eye erea = most important erea on face.

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

"Subjects spent the most time watching the eyes and mouth. A significant trend in gaze durations was found with the longest gaze duration on the mouth, followed by the eyes and then the nose. In addition, eye-gaze patterns changed across familiarization as subjects learned the word boundaries, showing decreased attention to the mouth in later blocks while attention on other facial features remained consistent. These findings highlight the importance of the visual component of speech processing and suggest that the mouth may play a critical role in visual speech segmentation."

I think people like to initally look at eyes more, but it's also a confrontational thing. so they will look at mouth most at first. And than later on,if comfortable with the person, more and more and more into the eyes.
in general.

Frontiers | Differential Gaze Patterns on Eyes and Mouth During Audiovisual Speech Segmentation

Speech is inextricably multisensory: both auditory and visual components provide critical information for all aspects of speech processing, including speech ...

www.frontiersin.org

The importance of nose in facial harmony

I'd argue that the nose is the most important factor in facial harmony. Humans recognize faces by the eyes, nose and mouth, and actually look at the nose FIRST. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/the-nose-knows-two-fixation-points-needed-for-face-recognition.html "during face...

looksmax.org

Nose= harmony
Nose= looking good in motion

Normies know the most about looks because they actually get sex. Eye area means nothing without eye color, good eye shape is very common unlike eye color

 

[Soalian]

brutals factors to improve.

While with a weak lower third. Maybe just getting an good heavy stubble, might fix/fraud it totally and one is good to go.

Even stubble may be better than clean-shaven in some cases, even for good lower thirds

 

[Soalian]

brutals factors to improve.

While with a weak lower third. Maybe just getting an good heavy stubble, might fix/fraud it totally and one is good to go.

How do you thicken skin all around eyes? My skin is so thin there,

since I had a round of topical corticosteroids a while ago on some areas of face, for unrelated reasons. Has thinned the f**k out of my facial skin

 

[datboijj]

The importance of nose in facial harmony

I'd argue that the nose is the most important factor in facial harmony. Humans recognize faces by the eyes, nose and mouth, and actually look at the nose FIRST. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/the-nose-knows-two-fixation-points-needed-for-face-recognition.html "during face...

looksmax.org

Nose= harmony
Nose= looking good in motion

Normies know the most about looks because they actually get sex. Eye area means nothing without eye color, good eye shape is very common unlike eye color

good eye shape is incredibly rare
Your idea of good eye shape is probably just something that isn't terrible
My idea of good eye shape is looking like a human version of a cat/eagle/wolf/snake etc

This is 200x more rare than a good jaw

 

[Be_ConfidentBro]

you just have to looks at eye erea's and in 90+% of cases you can predict accurately if the person is good looking or bad looking.

Damn I have good eye area but am an incel abomination

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

good eye shape is incredibly rare
Your idea of good eye shape is probably just something that isn't terrible
My idea of good eye shape is looking like a human version of a cat/eagle/wolf/snake etc

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This is 200x more rare than a good jaw

Entire african phenotypes have an eye shape like the first guy, it's literally nothing special without eye color (proving my point). Is the second person even a guy? He or she looks like an alien.

Eye shape probably matters for girls cuz it's feminine feature, but irrelevant for guys. A guy just needs non shitty eyes and he's good.

Never mentioned jaw btw, I said good nose which indeed is rare af. But a good jaw can save a face

 

[datboijj]

Entire african phenotypes have an eye shape like the first guy, it's literally nothing special without eye color (proving my point). Is the second person even a guy? He or she looks like an alien.

Never mentioned jaw btw, I said good nose which indeed is rare af. But a good jaw can save a face

This eye shape is common?

 

[Soalian]

good eye shape is incredibly rare
Your idea of good eye shape is probably just something that isn't terrible
My idea of good eye shape is looking like a human version of a cat/eagle/wolf/snake etc

View attachment 1105986
This is 200x more rare than a good jaw

There are some ways I improve my lower eyelid shape and overall canthal tilt appearance, with training of flexing oribicularis and malaris muscles

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

This eye shape is common?

He's frowning

 

[eduardkoopman]

How do you thicken skin all around eyes? My skin is so thin there,

since I had a round of topical corticosteroids a while ago on some areas of face, for unrelated reasons. Has thinned the f**k out of my facial skin

only thing i can think about it tretinoin.

