

It’s brutal

You know what a couple of months ago a work friend of mine (foid) invited me to come on a night out for her friends birthday (all foids), so it was just me and 4 foids at the predrinks. Anyway it was very insightful experience, at pres they were talking about dating apps and they were all saying - muh I would rather meet someone at a bar / irl.

Then 30 minutes we go to a bar and the 4 of them all have 100% completely shut off body language, dance in a closed circle making it imposssible for any guy to approach them lol. One girl even did actually get with a guy aftert id left and exchnaged numebrs then I asked if he texted her the next day and she said he did but she ignored him cos hes too short.

So basically these girls (all LTB) want to get guys as good looking as they can get on dating apps, because they spent so much time on their phones they have a warped sense of reality - but they want the validation of these men approaching them and jestermaxxing for them irl, and if any guy around their looks level dare approach them irl theyll probably laugh at them

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

You know what a couple of months ago a work friend of mine (foid) invited me to come on a night out for her friends birthday (all foids), so it was just me and 4 foids at the predrinks. Anyway it was very insightful experience, at pres they were talking about dating apps and they were all saying - muh I would rather meet someone at a bar / irl.

Then 30 minutes we go to a bar and the 4 of them all have 100% completely shut off body language, dance in a closed circle making it imposssible for any guy to approach them lol. One girl even did actually get with a guy aftert id left and exchnaged numebrs then I asked if he texted her the next day and she said he did but she ignored him cos hes too short.

So basically these girls (all LTB) want to get guys as good looking as they can get on dating apps, because they spent so much time on their phones they have a warped sense of reality - but they want the validation of these men approaching them and jestermaxxing for them irl, and if any guy around their looks level dare approach them irl theyll probably laugh at them

UK girls man...

 

[Deleted member 3828]

Everyone must have their standards
without standards you have no dignity and you a cuck

that's how we've always rolled
judging/rating others/things and choosing what we like, building life on things we deem worthy of ourselves
rejecting and keeping away from things/people that bring us down

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You just need to befriend gays tbh, you seem like a very NT person though.

I am NT but I've never had any luck through social cirlce at uni - tbf covid did ruin half of it and I had a gf for first year so I only had like just over a year of uni being single and not in a covid lockdwon so maybe that factors into my experinece.

Or maybe im underestimating how much my facial expression and smile failo me irl and im much less atrractive in social circle enviroments cos of these failos

 

[thereallegend]

You know what a couple of months ago a work friend of mine (foid) invited me to come on a night out for her friends birthday (all foids), so it was just me and 4 foids at the predrinks. Anyway it was very insightful experience, at pres they were talking about dating apps and they were all saying - muh I would rather meet someone at a bar / irl.

Then 30 minutes we go to a bar and the 4 of them all have 100% completely shut off body language, dance in a closed circle making it imposssible for any guy to approach them lol. One girl even did actually get with a guy aftert id left and exchnaged numebrs then I asked if he texted her the next day and she said he did but she ignored him cos hes too short.

So basically these girls (all LTB) want to get guys as good looking as they can get on dating apps, because they spent so much time on their phones they have a warped sense of reality - but they want the validation of these men approaching them and jestermaxxing for them irl, and if any guy around their looks level dare approach them irl theyll probably laugh at them

Just look at the TV show Euphoria. The fat chick fucks NTmaxxed HTNs with ease

 

[thereallegend]

It's not instagram jfl, I've fucked girls below my looksmatch, the problem is the ones who I find repulsive, I was super horny early this year, invited ugly girl I had friendzoned, popped cialis and I thought yeah I'm ready I was hard before she got here, she looked so bad, I even tried making out but my dick went supersoft, so I had to send her back home. She wasn't overweight just really ugly

Yeah I don't know how I do it sometimes tbh

You're right

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Just look at the TV show Euphoria. The fat chick fucks NTmaxxed HTNs with ease

HTN is where girls start to view you as human- HTN is what girls view as average, and every girl rates themselves as at least average so they all want a HTN absolute fucking minimum

 

[Pendejo]

Asking for your looksmatch requires a lot of work tbh - social circle + NT

 

[thereallegend]

HTN is where girls start to view you as human- HTN is what girls view as average, and every girl rates themselves as at least average so they all want a HTN absolute fucking minimum

You're not even in the plot as sub 6

Just a background NPC nuisance

 

[DeathlyAware]

If you lower your standards enough, you can fuck women. But you might not be pleased with the results

The real question is why men are expected to lower standards but women won't. Simply due to the female monopoly of the dating market.

