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In this updated guide I’ll be going over the softmax procedures I used to ascend my eye area, and showing how my eyes changed over roughly 6 months.

I’ll start off by showing the progression.

Here is the first photo, taken on December 26th. This was around 3 weeks after I began working on my eye area.

IMG 9146


Another example from a few days later:

IMG 9147


NOTE — When people compare these early photos to the newer ones, many point out that I’m looking in a different direction. This is true. In the original photos, I was looking at my eyes on my phone screen rather than directly into the camera. At the time I didn’t understand how to take proper photos, which definitely affects presentation.

Here is a progress photo taken on March 30th:

IMG 9148


IMPORTANT PART —

This photo was taken May 10th, 2026.


IMG 9006



Obviously this is a more ideal angle, so I also took 3 more photos on May 18th from slightly different angles:

IMG 9127
IMG 9128
IMG 9129


Morning of May 19th from another angle:

IMG 9140


A lot of people immediately point to “frauding” whenever they see major eye-area changes. SPOILER — some of that criticism is fair. Angles, lighting, tension, expression, and camera distance all matter heavily. I will talk about that later.

The biggest change for me was the appearance of my canthal tilt improving from slightly neutral/negative to more positive-looking. When I originally asked forums for advice, almost every response I received was “surgery.” I still experimented with methods consistently anyway, and over time the changes started stacking.

BEFORE NOTE —

A lot of these methods depend heavily on your base genetics and bone structure. Bone structure determines most of your overall eye shape, orbital support, depth, and proportions. You can improve presentation and surrounding tissue, but you are not fully changing your anatomy.

With that being said, let’s get into it.

(Watch the videos fully — they are by far the easiest way for me to explain things.)

EYEBROWS/LASHES —

I use around 2 pea-sized amounts of topical minoxidil foam across each eyebrow. While the minoxidil is setting in, I lightly derma roll the area a few times. Once it dries, I apply The Ordinary lash and brow serum. Lashes I do the same but with smaller ammounts and no derma.

For shaping, I trim hairs at extreme peaks/dips in the brow shape to make them appear cleaner and more straight.

IMPORTANT — don’t overtrim. I accidentally shaved part of my right eyebrow at one point, and the hairs grew back unevenly. Minoxidil especially can also cause eyebrow hairs to grow in random directions when regrowing.

EYEBROW / NASAL BRIDGE —

I experimented a lot with bonesmashing around the inner brow ridge and nasal bridge area. Personally, I felt like this changed the overall appearance and mass around the area over time, although I know this is heavily debated, and also difficult to separate from lighting, swelling, body fat changes, and natural maturing.

I’ll also say this, impact methods around the face come with obvious risks, do not be reckless.

UEE (UPPER EYELID EXPOSURE) —




This is another one of the most debated changes, often blamed entirely on “frauding.”

In my experience, controlling UEE does involve muscle activation. At first, it isn’t truly relaxed, but over time you can train the muscles involved so the expression becomes more natural and subconscious.

One method I practiced was pinning my lashes upward while activating the muscles above the eyelid during blinking motions. you should feel strain deeper behind the brow area. My theory is that consistent control of these muscles changes how the upper eyelid sits and presents.

IMG 9149
IMG 9150
IMG 9151


It’s also important to maintain lower, more relaxed brow posture rather than constantly raising the eyebrows.

UNDER-EYES —





For under-eyes, I mainly focused on hydration, sleep, skincare, and massage.

I use a thick moisturizing eye cream and massage upward toward the temples. Sleep and water intake mattered more than almost anything else. If those were bad, my eye area looked noticeably worse no matter what else I did.

INNER CANTHUS / EYE SHAPE EXPERIMENTATION —

PREWARNING — the eye area is extremely delicate and any experimentation around it carries obvious risk.

METHOD #1

Safer, tense up your eyes while pushing and away with a sharp object. This is more of a “forming”, simply encourages the canthus to build into a point.

METHOD 2#

Make small cut along the same line, down and away. This is more genuine cutting, where you are actually reshaping the muscle and skin. I use very little pressure, I have never drawn blood. Occasionally, I will feel slight stinging or irritation the day after, but its never lasted the entire day.

Do NOT underestimate the possibility of injury in this area.

FRAUDING —

Many users point out possible frauding. Yes guys, I am frauding to some extent.

The easiest way for me to explain this is through the March photos and the injury itself.

The open wound 😭:
IMG 7792


A few days later:
IMG 7801


The result:

IMG 9148


The asymmetry is obvious. The scar across my right brow changed the presentation of that eye noticeably. Ironically, the injured side ended up with better tilt appearance and lower UEE, while the left side did not.

To balance symmetry, I raise or tense the lower lid on my left side slightly. Over time though, I’ve noticed I need to consciously do this less and less.

AFTER NOTE —

The most important thing throughout any of this is consistency. Most changes happen slowly and subtly over months: sleep, hydration, grooming, skincare, brow posture + growth, and muscle habits all stack over time.

Be patient, stay realistic, and focus on long-term improvement rather than overnight changes.

You got this.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? Feel free to PM me or respond to the thread.

Thank you guys for reading — I hope this helps anyone looking for eye-area advice. Please share and rep :)

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In this updated guide I’ll be going over the softmax procedures I used to ascend my eye area, and showing how my eyes changed over roughly 6 months.

I’ll start off by showing the progression.