 

[datboijj]

He's frowning

Fine I let you win this round because roddy also has top tear eye color and lashes
His eye shape doesn't do most of the work
Nose is verry important
and is basically needed for fluent harmony
BUT, when people describe attractive faces they always either say eyes, cheekbones and jaw
They never say nose (excluding ethnics)

 

[eduardkoopman]

Eye area means nothing without eye color, good eye shape is very common unlike eye color

Entire african phenotypes have an eye shape like the first guy, it's literally nothing special without eye color

Eye shape probably matters for girls cuz it's feminine feature, but irrelevant for guys. A guy just needs non shitty eyes and he's good.

WTF

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Fine I let you win this round because roddy also has top tear eye color and lashes
His eye shape doesn't do most of the work
Nose is verry important
and is basically needed for fluent harmony
BUT, when people describe attractive faces they always either say eyes, cheekbones and jaw
They never say nose (excluding ethnics)

It's because it's weird to say nose, but nose will always be the most important I think

 

[Soalian]

only thing i can think about it tretinoin.

Yes, unfortunately this goes with the subcutaneous fat loss, sigh,...

 

[Phillybeard1996]

How's his eye area?

 

[datboijj]

How's his eye area?

good but it looks too much like a girl
He over used filters

 

[Blackgymmax]

not a molecule

 

[Phillybeard1996]

good but it looks too much like a girl
He over used filters

Is he a masculine pretty boy?

 

[datboijj]

Is he a masculine pretty boy?

uh yes

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yes, unfortunately this goes with the subcutaneous fat loss, sigh,...

I know.
But also. tretinoin boosts skin cells renewal. So thicker skin should happen over time.

 

[eduardkoopman]

How's his eye area?

his eye erea is very very very good.

he has a great browridge, deepset eyes, neutral canthil tilt, blue eyes, very good thick eyebrows shape and decent under eye support.

His eye erea is top percentiles

 

[Phillybeard1996]

his eye erea is very very very good.

he has a great browridge, deepset eyes, neutral canthil tilt, blue eyes, very good thick eyebrows shape and decent under eye support.

His eye erea is top percentiles

Yea also im jelly of his eyelashes eyelashes even though dont pay a huge part they def play a role

 

[Soalian]

With the flexing of the Malaris muscle, it seems to tighten lower eyelid area, and also makes my slight NCT, into neutral,

I'm still considering lower eyelid retraction, and canthoplasty/canthopexy, but that's still a nice thing to do regardless

 

[eduardkoopman]

Eye area means nothing without eye color, good eye shape is very common unlike eye color

Time for a little bit of information and study time; on it's factor of importance of the eyes erea.
A decent video to watch.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

Time for a little bit of information and study time; on it's factor of importance of the eyes erea.
A decent video to watch.

I used to believe this stuff too, also this is information for models, which have very low smv

 

[StrangerDanger]

The importance of nose in facial harmony

I'd argue that the nose is the most important factor in facial harmony. Humans recognize faces by the eyes, nose and mouth, and actually look at the nose FIRST. https://www.psychologicalscience.org/news/releases/the-nose-knows-two-fixation-points-needed-for-face-recognition.html "during face...

looksmax.org

Nose= harmony
Nose= looking good in motion

Normies know the most about looks because they actually get sex. Eye area means nothing without eye color, good eye shape is very common unlike eye color

How the hell does River Phoenix have a sick nose, Sean's is much better

 

[Soalian]

Time for a little bit of information and study time; on it's factor of importance of the eyes erea.
A decent video to watch.

Left looks like the right one would be squinting hard lol

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Hunter eyes are cope
I get less matches if I squinch , much better results with neutral expression

 

[Deleted member 7580]

Entire african phenotypes have an eye shape like the first guy, it's literally nothing special without eye color (proving my point). Is the second person even a guy? He or she looks like an alien.

Eye shape probably matters for girls cuz it's feminine feature, but irrelevant for guys. A guy just needs non shitty eyes and he's good.

Never mentioned jaw btw, I said good nose which indeed is rare af. But a good jaw can save a face

This
Lots of Nigerians, Somalians etc have those eyes without color and are incels

 

[metagross]

Workd for women like that also.
true that.

you just have to looks at eye erea's and in 90+% of cases you can predict accurately if the person is good looking or bad looking.

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I will spare you all examples of females, with lesser eye erea's.

This is not that surprising. During the Covid-19 pandemic, your entire lower third, including nose, is covered with a mask.
Yet you can clearly tell with high confidence who is attractive and who isn't.

 

[eduardkoopman]

I used to believe this stuff too, also this is information for models, which have very low smv

I strongly disagree on low SMV quote of models. Som havelowish SMV, but most have much much much higher SMV than average dudes.

BTW. To add.
I saw your nose post.

I am not denying at all, that nose is an important facial feature.
Nose defenately matters significantly.

I recall, it (nose job) ascended Ryan Gossling from an above average man to a Chadlite.