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

I am NT but I've never had any luck through social cirlce at uni - tbf covid did ruin half of it and I had a gf for first year so I only had like just over a year of uni being single and not in a covid lockdwon so maybe that factors into my experinece.

Or maybe im underestimating how much my facial expression and smile failo me irl and im much less atrractive in social circle enviroments cos of these failos

Smile failio could be a thing. But knowing you, and your grammar school pheno. You deffo just didn't approach ethnics, dating in social circle is weird too. Like idk it just happened for me

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

Smile failio could be a thing. But knowing you, and your grammar school pheno. You deffo just didn't approach ethnics, dating in social circle is weird too. Like idk it just happened for me

In second year when I was less looksmaxxed tbh - I hooked up with a MTB girl through social cirlce at uni, then afterwards I tried askign her out on a date (lol cringe) and was brutally rejected. IDK maybe I could have played that situation better and ended up with something.

Its funny I remember I left all blackpill and PSL shit between 2017-2019 and that rejection is what triggered me to return to these forums, it must have coincided almsot excatly with my join date

my smile failo isnyt just about my smile tbh its all facial expressions, I mean in fairness I do think most people look slightly worse when talking or eating etc vs when just having a neutral expression but for me the descenion seems a lot more severe.

Idk thats why im debating lefort 1 as well cos I think CW lefort 1 could fix it but ramieri didnt reccomend it for me but I wonde if thats because hes doing everything based off my resting face and just looksmaxxing that (for wihc i agree BSSO and genio will be enough).

Fuck another day, another tortourous internal debate about whether or not to get a lefort 1

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

In second year when I was less looksmaxxed tbh - I hooked up with a MTB girl through social cirlce at uni, then afterwards I tried askign her out on a date (lol cringe) and was brutally rejected. IDK maybe I could have played that situation better and ended up with something.

Its funny I remember I left all blackpill and PSL shit between 2017-2019 and that rejection is what triggered me to return to these forums, it must have coincided almsot excatly with my join date

damn, what happened? How did you even get rejected for a date after you legit fucked her?

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

damn, what happened? How did you even get rejected for a date after you legit fucked her?

Hooked up with her on a night out - had some drunk sloppy sex lol

Stayed at her house for a bit in the morning and she made me breakfast- left my phone at hers by accident then she gave it to me on campus like a week later, then when she gave me my phone back I kissed her on the cheek in public in daytime (cringe looking back)- then later i texted her asking her if she wanted to go for drinks but long story short she rejected me.

Idk looking back I actged quite beta after sex lol, that was actually my final moments of clinging to the bluepill in hindsight- theres no going back now to that previous state im fully blackpilled.

Tbh im not 100% why I never managed to get a normie gf through social circle when I was at uni- I was very social and kinda NT , I had mostly guy friends which maybe didnt help. People at much lower PSL than me got normie gfs so maybe something about my behaviour was abit off irl but I cant 100% put my finger on it or maybe my facial expressions failo me way more irl than I currently think. Or maybe I just got unlucky? but tbh i never like to say it was just unlucky because I always like to explain my life experiences in some sort of analytical way - and that normally comes back to the blackpill or looks

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Hooked up with her on a night out - had some drunk sloppy sex lol

Stayed at her house for a bit in the morning and she made me breakfast- left my phone at hers by accident then she gave it to me on campus like a week later, then when she gave me my phone back I kissed her on the cheek in public in daytime (cringe looking back)- then later i texted her asking her if she wanted to go for drinks but long story short she rejected me.

Idk looking back I actged quite beta after sex lol, that was actually my final moments of clinging to the bluepill in hindsight- theres no going back now to that previous state im fully blackpilled.