Here is the first photo, taken on December 26th. This was around 3 weeks after I began working on my eye area.

View attachment 5086829

Another example from a few days later:

View attachment 5086830

NOTE — When people compare these early photos to the newer ones, many point out that I’m looking in a different direction. This is true. In the original photos, I was looking at my eyes on my phone screen rather than directly into the camera. At the time I didn’t understand how to take proper photos, which definitely affects presentation.

Here is a progress photo taken on March 30th:

View attachment 5086617

IMPORTANT PART —

This photo was taken May 10th, 2026.


View attachment 5084152


Obviously this is a more ideal angle, so I also took 3 more photos on May 18th from slightly different angles:

View attachment 5084160View attachment 5084161View attachment 5084162

Morning of May 19th from another angle:

View attachment 5086776

A lot of people immediately point to “frauding” whenever they see major eye-area changes. SPOILER — some of that criticism is fair. Angles, lighting, tension, expression, and camera distance all matter heavily. I will talk about that later.

The biggest change for me was the appearance of my canthal tilt improving from slightly neutral/negative to more positive-looking. When I originally asked forums for advice, almost every response I received was “surgery.” I still experimented with methods consistently anyway, and over time the changes started stacking.

BEFORE NOTE —

A lot of these methods depend heavily on your base genetics and bone structure. Bone structure determines most of your overall eye shape, orbital support, depth, and proportions. You can improve presentation and surrounding tissue, but you are not fully changing your anatomy.

With that being said, let’s get into it.

(Watch the videos fully — they are by far the easiest way for me to explain things.)

EYEBROWS/LASHES —

I use around 2 pea-sized amounts of topical minoxidil foam across each eyebrow. While the minoxidil is setting in, I lightly derma roll the area a few times. Once it dries, I apply The Ordinary lash and brow serum. Lashes I do the same but with smaller ammounts and no derma.

For shaping, I trim hairs at extreme peaks/dips in the brow shape to make them appear cleaner and more straight.

IMPORTANT — don’t overtrim. I accidentally shaved part of my right eyebrow at one point, and the hairs grew back unevenly. Minoxidil especially can also cause eyebrow hairs to grow in random directions when regrowing.

EYEBROW / NASAL BRIDGE —

I experimented a lot with bonesmashing around the inner brow ridge and nasal bridge area. Personally, I felt like this changed the overall appearance and mass around the area over time, although I know this is heavily debated, and also difficult to separate from lighting, swelling, body fat changes, and natural maturing.

I’ll also say this, impact methods around the face come with obvious risks, do not be reckless.

UEE (UPPER EYELID EXPOSURE) —


View attachment 5086451

This is another one of the most debated changes, often blamed entirely on “frauding.”

In my experience, controlling UEE does involve muscle activation. At first, it isn’t truly relaxed, but over time you can train the muscles involved so the expression becomes more natural and subconscious.

One method I practiced was pinning my lashes upward while activating the muscles above the eyelid during blinking motions. you should feel strain deeper behind the brow area. My theory is that consistent control of these muscles changes how the upper eyelid sits and presents.

View attachment 5086430View attachment 5086431View attachment 5086432

It’s also important to maintain lower, more relaxed brow posture rather than constantly raising the eyebrows.

UNDER-EYES —


View attachment 5086448


For under-eyes, I mainly focused on hydration, sleep, skincare, and massage.

I use a thick moisturizing eye cream and massage upward toward the temples. Sleep and water intake mattered more than almost anything else. If those were bad, my eye area looked noticeably worse no matter what else I did.

INNER CANTHUS / EYE SHAPE EXPERIMENTATION —

PREWARNING — the eye area is extremely delicate and any experimentation around it carries obvious risk.

METHOD #1
View attachment 5086449
Safer, tense up your eyes while pushing and away with a sharp object. This is more of a “forming”, simply encourages the canthus to build into a point.

METHOD 2#
View attachment 5086450
Make small cut along the same line, down and away. This is more genuine cutting, where you are actually reshaping the muscle and skin. I use very little pressure, I have never drawn blood. Occasionally, I will feel slight stinging or irritation the day after, but its never lasted the entire day.

Do NOT underestimate the possibility of injury in this area.

FRAUDING —

Many users point out possible frauding. Yes guys, I am frauding to some extent.

The easiest way for me to explain this is through the March photos and the injury itself.

The open wound 😭:
View attachment 5086674

A few days later:
View attachment 5086705

The result:

View attachment 5086617

The asymmetry is obvious. The scar across my right brow changed the presentation of that eye noticeably. Ironically, the injured side ended up with better tilt appearance and lower UEE, while the left side did not.

To balance symmetry, I raise or tense the lower lid on my left side slightly. Over time though, I’ve noticed I need to consciously do this less and less.

AFTER NOTE —

The most important thing throughout any of this is consistency. Most changes happen slowly and subtly over months: sleep, hydration, grooming, skincare, brow posture + growth, and muscle habits all stack over time.

Be patient, stay realistic, and focus on long-term improvement rather than overnight changes.

You got this.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? Feel free to PM me or respond to the thread.

Thank you guys for reading — I hope this helps anyone looking for eye-area advice. Please share and rep :)

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@norwoodingmanlet
@Navity
lmk if this is better
Bro just get surgery please stop this shit

Canthoplasty
 
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In this updated guide I’ll be going over the softmax procedures I used to ascend my eye area, and showing how my eyes changed over roughly 6 months.

