Eye Color on Attraction, Trustworthiness, & Perceived Dominance

[coolguy1]

"Brown-eyed males were rated more dominant because they generally had more facial features that influence perceived dominance than the blue-eyed males in the study."

Keep reading bro

Are you retarded

 

[Deleted member 795]

Are you retarded

Are you?

 

[Detona]

Hi guys, this thread is pure cope. I will explain why:


The study that said blue eyes are linked to less dominant facial features is wrong. The same authors repeated the same experiment 2 years later in other countries and got the opposite results: blue eyed men were actually rated as more dominant-looking than brown eyed men.

DO DOMINANT-LOOKING MALES HAVE BROWN EYES? A FURTHER INVESTIGATION OF THE ROLE OF IRIS COLOUR FOR DOMINANCE PERCEPTION on JSTOR

ABSTRACT: The eyes represent a conspicuous facial element of unique appearance; they play an important role in signalling and communication within many animal s...

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"Controlling for sample and location, we showed that there is no statistically significant relationship between eye colour and perceived dominance: Prague (P = 0.822), Ústí nad Labem (P = 0.778), and Tartu (P = 0.565). These negative results thus contradict the previous study, wherein males with brown eyes were perceived as more dominant than males with blue eyes. In this study we consider the possible local-specific differences and confounding random factors which might be responsible for the previous positive results on an association between eye colour and the perception of dominance."

This means that this research fails replification, and can be considered meaningless. This is very common in clinical psychiatry and other questionable humanities fields.

Replication crisis - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

I highly doubt that blue eyes are associated with "less dominant" features. There's just no reason to even speculate about that.

However, the question remains: are blue eyes important? And thankfully, there is genetic and real-world evidence to answer that question.

As it turns out, blue eyes are genetically much more common in males than in females:

Gender is a major factor explaining discrepancies in eye colour prediction based on HERC2/OCA2 genotype and the IrisPlex model - PubMed

In recent years, several studies have greatly increased our understanding of the genetic basis underlying human eye colour variation. A large percentage of the eye colour diversity present in humans can already be genetically explained, so much so that different DNA-based eye colour prediction...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

When comparing similar eye colour genetic profiles, females tend, as a whole, to have darker eyes than males (and, conversely, males lighter than females). These results are also corroborated by the revision and meta-analysis of data from previously published eye colour genetic studies in several Caucasian populations, which significantly support the fact that males are more likely to have blue eyes than females, while females tend to show higher frequencies of green and brown eyes than males."

Wow! That tells us blue eyes must be an important trait for males to have. But exactly what kind of male is blue eyed?


Over 90% of U.S. Presidents have been blue eyed:

The Blue-eyed Edge in the Oval Office

George Washington, whose birthday we celebrate today, was famous for his steely blue eyes. We know this thanks to the many portraits that Ch...

elephantsinthebluegrass.blogspot.com

... in all of U.S. history, only five presidents had brown eyes – John Quincy Adams, Andrew Johnson, Chester A. Arthur, LBJ and Nixon. All the rest were clearly described with blue, grey, or hazel eyes.

Two of our three presidents who faced serious impeachment proceedings (Andrew Johnson and Richard Nixon) were among our brown-eyed minority. The other three brownies (John Quincy Adams, Chester A. Arthur, and Lyndon Johnson) all hoped to win an additional term as president but failed to do, falling victim to bitter political critics and rivals.

According to the above link, Hillary Clinton, former US presidential candidate, actually changed her eye color from hazel to blue.

And what about sports? Well, NFL quarterbacks are unusually blue eyed:

As important to an NFL quarterback as arm strength or height, speed or intelligence, is the one characteristic that is largely ignored by the sporting community. A quarterback must have blue eyes."

