Feminists: silent on sexist laws in Ukraine

[eduardkoopman]

Women can leave the country.
But men are not allowed to leave in ages 18-60.

Female privilege.

Obvious no feminist mentions this ever.

Men suck for not negotiating privileges for this big downside of being male.

 

[traveler]

legit telling females to go find safety with another country's man then come back if the place is safe

 

[AlexAP]

It's not discrimination, men are physically stronger. I don't think they should be forced to stay in the country, but still no one thinks armies should be 50/50 men/women. Such an army would lose every war.

 

[Tobias Fünke]

They know that women who stay in Ukraine will end up sheltering Russian chads. See the French women during WW2 for reference.

 

[Deleted member 17997]

What a cucked nation

 

[Gonthar]

Women can leave the country.
But men are not allowed to leave in ages 18-60.

Just identify as a female and leave....
There, I've found you a nice loophole.

 

[Ritalincel]

shoot first ask incels later.

 

[eduardkoopman]

It's not discrimination, men are physically stronger. I don't think they should be forced to stay in the country, but still no one thinks armies should be 50/50 men/women. Such an army would lose every war.

Truth.

My point was more:
Men have to fight, with death as a possible consequence.
Women are allowed safety.
But, What do men get a reward/return for this?????


Men are bad negiotiators with women. When men are not demanding something in return, previlidges, because of his massive negative aspect for men, and massive benifit aspect for women.

 

[eduardkoopman]

They know that women who stay in Ukraine will end up sheltering Russian chads. See the French women during WW2 for reference.

Reminds me of the Dutch tradition, after WW2. Where the women that went with the enemy men, were giving a toru through town

Based Dutch guys whom did that back than, tbh.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Reminds me of the Dutch tradition, after WW2. Where the women that went with the enemy men, were giving a toru through town

Based Dutch guys whom did that back than, tbh.

"Based"

In based times, such women were stoned.

 

[Alt Number 3]

Mods need to pin this

 

[Ritalincel]

Mods need to pin this

mod sticky therefor it true

 

[Alt Number 3]

mod sticky therefor it true

other way round

 

[Ritalincel]

other way round

Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Alt Number 3]

Do you have a source on that?
Source?
A source. I need a source.
Sorry, I mean I need a source that explicitly states your argument. This is just tangential to the discussion.
No, you can't make inferences and observations from the sources you've gathered. Any additional comments from you MUST be a subset of the information from the sources you've gathered.
You can't make normative statements from empirical evidence.
Do you have a degree in that field?
A college degree? In that field?
Then your arguments are invalid.
No, it doesn't matter how close those data points are correlated. Correlation does not equal causation.
Correlation does not equal causation.
CORRELATION. DOES. NOT. EQUAL. CAUSATION.
You still haven't provided me a valid source yet.
Nope, still haven't.

 

[contributing_autist]

most of those activists, not just feminists, are just overcompensating losers who only have the balls to go for the easy targets, when they know there is a stable societal structure guarding their back.

0 integrity, 0 backbone

they'll launch a crusade against an irrelevant politician for a statement that could maybe be interpreted as potentially sexist, but then defend a shitskin refugee rapist with absurd arguments without blinking, because ultimately it's about collecting imaginary moral points

 

[Lihito]

Women can leave the country.
But men are not allowed to leave in ages 18-60.

Female privilege.

Obvious no feminist mentions this ever.

Men suck for not negotiating privileges for this big downside of being male.

r/MensRights

 

[Lihito]

Truth.

My point was more:
Men have to fight, with death as a possible consequence.
Women are allowed safety.
But, What do men get a reward/return for this?????