I’ll start off by showing the progression.

Here is the first photo, taken on December 26th. This was around 3 weeks after I began working on my eye area.

View attachment 5086829

Another example from a few days later:

View attachment 5086830

NOTE — When people compare these early photos to the newer ones, many point out that I’m looking in a different direction. This is true. In the original photos, I was looking at my eyes on my phone screen rather than directly into the camera. At the time I didn’t understand how to take proper photos, which definitely affects presentation.

Here is a progress photo taken on March 30th:

View attachment 5086617

IMPORTANT PART —

This photo was taken May 10th, 2026.


View attachment 5084152


Obviously this is a more ideal angle, so I also took 3 more photos on May 18th from slightly different angles:

View attachment 5084160View attachment 5084161View attachment 5084162

Morning of May 19th from another angle:

View attachment 5086776

A lot of people immediately point to “frauding” whenever they see major eye-area changes. SPOILER — some of that criticism is fair. Angles, lighting, tension, expression, and camera distance all matter heavily. I will talk about that later.

The biggest change for me was the appearance of my canthal tilt improving from slightly neutral/negative to more positive-looking. When I originally asked forums for advice, almost every response I received was “surgery.” I still experimented with methods consistently anyway, and over time the changes started stacking.

BEFORE NOTE —

A lot of these methods depend heavily on your base genetics and bone structure. Bone structure determines most of your overall eye shape, orbital support, depth, and proportions. You can improve presentation and surrounding tissue, but you are not fully changing your anatomy.

With that being said, let’s get into it.

(Watch the videos fully — they are by far the easiest way for me to explain things.)

EYEBROWS/LASHES —

I use around 2 pea-sized amounts of topical minoxidil foam across each eyebrow. While the minoxidil is setting in, I lightly derma roll the area a few times. Once it dries, I apply The Ordinary lash and brow serum. Lashes I do the same but with smaller ammounts and no derma.

For shaping, I trim hairs at extreme peaks/dips in the brow shape to make them appear cleaner and more straight.

IMPORTANT — don’t overtrim. I accidentally shaved part of my right eyebrow at one point, and the hairs grew back unevenly. Minoxidil especially can also cause eyebrow hairs to grow in random directions when regrowing.

EYEBROW / NASAL BRIDGE —

I experimented a lot with bonesmashing around the inner brow ridge and nasal bridge area. Personally, I felt like this changed the overall appearance and mass around the area over time, although I know this is heavily debated, and also difficult to separate from lighting, swelling, body fat changes, and natural maturing.

I’ll also say this, impact methods around the face come with obvious risks, do not be reckless.

UEE (UPPER EYELID EXPOSURE) —


View attachment 5086451

This is another one of the most debated changes, often blamed entirely on “frauding.”

In my experience, controlling UEE does involve muscle activation. At first, it isn’t truly relaxed, but over time you can train the muscles involved so the expression becomes more natural and subconscious.

One method I practiced was pinning my lashes upward while activating the muscles above the eyelid during blinking motions. you should feel strain deeper behind the brow area. My theory is that consistent control of these muscles changes how the upper eyelid sits and presents.

View attachment 5086430View attachment 5086431View attachment 5086432

It’s also important to maintain lower, more relaxed brow posture rather than constantly raising the eyebrows.

UNDER-EYES —


View attachment 5086448


For under-eyes, I mainly focused on hydration, sleep, skincare, and massage.

I use a thick moisturizing eye cream and massage upward toward the temples. Sleep and water intake mattered more than almost anything else. If those were bad, my eye area looked noticeably worse no matter what else I did.

INNER CANTHUS / EYE SHAPE EXPERIMENTATION —

PREWARNING — the eye area is extremely delicate and any experimentation around it carries obvious risk.

METHOD #1
View attachment 5086449
Safer, tense up your eyes while pushing and away with a sharp object. This is more of a “forming”, simply encourages the canthus to build into a point.

METHOD 2#
View attachment 5086450
Make small cut along the same line, down and away. This is more genuine cutting, where you are actually reshaping the muscle and skin. I use very little pressure, I have never drawn blood. Occasionally, I will feel slight stinging or irritation the day after, but its never lasted the entire day.

Do NOT underestimate the possibility of injury in this area.

FRAUDING —

Many users point out possible frauding. Yes guys, I am frauding to some extent.

The easiest way for me to explain this is through the March photos and the injury itself.

The open wound 😭:
View attachment 5086674

A few days later:
View attachment 5086705

The result:

View attachment 5086617

The asymmetry is obvious. The scar across my right brow changed the presentation of that eye noticeably. Ironically, the injured side ended up with better tilt appearance and lower UEE, while the left side did not.

To balance symmetry, I raise or tense the lower lid on my left side slightly. Over time though, I’ve noticed I need to consciously do this less and less.

AFTER NOTE —

The most important thing throughout any of this is consistency. Most changes happen slowly and subtly over months: sleep, hydration, grooming, skincare, brow posture + growth, and muscle habits all stack over time.

Be patient, stay realistic, and focus on long-term improvement rather than overnight changes.

You got this.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? Feel free to PM me or respond to the thread.