Intrigued, I did a little research with the help of Google and NFL.com, and it turns out that over 80% of Superbowls have been won by Quarterback with blue eyes, a ratio of over 4 to 1. What’s more, of the twenty-three modern era quarterbacks in the NFL Hall of Fame, twenty-one have light colored eyes. That is not a misprint. That is over 90%. If you were to include guaranteed first ballot HOFer’s Peyton Manning, Bret Favre and Tom Brady, it climbs to an astounding twenty four of twenty six. (In 2014, no quarterbacks were voted as HOF semifinalist; however, of the six quarterbacks eligible, only sky blue-eyed Phil Simms has won a Superbowl, setting a record for completion percentage in the game and winning the Superbowl MVP award).

Only two Hall of Fame quarterbacks have brown eyes, Warren Moon and Otto Graham. For any coach in the NFL (or vegas bookie), this should be a stunning revelation. According to a New York Times article by Douglas Belkin, blue eyes make up less than twenty percent of the people born in the U.S. today, about 1 in 6. Even when you concede the fact that racism played a large part in the earlier days of the NFL (and some would say even now), and therefore use only statics from the population of Caucasian Americans for comparison, blue eyes are still only found at a rate of approximately 34%, or 1 in 3.

Well, there it is, folks. The United States trusts blue eyed men enough to consistently elect blue eyed politicians, in a country where only 1 in 6 people are blue eyed. In the 80% nonwhite NFL, players put their faith in blue eyes to throw the ball. And, in general, evolution seems to have favored the blue eye genes for males rather than females. This means beyond a shadow of a doubt that blue eyes matter.

That is not to say brown eyes are a handicap or disadvantage in any way. Brown eyed people should love and appreciate their own features. But for mysterious reasons, blue eyes are really punching above their weight in the realms that this topic concerns.[/QUOTE]

 

[Kingkellz]

The study that said blue eyes are linked to less dominant facial features is wrong. The same authors repeated the same experiment 2 years later in other countries and got the opposite results: blue eyed men were actually rated as more dominant-looking than brown eyed men.

They already came to a similar conclusion in the initial study...

I highly doubt that blue eyes are associated with "less dominant" features. There's just no reason to even speculate about that.

Are you a troll or just an extremely low IQ individual?
It's the facial features and not the eye color itself that dictates how trustworthy or dominant the faces appeared.
If you properly read the study or my thread you would have come across these portions:

(regarding trustworthiness)

To find out, the scientists used computer manipulation to take the same faces but change their eye colors. Without changing traits other than hue of the iris, the researchers swapped the eye colors of the test faces from blue to brown and vice versa. This time, the opposite effect was found. Despite the strange correlation to eye color, the team found that eye color didn't affect a photo's trustworthiness rating. So it isn't the eye color itself that really matters—something else about brown-eyed faces makes them seem more dependable.

(regarding dominance)

In order to find out whether it is eye color that specifically influences perceived dominance in males, and not other eye color-associated facial features, we changed the iris color of brown-eyed subjects to blue and vice versa.

With this manipulation, males with eye color changed
to blue (originally brown-eyed) were rated as more dominant than
males with brown colored irises (originally blue-eyed).

Mean differences of perceived dominance of subjects before and
after eye color manipulation were not different from zero which suggests that the color of iris itself had
no effect on perceived dominance.

Hi guys, this thread is pure cope. I will explain why:

All you did was reveal your ignorance and lack of reading and/or reading comprehension.

 

[Detona]

Earth-to-dumbshit, you have said literally nothing relevant to anything I said. Check the SECOND experiment the authors performed. In the second experiment blue eyed men were rated more dominant.

The entire hypothesis failed replication. That's the point. Your study is shit and your brains are shit. Stop fucking sucking.

 

[Kingkellz]

In the second experiment blue eyed men were rated more dominant.

You idiot, they already got a similar result the first time when they swapped the eye colors and kept the facial features the same.

In order to find out whether it is eye color that specifically influences perceived dominance in males, and not other eye color-associated facial features, we changed the iris color of brown-eyed subjects to blue and vice versa. With this manipulation, males with eye color changed
to blue (originally brown-eyed) were rated as more dominant than
males with brown colored irises (originally blue-eyed).

For the last time it's not about the eye color. It's the facial features that influence perceived dominance. That's the point of the study and the point I was getting at in the thread.

 

[Deleted member 15917]

anything but brown eyes is good

did you even read the thread??

