feedback on my surgical ascension (morph)

[AlucarddraculA121]

eyebrow/eyelash density/darkness (latisse, caster oil)

your biggest failo + latisse and caster oil is not enough for that morph gains

 

[xlefort]

Don't listen to the infants in replies, this is a good post, op. In fact it's more than achievable with just filler for the majority, so hardmaxxing will take it all the way. Hopefully you find a surgeon who does everything properly.

thanks. means a lot to hear.
are you entailing this is completely possible with minimal divergence from the procedures i listed? im surprised to hear that you think filler will do this much for me as well. id prefer not to get fillers though

Yeah looks good buddy.

One advice: Forget about the hairline gains with finasteride and minoxidil this will never lower your hairline so much.
You seem like a good candidate for hairline lowering surgery which has in comparison to hair transplant no regrowth phase and looks more natural in my opinion.

But I share @ueeslayer opinion.
Most of this you can achieve with filler.

thanks for the valuable feedback man. im curious to know why and how you think my morph is achievable only with fillers. could you elaborate on where id hypothetically have work done on my face from your first glance?

 

[xlefort]

ignore these fags that say this isnt peak hardmaxxing, i have a similar set of things getting done but i my current side itsnt as cooked as urs, but yeah def do this

lolll

 

[xlefort]

your biggest failo + latisse and caster oil is not enough for that morph gains

whats my biggest failo? and i think the morph lash / brow gains were modest tbh, with latisse castor oil dye minox rosemary oil eyelash curler and then a transplant for eyebrows i think its very achievable, ive already made gains since i took this pic

 

[Veridic]

thanks. means a lot to hear.
are you entailing this is completely possible with minimal divergence from the procedures i listed? im surprised to hear that you think filler will do this much for me as well. id prefer not to get fillers though

thanks for the valuable feedback man. im curious to know why and how you think my morph is achievable only with fillers. could you elaborate on where id hypothetically have work done on my face from your first glance?

Oh well, I meant to make the point that this could be replicated with filler alone. Of course I'm an advocate for more invasive procedures but I do think you could minimize those if you wanted to save a lot more money.

I do have a lot of self injection experience so you can feel free to ask me any questions you need

 

[AlucarddraculA121]

whats my biggest failo? and i think the morph lash / brow gains were modest tbh, with latisse castor oil dye minox rosemary oil eyelash curler and then a transplant for eyebrows i think its very achievable, ive already made gains since i took this pic

eyebrows. With dye minox and transplant for eyebrows would be achievable but minox would bloat, dye would look uncanny/gay and idk about transplant for eyebrows much.

 

[xlefort]

Oh well, I meant to make the point that this could be replicated with filler alone. Of course I'm an advocate for more invasive procedures but I do think you could minimize those if you wanted to save a lot more money.

I do have a lot of self injection experience so you can feel free to ask me any questions you need

yeah, where and how would i inject and how on earth would i even replicate results in the morph without invasive procedures?

 

[xlefort]

eyebrows. With dye minox and transplant for eyebrows would be achievable but minox would bloat, dye would look uncanny/gay and idk about transplant for eyebrows much.

dye wont look uncanny i have naturally dark hair my eyebrows are just too sparse to look dark
minox + transplant for sure

but my eyebrows arent a failo because of the eyebrow hair itself, it's unideal shape and position is a byproduct of a poor supraorbital ridge/general orbital bones. this is why i really really want orbital rim implants, ideally with more projection in my supras
plus my biggest flaw is my maxilla anyway, not to argue.

 

[mr.neptune]

getting all this done will run you back 60-70k+. JFL at 30k.
its also overkill for your face.
chin also looks retarded in the morph, not harmonious at all.
your trying to go for a hyper-masculine look but your pheno would be better suited to something closer to a prettyboy
given how dramtatic your morphs look I dont think this will harmonise and you have a high likelihood of needing many revisions + being unsatisfied. only real failos are your midface, eyebrows and hair density. if you want some enhancement to the lower third fillers would be best as rn its not a failo and surgery could easily botch you.