 

[TheEndHasNoEnd]

I strongly disagree on low SMV quote of models. Som havelowish SMV, but most have much much much higher SMV than average dudes.

The only two mms I see girls like are chico and gandy, models are scouted for looking unique not for looking good to women

 

[eduardkoopman]

Hunter eyes are cope
I get less matches if I squinch , much better results with neutral expression

Probably because squinching, screws up your eye width to eye height ratio.
One needs naturally having hunter eyes. And not needing to fraud it with squinting. Causing chinese like eyes, and losing all almond shape.

 

[eduardkoopman]

The only two mms I see girls like are chico and gandy, models are scouted for looking unique not for looking good to women

It's true, that in modelling there are 2 markets:
1. unique appeal
2. broad appeal.

Some male models are low SMV, but great for certain marketin campaigns because gig unique.

WITH WOMEN, you have this also.
Tsunaina is quit known and well booked female model.
She gets chosen for giga uniqueness. Her SMV is not perse high towards most men.

 

[Deleted member 9819]

everything matters
i have basically the same eye are as 0:22 but without the coloring and still look un-harmonic as fuck

 

[eduardkoopman]

This is not that surprising. During the Covid-19 pandemic, your entire lower third, including nose, is covered with a mask.
Yet you can clearly tell with high confidence who is attractive and who isn't.

Ugly men and women when still in the womb, got Bogged by the Bogdanoffs.

 

[Descartes]

Wanna take a guess. Whom eye erea's they are?
They are both women, that are somewhat famous/known

The first one looks like the girl from your pfp, the second one I honestly have no clue

 

[eduardkoopman]

The first one looks like the girl from your pfp, the second one I honestly have no clue

Good guesses.

First one is female Model: Barbara Palvin.




2nd one, is french singer Alizée

 

[Descartes]

Good guesses.

First one is female Model: Barbara Palvin.




2nd one, is french singer Alizée

They are both extremely beautiful, the french one has the face of a child but in a good way, I think I like Barbara a bit more because she reminds me of a oneitis I had

 

[eduardkoopman]

because she reminds me of a oneitis I had

Sorry to hear, you suffered from the annoying decease some time called: oneites.
I'm afraid all of us men, and women even as well (with Chads). Suffered from this decease.

Shit I even recall my 1st and 2nd and 3rd oneitis I ever had. After that, I can't remember any really.

 

[Descartes]

Sorry to hear, you suffered from the annoying decease some time called: oneites.
I'm afraid all of us men, and women even as well (with Chads). Suffered from this decease.

Shit I even recall my 1st and 2nd and 3rd oneitis I ever had. After that, I can't remember any really.

Yes, it's truly a mental illness. I'm really into feminine and refined women but I don't usually meet girls like that. I found one that seemed perfect for me, so graceful and angelic, then I got to know her better and I realised she was just an average empty girl with not much personality or inner world, the disappointment turned the appreciation I had for her in utter disgust, I had to cut all ties with the girl. I hope you have more luck with women

 

[eduardkoopman]

Yes, it's truly a mental illness. I'm really into feminine and refined women but I don't usually meet girls like that. I found one that seemed perfect for me, so graceful and angelic, then I got to know her better and I realised she was just an average empty girl with not much personality or inner world, the disappointment turned the appreciation I had for her in utter disgust, I had to cut all ties with the girl.

brutals. we, you, anyone, have to learn. People ahev personality flaws. and plenty fo them. need to accept that, since we ourselfes have plenty annoying personality shit features as well.

I hope you have more luck with women

I'll see this time around. I re-enter the dating market place this summer. after a long hiatus.

 

[Phoenix]

How do you do that?

Go in front of a mirror, tilt your head down and look up, like George Clooney

 

[eduardkoopman]

Go in front of a mirror, tilt your head down and look up, like George Clooney

only 4 pics, not for irl

 

[court monarch777]

guess what, i'm gl?

 

[eduardkoopman]

guess what, i'm gl?

Your eye area is High tier normi

 

[Soalian]

Go in front of a mirror, tilt your head down and look up, like George Clooney

Doesn't seem to work, no easy answer on this one, I'm afraid

 

[eduardkoopman]

Doesn't seem to work, no easy answer on this one, I'm afraid

it's a cope way, to go slough head forward and look up. very bad posture also, to walk around with.

 

[Soalian]

it's a cope way, to go slough head forward and look up. very bad posture also, to walk around with.

Nespresso, neutral tilt, what else?

 

[Soalian]

it's a cope way, to go slough head forward and look up. very bad posture also, to walk around with.

You look confrontational too lol