Thank you guys for reading — I hope this helps anyone looking for eye-area advice. Please share and rep :)

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@norwoodingmanlet
@Navity
lmk if this is better
I remember i was young and got just a lip infection

Even that spread and went to my nose and doctors explained blindness is a real concern if it worsens and that wasnt even on my eye

Think about if your eye area got infected

Itd be over for you and you might need tissue removed
 
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Bro just get surgery please stop this shit

Canthoplasty
I remember i was young and got just a lip infection

Even that spread and went to my nose and doctors explained blindness is a real concern if it worsens and that wasnt even on my eye

Think about if your eye area got infected

Itd be over for you and you might need tissue removed
i appreciate you rereading, I understand the risks are high. Most cases I wouldnt consider doing this, but I came from a place with such hatred and discrimination simply from the way i looked, if i can help others i intend too. I tried to make sure the methods were obviously dangerous and had potential for serious injury. I plan on fat grating since its less invasive and more relaxed healing process. Thanks again mate, I hope we can find each other in threads in the future as friends.:feelsokman:
 
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In this updated guide I’ll be going over the softmax procedures I used to ascend my eye area, and showing how my eyes changed over roughly 6 months.

I’ll start off by showing the progression.

Here is the first photo, taken on December 26th. This was around 3 weeks after I began working on my eye area.

View attachment 5086829

Another example from a few days later:

View attachment 5086830

NOTE — When people compare these early photos to the newer ones, many point out that I’m looking in a different direction. This is true. In the original photos, I was looking at my eyes on my phone screen rather than directly into the camera. At the time I didn’t understand how to take proper photos, which definitely affects presentation.

Here is a progress photo taken on March 30th:

View attachment 5086617

IMPORTANT PART —

This photo was taken May 10th, 2026.


View attachment 5084152


Obviously this is a more ideal angle, so I also took 3 more photos on May 18th from slightly different angles:

View attachment 5084160View attachment 5084161View attachment 5084162

Morning of May 19th from another angle:

View attachment 5086776

A lot of people immediately point to “frauding” whenever they see major eye-area changes. SPOILER — some of that criticism is fair. Angles, lighting, tension, expression, and camera distance all matter heavily. I will talk about that later.

The biggest change for me was the appearance of my canthal tilt improving from slightly neutral/negative to more positive-looking. When I originally asked forums for advice, almost every response I received was “surgery.” I still experimented with methods consistently anyway, and over time the changes started stacking.

BEFORE NOTE —

A lot of these methods depend heavily on your base genetics and bone structure. Bone structure determines most of your overall eye shape, orbital support, depth, and proportions. You can improve presentation and surrounding tissue, but you are not fully changing your anatomy.

With that being said, let’s get into it.

(Watch the videos fully — they are by far the easiest way for me to explain things.)

EYEBROWS/LASHES —

I use around 2 pea-sized amounts of topical minoxidil foam across each eyebrow. While the minoxidil is setting in, I lightly derma roll the area a few times. Once it dries, I apply The Ordinary lash and brow serum. Lashes I do the same but with smaller ammounts and no derma.

For shaping, I trim hairs at extreme peaks/dips in the brow shape to make them appear cleaner and more straight.

IMPORTANT — don’t overtrim. I accidentally shaved part of my right eyebrow at one point, and the hairs grew back unevenly. Minoxidil especially can also cause eyebrow hairs to grow in random directions when regrowing.

EYEBROW / NASAL BRIDGE —

I experimented a lot with bonesmashing around the inner brow ridge and nasal bridge area. Personally, I felt like this changed the overall appearance and mass around the area over time, although I know this is heavily debated, and also difficult to separate from lighting, swelling, body fat changes, and natural maturing.

I’ll also say this, impact methods around the face come with obvious risks, do not be reckless.

UEE (UPPER EYELID EXPOSURE) —


View attachment 5086451

This is another one of the most debated changes, often blamed entirely on “frauding.”

In my experience, controlling UEE does involve muscle activation. At first, it isn’t truly relaxed, but over time you can train the muscles involved so the expression becomes more natural and subconscious.

One method I practiced was pinning my lashes upward while activating the muscles above the eyelid during blinking motions. you should feel strain deeper behind the brow area. My theory is that consistent control of these muscles changes how the upper eyelid sits and presents.

View attachment 5086430View attachment 5086431View attachment 5086432

It’s also important to maintain lower, more relaxed brow posture rather than constantly raising the eyebrows.

UNDER-EYES —


View attachment 5086448


For under-eyes, I mainly focused on hydration, sleep, skincare, and massage.

I use a thick moisturizing eye cream and massage upward toward the temples. Sleep and water intake mattered more than almost anything else. If those were bad, my eye area looked noticeably worse no matter what else I did.

INNER CANTHUS / EYE SHAPE EXPERIMENTATION —

PREWARNING — the eye area is extremely delicate and any experimentation around it carries obvious risk.

METHOD #1
View attachment 5086449
Safer, tense up your eyes while pushing and away with a sharp object. This is more of a “forming”, simply encourages the canthus to build into a point.

METHOD 2#
View attachment 5086450
Make small cut along the same line, down and away. This is more genuine cutting, where you are actually reshaping the muscle and skin. I use very little pressure, I have never drawn blood. Occasionally, I will feel slight stinging or irritation the day after, but its never lasted the entire day.

Do NOT underestimate the possibility of injury in this area.

FRAUDING —

Many users point out possible frauding. Yes guys, I am frauding to some extent.