Tbh im not 100% why I never managed to get a normie gf through social circle when I was at uni- I was very social and kinda NT , I had mostly guy friends which maybe didnt help. People at much lower PSL than me got normie gfs so maybe something about my behaviour was abit off irl but I cant 100% put my finger on it or maybe my facial expressions failo me way more irl than I currently think. Or maybe I just got unlucky? but tbh i never like to say it was just unlucky because I always like to explain my life experiences in some sort of analytical way - and that normally comes back to the blackpill or looks

You seem like an NT guy and seem reasonable tbh. I do think you are a bit of an overthinker, but in all honesty I am surprised you didn't get a gf through social circle.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

You seem like an NT guy and seem reasonable tbh. I do think you are a bit of an overthinker, but in all honesty I am surprised you didn't get a gf through social circle.

I never did in school either lol - I was probabyl a low tier normie prior to dental compensation for my overbite and my face / body growing a bit but still - guys who are literally PSL 3 get gfs in secondary school, its not like uni and then adult life and dating apps and shit where you need to be 5 PSL + to have success unless you run absolutely absurd numbers game.

Ive just fluked a gf from online dating in 2020 who I legit really liked as well. *sigh* life couldbe taken a different trajectory if I stayed with her but maybe its better for me to be in this hardcore self improvement mode for now

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

I never did in school either lol - I was probabyl a low tier normie prior to dental compensation for my overbite and my face / body growing a bit but still - guys who are literally PSL 3 get gfs in secondary school, its not like uni and then adult life and dating apps and shit where you need to be 5 PSL + to have success unless you run absolutely absurd numbers game.

Ive just fluked a gf from online dating in 2020 who I legit really liked as well. *sigh* life couldbe taken a different trajectory if I stayed with her but maybe its better for me to be in this hardcore self improvement mode for now

at least you are slaying now bro, you are NT and I do just think it is badluck for you

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

at least you are slaying now bro, you are NT and I do just think it is badluck for you

maybe but I like to explain everything when it comes to this shit I never like to dismiss anything as just down to luck.

Tbf my most recent slay I acc quite like her personality but I cant quite get over her looks- shes like LTB and has a moderate-severe negative canthal tilt and when youre blackpilled traits like that are such cagefuel. She seems like much less of an NPC than 99% of girls

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

maybe but I like to explain everything when it comes to this shit I never like to dismiss anything as just down to luck.

Tbf my most recent slay I acc quite like her personality but I cant quite get over her looks- shes like LTB and has a moderate-severe negative canthal tilt and when youre blackpilled traits like that are such cagefuel. She seems like much less of an NPC than 99% of girls

send pic?

Tbh man no girl will click instantly for you, like it took me months before I actually got along with my ex-gf -before we dated

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

send pic?

Tbh man no girl will click instantly for you, like it took me months before I actually got along with my ex-gf -before we dated

Nah the thing is with my ex I did legit click with her instantly on the date - Ive dated probs 2 other girls who looksmogged her even but it just wasnt the same.

Never had quite the same vibe when I met any girl from OLD vs her, kind just really want that same vibe/feeling again if I wanna gf a girl , yeah ill send you a pic lol

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

Nah the thing is with my ex I did legit click with her instantly on the date - Ive dated probs 2 other girls who looksmogged her even but it just wasnt the same.

Never had quite the same vibe when I met any girl from OLD vs her, kind just really want that same vibe/feeling again if I wanna gf a girl , yeah ill send you a pic lol

I get you on that tbh. When I started dating girls, I felt weird and didn't like speaking to them. They were boring af and had no personality. Even to this day, my ex-gf is one of few women I can actually speak to and she can make me laugh lol.

Was that your first love too? I swear 1st love-pill is so fucking brutal.

 

[reborn]

If you lower your standards enough, you can fuck women. But you might not be pleased with the results

My dick does not get hard for landwhales and feminazis.

 

[DoctorLooksmax]

I get you on that tbh. When I started dating girls, I felt weird and didn't like speaking to them. They were boring af and had no personality. Even to this day, my ex-gf is one of few women I can actually speak to and she can make me laugh lol.

Was that your first love too? I swear 1st love-pill is so fucking brutal.

No not even I had a different gf when 18 - she was actually my 15th slay iirc so not even like me just being beta and inexperienced

 

[FailedNormieManlet]

No not even I had a different gf when 18 - she was actually my 15th slay iirc so not even like me just being beta and inexperienced

Was she your first gf though? 1st love pill fucked me badly