Face looks a better on dhb and tren than test

[Bitchwhipper2]

From
350Test
125EQ

To
250Test
100EQ
70dhb
25 Tren

My hollow cheeks seem to be slightly visible again despite 4k calories a day

 

[Deleted member 178206]

hmm
perhaps

 

[Anamnesis]

Mirin

 

[HardMaxxed]

From
350Test
125EQ

To
250Test
100EQ
70dhb
25 Tren

My hollow cheeks seem to be slightly visible again despite 4k calories a day

reduced the test and upped the tren aswell seem to see the same thing

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

reduced the test and upped the tren aswell seem to see the same thing

Test is literal shit tbh.

Run it as low as possible for aromatization and use other steroids to push anabolism

 

[HardMaxxed]

Test is literal shit tbh.

Run it as low as possible for aromatization and use other steroids to push anabolism

you cant say that test is the fondation of a cycle + makes me feel calm and good. When i reduce the test and keep same tren dose im more agressive

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

you cant say that test is the fondation of a cycle + makes me feel calm and good. When i reduce the test and keep same tren dose im more agressive

Not for me. High test gives me insomnia E2 sides and bloat. I dont like it personally
Obviously replacing test with tren will give sides. Most fair comparison would be less neuroactive steroid

Actually tolerated deca no test the best out of all steroids apart from the bloat

 

[mtbsmasher]

Test is literal shit tbh.

Run it as low as possible for aromatization and use other steroids to push anabolism

Idk about that my skin is perfectly clear, no hairloss, and i even somehow look slightly younger (prob cuz of the estrogen) on 800mg test with dutasteride only roid ik of that had a similar effect is deca but deca is neurotoxic, cardiotoxic etc so not even worth running

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

Idk about that my skin is perfectly clear, no hairloss, and i even somehow look slightly younger (prob cuz of the estrogen) on 800mg test with dutasteride only roid ik of that had a similar effect is deca but deca is neurotoxic, cardiotoxic etc so not even worth running

Decas neuro and cardiotoxicity are most likely mediated or atleast exagerrated by the lack of estrogen

 

[mtbsmasher]

Decas neuro and cardiotoxicity are most likely mediated or atleast exagerrated by the lack of estrogen

but doesnt deca still convert to estrogen? just at a lower rate than test

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

but doesnt deca still convert to estrogen? just at a lower rate than test

Very low rate.
Enough to be considered deficient even at the gram range

 

[mtbsmasher]

Very low rate.
Enough to be considered deficient even at the gram range

so in theory with normal estrogen itd be fine? i was thinking about ordering deca and estradiol tablets for a cycle tbh cuz its easier than popping pills everyday to mitigate test sides

 

[Bitchwhipper2]

so in theory with normal estrogen itd be fine?

Well. We cant be certain, but youd definitely be more fine

i was thinking about ordering deca and estradiol tablets for a cycle tbh cuz its easier than popping pills everyday to mitigate test sides

I honestly would not recommend deca + E2, especially as oral estradiol.
This is primarily for the reason that oral e2 goes through first pass which increases hepatic exposure massively relative to the serum conc which means bloating as fuck.

Another issue that that many tissues rely on local aromatization for sufficient estrogen signalling. So you miss out on the micro environmental benefits when only relying on serum estradiol.

I think a trt dose of Testosterone or even ment as your estrogen base would be a better alternative

 

[sick kunt31]

I wanna hop on hgh