The easiest way for me to explain this is through the March photos and the injury itself.

The open wound 😭:
View attachment 5086674

A few days later:
View attachment 5086705

The result:

View attachment 5086617

The asymmetry is obvious. The scar across my right brow changed the presentation of that eye noticeably. Ironically, the injured side ended up with better tilt appearance and lower UEE, while the left side did not.

To balance symmetry, I raise or tense the lower lid on my left side slightly. Over time though, I’ve noticed I need to consciously do this less and less.

AFTER NOTE —

The most important thing throughout any of this is consistency. Most changes happen slowly and subtly over months: sleep, hydration, grooming, skincare, brow posture + growth, and muscle habits all stack over time.

Be patient, stay realistic, and focus on long-term improvement rather than overnight changes.

You got this.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? Feel free to PM me or respond to the thread.

Thank you guys for reading — I hope this helps anyone looking for eye-area advice. Please share and rep :)

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@Navity
lmk if this is better
Never tag me in ANY of our shitty bull shit "threads".
 
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your retarded holy shit
 
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@Kara lmk what you think of this friend, I tried redoing it do fit more peoples liking:feelsyay:
 
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and hows that
eye area is not fixable with softmaxes apart from brow hair and eyelashes

your coping and cuting your eyes instead of just getting surgeries

this is severely retarded and dumb
 
eye area is not fixable with softmaxes apart from brow hair and eyelashes

your coping and cuting your eyes instead of just getting surgeries

this is severely retarded and dumb
and so the physical changes that have happened, which again I feel look fairly obvious, specifically with the UEE. what happened with that? or the sharper angle of my tear troughs? Thats not angling there was changes to the skin
 
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nah yk what bro, I read each molecul. ur very cever and smart boi. keep doing what you are doing.
well im gonna mate, idk why you think id stop cus ive got an incell telling me it doesnt work. my lifes changed, and my eyes are a huge reason for that🤷‍♂️
 
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and so the physical changes that have happened, which again I feel look fairly obvious, specifically with the UEE. what happened with that? or the sharper angle of my tear troughs? Thats not angling there was changes to the skin
i dont see any difference son

the only difference is your brow hairs and eyelashes
 
i dont see any difference son

the only difference is your brow hairs and eyelashes
IMG 9153
IMG 9152

please friend, i have no way to show this any better, this tips dont appear sharper? or “more pointed”? it looks so obvious to me, i apologize if i come off hostile
IMG 9154

here im trying to show with the green, is the flap of skin thats now covering the upper part of my eyelid, while compared to the red where the entire eyelid is visible.
 
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Son, you’re wasting your time trying to prove anything to anyone on this forum. Relay the info, and if they don’t wanna try it, they don’t want to.

Only you know if you truly ascended or not, and frankly, that’s all that matters.
 
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Son, you’re wasting your time trying to prove anything to anyone on this forum. Relay the info, and if they don’t wanna try it, they don’t want to.

Only you know if you truly ascended or not, and frankly, that’s all that matters.
I know, but its hard to know the work isnt appreciated, lots of time and energy has gone into it overall yk? not just the thread, but the 6 months of fixation
 
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lmk what yall think of the updates:feelsyay:
 
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@fedecope you too😉
 
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Son, you’re wasting your time trying to prove anything to anyone on this forum. Relay the info, and if they don’t wanna try it, they don’t want to.

Only you know if you truly ascended or not, and frankly, that’s all that matters.
Agreed with this
 
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i appreciate you rereading, I understand the risks are high. Most cases I wouldnt consider doing this, but I came from a place with such hatred and discrimination simply from the way i looked, if i can help others i intend too. I tried to make sure the methods were obviously dangerous and had potential for serious injury. I plan on fat grating since its less invasive and more relaxed healing process. Thanks again mate, I hope we can find each other in threads in the future as friends.:feelsokman:
no worries bro


we are friends i just hated on u bc what u did hurt u jfl i dont like ppl getting hurt

keep ur head up and dont cut ur eyes get surgery
 
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no worries bro


we are friends i just hated on u bc what u did hurt u jfl i dont like ppl getting hurt

keep ur head up and dont cut ur eyes get surgery
good man

ill reach out when surgeries are plausible to update:feelsyay:
 
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In this updated guide I’ll be going over the softmax procedures I used to ascend my eye area, and showing how my eyes changed over roughly 6 months.

I’ll start off by showing the progression.

Here is the first photo, taken on December 26th. This was around 3 weeks after I began working on my eye area.

View attachment 5086829

Another example from a few days later:

View attachment 5086830

NOTE — When people compare these early photos to the newer ones, many point out that I’m looking in a different direction. This is true. In the original photos, I was looking at my eyes on my phone screen rather than directly into the camera. At the time I didn’t understand how to take proper photos, which definitely affects presentation.

Here is a progress photo taken on March 30th:

View attachment 5086617

IMPORTANT PART —

This photo was taken May 10th, 2026.


View attachment 5084152


Obviously this is a more ideal angle, so I also took 3 more photos on May 18th from slightly different angles:

View attachment 5084160View attachment 5084161View attachment 5084162

Morning of May 19th from another angle:

View attachment 5086776

A lot of people immediately point to “frauding” whenever they see major eye-area changes. SPOILER — some of that criticism is fair. Angles, lighting, tension, expression, and camera distance all matter heavily. I will talk about that later.