 

[rawmilk]

anything but brown eyes is good

brutal

 

[277]

Told you @167s

 

[pengilk]

White women actually love men with dark eyes

 

[ArimaWillAscend]

Do colored eyes increases attractiveness?

The Blue-Eyes Stereotype: Do Eye Color, Pupil Diameter, and Scleral Color Affect Attractiveness? - Aesthetic Plastic Surgery

Background Blue eyes have been the embodiment of attractiveness not only for decades but even for centuries. The primary aim of this study was to determine whether iridal color, particularly color blue, can increase the attractiveness of a person’s eye area. As a secondary aim, the study...

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I personally think eye color can affect the attractiveness of the eye area but only if it is truly striking in color (kinda like Gandy). Many people with colored eyes that I see on a daily basis actually don't have a very striking color and can only be seen up close or in certain lightings. Things like scleral whiteness, pupil diameter, iris to pupil ratio, limbal rings, canthal tilt, eye depth, eye-shape, eyebrows, and eyelashes, etc matter a lot more.

But a ''blue eyed stereotype'' does exists.


Even though blue colored eyes are rated as attractive as other iridal colors people mention it more as a positive aspect.


A high inverse correlation was observed between attractiveness of the eye area and age.

Spoiler

Why do bright/white scleral color and large pupils positively affect attractiveness?


Pupil diameter decreases with age.

The Effects of Age, Refractive Status, and Luminance on Pupil Size - PubMed

Both age and refractive status were found to affect pupil size with larger pupils measured for younger patients and myopes. Designs for multifocal contact lens corrections should take both age and refractive status into consideration; a faster progression from distance to near corrections across...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Factors Affecting Light-Adapted Pupil Size in Normal Human Subjects


Women tend to have greater pupil diameters.

Women have bigger pupils than men

From an anatomical point of view, a normal, non-pathological eye is known as an emmetropic eye, and has been studied very little until now in comparison with myopic and hypermetropic eyes. The results show that healthy emmetropic women have a wider pupil diameter than men.

www.sciencedaily.com

I don't think there is much you can do to control what happens to your pupil diameter but you can do something about the whiteness of your sclera.

How to get whiter/brighter sclera?
Natural ways to get whiter sclera: get 7-8hrs of sleep, stay hydrated, wear UV protection sunglasses to prevent pterygium, eat yellow & orange fruits + veggies to prevent scleral redness
Surgical: Scleral whitening exists but it's very risky and many claim to experience complications.

Brown-eyed faces appear more trustworthy...

People With Brown Eyes Appear More Trustworthy, But That's Not The Whole Story

blogs.scientificamerican.com

But why?


What eye color associated features make brown-eyed men appear more trustworthy?


So what would happen if you swapped the eye colors while keeping the facial characteristics of each face the same?

It is the facial features associated with the eye color and not the eye color itself that dictates how trustworthy the faces appear.



Brown-eyed males rated more dominant than blue-eyed males...

Eye color predicts but does not directly influence perceived dominance in men

This study focuses on the relationship between eye color, gender, and psychological characteristics perceived from the human face. Photographs of 40 m…

www.sciencedirect.com

Faces used in the study
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But again, is it the eye color itself that influences perceived dominance or the facial traits/features that are associated with the eye color?
In short, it's the eye color associated features and not the eye color itself that influences perceived dominance.


What facial features are linked with higher perceived dominance?

What facial features are linked with submissiveness?



Brown-eyed males were rated more dominant because they generally had more facial features that influence perceived dominance than the blue-eyed males in the study.


In conclusion eye color correlates with other facial features that raters use to judge dominance. For example, brown-eyed men in the above study had broader chins, thicker eye-brows which are closer together, and larger noses; all of which may be viewed as the actual drivers of higher dominance ratings.

So If I understood it correctly, changing your eye color from blue to brown (or simply having brown eyes) won't necessarily increase perceived dominance unless you have other features that directly influence dominance such as thick eyebrows and/or broad squarish chins, hence the statement "Eye color correlates with other facial features that raters use to judge dominance."





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