 

[Philalethes]

Being 20+ years senior I can assure tou you won't do anything more important with your life other than looksmax and your surgery wikl improve your life quality over anything else you'll ever do.
as for me, i've been trying to do one since I was 10 and eventhough it's way too late for me, I still rather to try than giving up
good luck, hope it goes well

 

[xlefort]

Being 20+ years senior I can assure tou you won't do anything more important with your life other than looksmax and your surgery wikl improve your life quality over anything else you'll ever do.
as for me, i've been trying to do one since I was 10 and eventhough it's way too late for me, I still rather to try than giving up
good luck, hope it goes well

you're in your late 30s??

and thanks, good luck to you too

 

[xlefort]

getting all this done will run you back 60-70k+. JFL at 30k.

no it wont i have insurance and i said upwards of 30k
im not getting work done in usa where everyone robs you

its also overkill for your face.

you think? its my bdd talking but i really cant stand looking at my face and want to maximize every area i possibly can

chin also looks retarded in the morph, not harmonious at all.

barely changed it, just mainly the verticality for a more dominant lower third since it's my weakest third. i get this a lot though, people say my chin in the morphs i make look autistic and overprojected, im probably too nd to see it. it looks completely ideal to me and i still fall in the ideal ranges of projection and pass lip assessments with it. (midface projection warrants mandibular projection as well)

your trying to go for a hyper-masculine look but your pheno would be better suited to something closer to a prettyboy

absolutely right, again this is something more subjective and i must be too nd to see it because i genuinely dont understand how the after morph looks hyper-masculine at all. even if i wanted to maximize my potential to fit the archetype of a prettyboy, i still need to fix my objective flaws like lack of forward growth in my supras/maxilla. it will "masculinize" me either way.

given how dramtatic your morphs look I dont think this will harmonise and you have a high likelihood of needing many revisions + being unsatisfied. only real failos are your midface, eyebrows and hair density. if you want some enhancement to the lower third fillers would be best as rn its not a failo and surgery could easily botch you.

not too concerned with my satisfaction levels whatever happens happens jfl
youre right about my failos being midface, (nose in particular feature-wise) eyebrows, and hair density but with my eyebrows they're insufficient in position and shape because of the underlying supras. my orbital framing is poor in general, which kills dimo in my eyes and will subsequently fuck up my eyebrow low-setness and straightness. in short it's the bone, not the eyebrow hairs
yeah theyre sparse but thats easy to fix

 

[xlefort]

nonetheless mirin ur response quality

 

[xlefort]

getting all this done will run you back 60-70k+. JFL at 30k.
its also overkill for your face.
chin also looks retarded in the morph, not harmonious at all.
your trying to go for a hyper-masculine look but your pheno would be better suited to something closer to a prettyboy
given how dramtatic your morphs look I dont think this will harmonise and you have a high likelihood of needing many revisions + being unsatisfied. only real failos are your midface, eyebrows and hair density. if you want some enhancement to the lower third fillers would be best as rn its not a failo and surgery could easily botch you.

as a test to see how much of this is preferential i'd like to hear your thoughts on this morph i made as well

 

[Philalethes]

you're in your late 30s??

and thanks, good luck to you too

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I wish I was your age again and had the possibility to go under the knife
my first surgery will happen this year, le fort i. later tell how much it improved
also, at your age I had very dumb ideas about how later in life, you'd be able to ascend throught money, status, socializing, lifework and connection.
it is not truth. 100 % of men's value is looks and anyone who tells you otherwise is lying.
therefore... Looksmax, go for it

 

[xlefort]

my first surgery will happen this year, le fort i. later tell how much it improved

yeah please tell me how it goes, best of luck to you
can you give details about pricing, surgeon, location and measurements? what are you exactly trying to accomplish with lf1

 

[Philalethes]

Lisbon, António Matos da Fonseca, bimax (ortoghnatic surgery), 40.000 € and I think the surgery is somewhat a lefront I wirh mentoplasty and maybe rhino. asked for malar implants as well
no measurements yet. my plan was ti start here (i am prognatn so i have a lot of pain in my jaw) and procede to improve middle face. woukd have a second surgery un korea for nose (nassl bridge), jawline, eyes, browbone etc etc and finish with youth skin treatment also in korea. reading this forum makes me wonder if i'm not just wasting time since i've got low ipd (6.4 mm)
what i'm trying to accomplish is ascenscion.

 

[xlefort]

Lisbon, António Matos da Fonseca, bimax (ortoghnatic surgery), 40.000 € and I think the surgery is somewhat a lefront I wirh mentoplasty and maybe rhino. asked for malar implants as well
no measurements yet. my plan was ti start here (i am prognatn so i have a lot of pain in my jaw) and procede to improve middle face. woukd have a second surgery un korea for nose (nassl bridge), jawline, eyes, browbone etc etc and finish with youth skin treatment also in korea. reading this forum makes me wonder if i'm not just wasting time since i've got low ipd (6.4 mm)
what i'm trying to accomplish is ascenscion.

read all of it and wow, that's a lot of procedures, again i wish you all the best but do you think this is necessary for your situation?