The biggest change for me was the appearance of my canthal tilt improving from slightly neutral/negative to more positive-looking. When I originally asked forums for advice, almost every response I received was “surgery.” I still experimented with methods consistently anyway, and over time the changes started stacking.

BEFORE NOTE —

A lot of these methods depend heavily on your base genetics and bone structure. Bone structure determines most of your overall eye shape, orbital support, depth, and proportions. You can improve presentation and surrounding tissue, but you are not fully changing your anatomy.

With that being said, let’s get into it.

(Watch the videos fully — they are by far the easiest way for me to explain things.)

EYEBROWS/LASHES —

I use around 2 pea-sized amounts of topical minoxidil foam across each eyebrow. While the minoxidil is setting in, I lightly derma roll the area a few times. Once it dries, I apply The Ordinary lash and brow serum. Lashes I do the same but with smaller ammounts and no derma.

For shaping, I trim hairs at extreme peaks/dips in the brow shape to make them appear cleaner and more straight.

IMPORTANT — don’t overtrim. I accidentally shaved part of my right eyebrow at one point, and the hairs grew back unevenly. Minoxidil especially can also cause eyebrow hairs to grow in random directions when regrowing.

EYEBROW / NASAL BRIDGE —

I experimented a lot with bonesmashing around the inner brow ridge and nasal bridge area. Personally, I felt like this changed the overall appearance and mass around the area over time, although I know this is heavily debated, and also difficult to separate from lighting, swelling, body fat changes, and natural maturing.

I’ll also say this, impact methods around the face come with obvious risks, do not be reckless.

UEE (UPPER EYELID EXPOSURE) —


View attachment 5086451

This is another one of the most debated changes, often blamed entirely on “frauding.”

In my experience, controlling UEE does involve muscle activation. At first, it isn’t truly relaxed, but over time you can train the muscles involved so the expression becomes more natural and subconscious.

One method I practiced was pinning my lashes upward while activating the muscles above the eyelid during blinking motions. you should feel strain deeper behind the brow area. My theory is that consistent control of these muscles changes how the upper eyelid sits and presents.

View attachment 5086430View attachment 5086431View attachment 5086432

It’s also important to maintain lower, more relaxed brow posture rather than constantly raising the eyebrows.

UNDER-EYES —


View attachment 5086448


For under-eyes, I mainly focused on hydration, sleep, skincare, and massage.

I use a thick moisturizing eye cream and massage upward toward the temples. Sleep and water intake mattered more than almost anything else. If those were bad, my eye area looked noticeably worse no matter what else I did.

INNER CANTHUS / EYE SHAPE EXPERIMENTATION —

PREWARNING — the eye area is extremely delicate and any experimentation around it carries obvious risk.

METHOD #1
View attachment 5086449
Safer, tense up your eyes while pushing and away with a sharp object. This is more of a “forming”, simply encourages the canthus to build into a point.

METHOD 2#
View attachment 5086450
Make small cut along the same line, down and away. This is more genuine cutting, where you are actually reshaping the muscle and skin. I use very little pressure, I have never drawn blood. Occasionally, I will feel slight stinging or irritation the day after, but its never lasted the entire day.

Do NOT underestimate the possibility of injury in this area.

FRAUDING —

Many users point out possible frauding. Yes guys, I am frauding to some extent.

The easiest way for me to explain this is through the March photos and the injury itself.

The open wound 😭:
View attachment 5086674

A few days later:
View attachment 5086705

The result:

View attachment 5086617

The asymmetry is obvious. The scar across my right brow changed the presentation of that eye noticeably. Ironically, the injured side ended up with better tilt appearance and lower UEE, while the left side did not.

To balance symmetry, I raise or tense the lower lid on my left side slightly. Over time though, I’ve noticed I need to consciously do this less and less.

AFTER NOTE —

The most important thing throughout any of this is consistency. Most changes happen slowly and subtly over months: sleep, hydration, grooming, skincare, brow posture + growth, and muscle habits all stack over time.

Be patient, stay realistic, and focus on long-term improvement rather than overnight changes.

You got this.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? Feel free to PM me or respond to the thread.

Thank you guys for reading — I hope this helps anyone looking for eye-area advice. Please share and rep :)

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@Navity
lmk if this is better
Mirin dawg

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In this updated guide I’ll be going over the softmax procedures I used to ascend my eye area, and showing how my eyes changed over roughly 6 months.

I’ll start off by showing the progression.

Here is the first photo, taken on December 26th. This was around 3 weeks after I began working on my eye area.

View attachment 5086829

Another example from a few days later:

View attachment 5086830

NOTE — When people compare these early photos to the newer ones, many point out that I’m looking in a different direction. This is true. In the original photos, I was looking at my eyes on my phone screen rather than directly into the camera. At the time I didn’t understand how to take proper photos, which definitely affects presentation.

Here is a progress photo taken on March 30th:

View attachment 5086617

IMPORTANT PART —

This photo was taken May 10th, 2026.


View attachment 5084152


Obviously this is a more ideal angle, so I also took 3 more photos on May 18th from slightly different angles:

View attachment 5084160View attachment 5084161View attachment 5084162

Morning of May 19th from another angle:

View attachment 5086776

A lot of people immediately point to “frauding” whenever they see major eye-area changes. SPOILER — some of that criticism is fair. Angles, lighting, tension, expression, and camera distance all matter heavily. I will talk about that later.