 

[Philalethes]

Ideally, I would enter the best practitioner's office in the world and ask "doc, make me handsome" ("chad"-level like).
16 years ago (I was 21) when I realized there was nothing else I could do wirh my life, I tried that with several portuguese surgeons (Oliveira e Carmo, "Dr. White", Zeferino Biscaia Fraga, Artur Nixon among others)
Of course, it was a bad strategy as most of them told me clearly they wouldn't work with someone like this. THe ideal would be to say "Doc I have a problem with my nose, it's to thick" and they would propose alterations.
one of them even told me "I won't operate for any money you can offer me, I have a lot of money. I would pay you for you to allow me to perform surgery. If I want". Another replied, "as a patient, you are a huge red flag". I got the message
I also became a correspondent to dr, Kim byung-Un in bk hospital (south korea) who I met finaly last year. he disregarded prognatism as diagnosis, replying he would at best perform surgery on my nose the day after. I went for another hospitals in Korea like JK and banobagi
ended up convincing maxilofacial specialist Matos da Fonseca to help me. I'm using invisaligne brackets to prepare for surgery which shoukd hapen anytine now. of course, realized eyes are too close and i shoukd find a way to set them apart. ended up here after I found giant's propaganda. If we're aiming for perfection, lets find it

 

[monecel]

I think it can be achieved but you need a blackpilled surgeon. The movements aren't overly unrealistic, the most difficult thing though will be making the periorbital region more compact. Maybe supraorbital dropdowns would aid that.

 

[ReccesedSlavic]

Ideally, I would enter the best practitioner's office in the world and ask "doc, make me handsome" ("chad"-level like).
16 years ago (I was 21) when I realized there was nothing else I could do wirh my life, I tried that with several portuguese surgeons (Oliveira e Carmo, "Dr. White", Zeferino Biscaia Fraga, Artur Nixon among others)
Of course, it was a bad strategy as most of them told me clearly they wouldn't work with someone like this. THe ideal would be to say "Doc I have a problem with my nose, it's to thick" and they would propose alterations.
one of them even told me "I won't operate for any money you can offer me, I have a lot of money. I would pay you for you to allow me to perform surgery. If I want". Another replied, "as a patient, you are a huge red flag". I got the message
I also became a correspondent to dr, Kim byung-Un in bk hospital (south korea) who I met finaly last year. he disregarded prognatism as diagnosis, replying he would at best perform surgery on my nose the day after. I went for another hospitals in Korea like JK and banobagi
ended up convincing maxilofacial specialist Matos da Fonseca to help me. I'm using invisaligne brackets to prepare for surgery which shoukd hapen anytine now. of course, realized eyes are too close and i shoukd find a way to set them apart. ended up here after I found giant's propaganda. If we're aiming for perfection, lets find it

Nothing you can do about close set eyes

 

[xlefort]

I think it can be achieved but you need a blackpilled surgeon. The movements aren't overly unrealistic, the most difficult thing though will be making the periorbital region more compact. Maybe supraorbital dropdowns would aid that.

great advice. hardest part will be consultations and managing the logistics of personalized implant design and movements as well as finding a blackpilled surgeon like you say. admittedly haven’t even dipped my toes in these areas yet as everything is conceptual
honestly i care less about periorbital compactness because of increased perceived pfl from canthopexy and infra support, projection in my orbits are what really kill the aesthetics. plus my wasian pheno doesnt require me to have a hyper dimorphic eye area

 

[Philalethes]

I am very far from being the expert in this science as most of you are and surely ignore a big part of the terminology. Still, I tired to understand what surgeries are there to perform arround the yees (canthoplasty etc) and believe it's not impossible, perhaps, with browbone implants and, mostly, nose basis enlargement. As another surgeon told me, it's not just prognatism, is a combined effect of prognatism/crooked nose/ small really short mallars, that make the eyes look closer. Also, I see old pictures of me (10+ years ago) and eyes do look more separated when I was younger.
I do believe small interventions and details matter but, nevertheless, I dislike the idea of going under the knife for a small result. If I am going foward, with the physical, logistical, finantial and also the risk envolved, I intend do do a full transnsformation.
If there's an advice that I should place is wether I should start on chin and move upward to change the eye area, or if I should start on the eyes and then intervene the chin.
Thanks
Btw - chatgpt told me I had 64 as IPD

 

[Philalethes]

Maybe you can help me: Talked about "blackpilled surgeons". Who should I look for? And should that be before or after lefort I?

 

[xlefort]

@mr.neptune peep my replies to u