The biggest change for me was the appearance of my canthal tilt improving from slightly neutral/negative to more positive-looking. When I originally asked forums for advice, almost every response I received was “surgery.” I still experimented with methods consistently anyway, and over time the changes started stacking.

BEFORE NOTE —

A lot of these methods depend heavily on your base genetics and bone structure. Bone structure determines most of your overall eye shape, orbital support, depth, and proportions. You can improve presentation and surrounding tissue, but you are not fully changing your anatomy.

With that being said, let’s get into it.

(Watch the videos fully — they are by far the easiest way for me to explain things.)

EYEBROWS/LASHES —

I use around 2 pea-sized amounts of topical minoxidil foam across each eyebrow. While the minoxidil is setting in, I lightly derma roll the area a few times. Once it dries, I apply The Ordinary lash and brow serum. Lashes I do the same but with smaller ammounts and no derma.

For shaping, I trim hairs at extreme peaks/dips in the brow shape to make them appear cleaner and more straight.

IMPORTANT — don’t overtrim. I accidentally shaved part of my right eyebrow at one point, and the hairs grew back unevenly. Minoxidil especially can also cause eyebrow hairs to grow in random directions when regrowing.

EYEBROW / NASAL BRIDGE —

I experimented a lot with bonesmashing around the inner brow ridge and nasal bridge area. Personally, I felt like this changed the overall appearance and mass around the area over time, although I know this is heavily debated, and also difficult to separate from lighting, swelling, body fat changes, and natural maturing.

I’ll also say this, impact methods around the face come with obvious risks, do not be reckless.

UEE (UPPER EYELID EXPOSURE) —


View attachment 5086451

This is another one of the most debated changes, often blamed entirely on “frauding.”

In my experience, controlling UEE does involve muscle activation. At first, it isn’t truly relaxed, but over time you can train the muscles involved so the expression becomes more natural and subconscious.

One method I practiced was pinning my lashes upward while activating the muscles above the eyelid during blinking motions. you should feel strain deeper behind the brow area. My theory is that consistent control of these muscles changes how the upper eyelid sits and presents.

View attachment 5086430View attachment 5086431View attachment 5086432

It’s also important to maintain lower, more relaxed brow posture rather than constantly raising the eyebrows.

UNDER-EYES —


View attachment 5086448


For under-eyes, I mainly focused on hydration, sleep, skincare, and massage.

I use a thick moisturizing eye cream and massage upward toward the temples. Sleep and water intake mattered more than almost anything else. If those were bad, my eye area looked noticeably worse no matter what else I did.

INNER CANTHUS / EYE SHAPE EXPERIMENTATION —

PREWARNING — the eye area is extremely delicate and any experimentation around it carries obvious risk.

METHOD #1
View attachment 5086449
Safer, tense up your eyes while pushing and away with a sharp object. This is more of a “forming”, simply encourages the canthus to build into a point.

METHOD 2#
View attachment 5086450
Make small cut along the same line, down and away. This is more genuine cutting, where you are actually reshaping the muscle and skin. I use very little pressure, I have never drawn blood. Occasionally, I will feel slight stinging or irritation the day after, but its never lasted the entire day.

Do NOT underestimate the possibility of injury in this area.

FRAUDING —

Many users point out possible frauding. Yes guys, I am frauding to some extent.

The easiest way for me to explain this is through the March photos and the injury itself.

The open wound 😭:
View attachment 5086674

A few days later:
View attachment 5086705

The result:

View attachment 5086617

The asymmetry is obvious. The scar across my right brow changed the presentation of that eye noticeably. Ironically, the injured side ended up with better tilt appearance and lower UEE, while the left side did not.

To balance symmetry, I raise or tense the lower lid on my left side slightly. Over time though, I’ve noticed I need to consciously do this less and less.

AFTER NOTE —

The most important thing throughout any of this is consistency. Most changes happen slowly and subtly over months: sleep, hydration, grooming, skincare, brow posture + growth, and muscle habits all stack over time.

Be patient, stay realistic, and focus on long-term improvement rather than overnight changes.

You got this.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? Feel free to PM me or respond to the thread.

Thank you guys for reading — I hope this helps anyone looking for eye-area advice. Please share and rep :)

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@Navity
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canthus still looks like shit , cut it more :forcedsmile:
 
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In this updated guide I’ll be going over the softmax procedures I used to ascend my eye area, and showing how my eyes changed over roughly 6 months.

I’ll start off by showing the progression.

Here is the first photo, taken on December 26th. This was around 3 weeks after I began working on my eye area.

View attachment 5086829

Another example from a few days later:

View attachment 5086830

NOTE — When people compare these early photos to the newer ones, many point out that I’m looking in a different direction. This is true. In the original photos, I was looking at my eyes on my phone screen rather than directly into the camera. At the time I didn’t understand how to take proper photos, which definitely affects presentation.

Here is a progress photo taken on March 30th:

View attachment 5086617

IMPORTANT PART —

This photo was taken May 10th, 2026.


View attachment 5084152


Obviously this is a more ideal angle, so I also took 3 more photos on May 18th from slightly different angles:

View attachment 5084160View attachment 5084161View attachment 5084162

Morning of May 19th from another angle:

View attachment 5086776

A lot of people immediately point to “frauding” whenever they see major eye-area changes. SPOILER — some of that criticism is fair. Angles, lighting, tension, expression, and camera distance all matter heavily. I will talk about that later.

The biggest change for me was the appearance of my canthal tilt improving from slightly neutral/negative to more positive-looking. When I originally asked forums for advice, almost every response I received was “surgery.” I still experimented with methods consistently anyway, and over time the changes started stacking.

BEFORE NOTE —

A lot of these methods depend heavily on your base genetics and bone structure. Bone structure determines most of your overall eye shape, orbital support, depth, and proportions. You can improve presentation and surrounding tissue, but you are not fully changing your anatomy.

With that being said, let’s get into it.

(Watch the videos fully — they are by far the easiest way for me to explain things.)

EYEBROWS/LASHES —

I use around 2 pea-sized amounts of topical minoxidil foam across each eyebrow. While the minoxidil is setting in, I lightly derma roll the area a few times. Once it dries, I apply The Ordinary lash and brow serum. Lashes I do the same but with smaller ammounts and no derma.

For shaping, I trim hairs at extreme peaks/dips in the brow shape to make them appear cleaner and more straight.

IMPORTANT — don’t overtrim. I accidentally shaved part of my right eyebrow at one point, and the hairs grew back unevenly. Minoxidil especially can also cause eyebrow hairs to grow in random directions when regrowing.

EYEBROW / NASAL BRIDGE —

I experimented a lot with bonesmashing around the inner brow ridge and nasal bridge area. Personally, I felt like this changed the overall appearance and mass around the area over time, although I know this is heavily debated, and also difficult to separate from lighting, swelling, body fat changes, and natural maturing.

I’ll also say this, impact methods around the face come with obvious risks, do not be reckless.

UEE (UPPER EYELID EXPOSURE) —


View attachment 5086451

This is another one of the most debated changes, often blamed entirely on “frauding.”

In my experience, controlling UEE does involve muscle activation. At first, it isn’t truly relaxed, but over time you can train the muscles involved so the expression becomes more natural and subconscious.

One method I practiced was pinning my lashes upward while activating the muscles above the eyelid during blinking motions. you should feel strain deeper behind the brow area. My theory is that consistent control of these muscles changes how the upper eyelid sits and presents.

View attachment 5086430View attachment 5086431View attachment 5086432

It’s also important to maintain lower, more relaxed brow posture rather than constantly raising the eyebrows.

UNDER-EYES —


View attachment 5086448


For under-eyes, I mainly focused on hydration, sleep, skincare, and massage.

I use a thick moisturizing eye cream and massage upward toward the temples. Sleep and water intake mattered more than almost anything else. If those were bad, my eye area looked noticeably worse no matter what else I did.

INNER CANTHUS / EYE SHAPE EXPERIMENTATION —

PREWARNING — the eye area is extremely delicate and any experimentation around it carries obvious risk.

METHOD #1
View attachment 5086449
Safer, tense up your eyes while pushing and away with a sharp object. This is more of a “forming”, simply encourages the canthus to build into a point.

METHOD 2#
View attachment 5086450
Make small cut along the same line, down and away. This is more genuine cutting, where you are actually reshaping the muscle and skin. I use very little pressure, I have never drawn blood. Occasionally, I will feel slight stinging or irritation the day after, but its never lasted the entire day.

Do NOT underestimate the possibility of injury in this area.

FRAUDING —

Many users point out possible frauding. Yes guys, I am frauding to some extent.

The easiest way for me to explain this is through the March photos and the injury itself.

The open wound 😭:
View attachment 5086674

A few days later:
View attachment 5086705

The result:

View attachment 5086617

The asymmetry is obvious. The scar across my right brow changed the presentation of that eye noticeably. Ironically, the injured side ended up with better tilt appearance and lower UEE, while the left side did not.

To balance symmetry, I raise or tense the lower lid on my left side slightly. Over time though, I’ve noticed I need to consciously do this less and less.

AFTER NOTE —

The most important thing throughout any of this is consistency. Most changes happen slowly and subtly over months: sleep, hydration, grooming, skincare, brow posture + growth, and muscle habits all stack over time.

Be patient, stay realistic, and focus on long-term improvement rather than overnight changes.

You got this.

ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS? Feel free to PM me or respond to the thread.

Thank you guys for reading — I hope this helps anyone looking for eye-area advice. Please share and rep :)

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@Navity
lmk if this is better
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cant stop till we there:feelshah:
no one beside you is gonna be willing to try this Probally but if this really does work as well as you claim it will then it’d be a breakthrough very risky tho I really dnr so how would you mitigate the risk of infection?
 
no one beside you is gonna be willing to try this Probally but if this really does work as well as you claim it will then it’d be a breakthrough very risky tho I really dnr so how would you mitigate the risk of infection?
lol i assume so, however for those who were in as desperate of a situation as I was, i believe it can help. alcohol wipes before and sauve after cutting, ive actually seen people use alcohol wipes after as well. also disinfecting the knife prior to use is recommended.
 
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lol i assume so, however for those who were in as desperate of a situation as I was, i believe it can help. alcohol wipes before and sauve after cutting, ive actually seen people use alcohol wipes after as well. also disinfecting the knife prior to use is recommended.
remake this thread once you’ve got the results you wanted to achieve I really wanna see how well this can actually work just out of curiosity can you mention me in it? If you decide to
 
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