Men are bad negiotiators with women. When men are not demanding something in return, previlidges, because of his massive negative aspect for men, and massive benifit aspect for women.

also Ukraine doesnt have western bullshit "male privilege" theory so its just normal back there

 

[Ritalincel]

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[eduardkoopman]

also Ukraine doesnt have western bullshit "male privilege" theory so its just normal back there

that's likely the reason, of the willingness of alot of Ukranian men there. to go fight.
They are fighting for the protection of their kids and their wife/mother of their kids. There is something to fight for, there is something to protect


Now, the 25% (or whatever %) guys, childless inkwell guys in the liberal West,
I think those guys may have ZERO motivation to fight for protecting country, in silimar situation. To protect what? To protect their non-existing kids, to protect their non-existing wife, to protect the women that have ALL rejected them?

 

[Lihito]

that's likely the reason, of the willingness of alot of Ukranian men there. to go fight.
They are fighting for the protection of their kids and their wife/mother of their kids. There is something to fight for, there is something to protect


Now, the 25% (or whatever %) guys, childless inkwell guys in the liberal West,
I think those guys may have ZERO motivation to fight for protecting country, in silimar situation. To protect what? To protect their non-existing kids, to protect their non-existing wife, to protect the women that have ALL rejected them?

Yes. Exactly this my battle Brother. The inceldom is only one element that Will help in destroying The West among many other. Its never smart to have a population of lonely men with no purpose. They are easy to radicalize

Charlie Manson would have a field day with these subhumans of today JFL





Skip to 1:56 and Listen to our battle speech

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[eduardkoopman]

Yes. Exactly this my battle Brother. The inceldom is only one element that Will help in destroying The West among many other. Its never smart to have a population of lonely men with no purpose. They are easy to radicalize

yeah. that risk exist alot.

Also, there is this contra poit to consoder, in favour of hypergamy with women.
The suggested solution of "forced" monogamy with 1 woman going with 1 man only.
Is not ideal for gentic progress.
Women their hypergamy. creates mogger human beings in the future.
Women put selection pressure on men.
In India, other extreme, where they had arranged marriage for long. Caused: Indians stopped getting taller, and more ugly I guess. And I guess due to that, they are now least favourite phenotype for mating on the planet.

 

[Lihito]

Also, there is this contra poit to consoder, in favour of hypergamy with women.
The suggested solution of "forced" monogamy with 1 woman going with 1 man only.
Is not ideal for gentic progress.
Women their hypergamy. creates mogger human beings in the future.
Women put selection pressure on men.
In India, other extreme, where they had arranged marriage for long. Caused: Indians stopped getting taller, and more ugly I guess. And I guess due to that, they are now least favourite phenotype for mating on the planet.

ngl this is high IQ . There will always be suffering to feed the demiurge in this 3D plane so whats the difference between arranged suffering and inceldom one. I would argue the inceldom is far worse

We have to abandon this world

but yes i do agree that its good for creating mogger humans. I heard somewhere that both balkans and netherlands practiced monogamy. Balkan because of constant local wars and genocides while netherlands out of pure greed

The bad thing about that contra point is the fact that the sole concept of society is men getting rewarded with gene spreading for their labour AKA involvement in creating said AGRARIAN and later INDUSTRIAL society

Hypergamous society can only turn to cavemen anarcho primitivism hell hole. Or even worse , An authoritarian ingsoc brave new world / 1984 society with state enforced hypergamy like USA in the past , Nazis or sweden but 100 times more authoritarian as we see with surveilance tech gaining traction

 

[eduardkoopman]

ngl this is high IQ . There will always be suffering to feed the demiurge in this 3D plane so whats the difference between arranged suffering and inceldom one. I would argue the inceldom is far worse

We have to abandon this world

but yes i do agree that its good for creating mogger humans.

True that.
Female pickyness = genetic progress (taller, stronger, etc..)

I heard somewhere that both balkans and netherlands practiced monogamy.
while netherlands out of pure greed

Monogamy, 50 year lasting marriages, was the norm in Netherlands till 1970's orso. But now after the 1970's not anymore. It was so in the past, due to strict christianity and social pressure rules.

Now.
Monogamy. Is something else than: female choice prefails, or not.

In Netherlands. in general. A woman could CHOICE her man. Not her father, not other men, not someone else chose her man. She makes the choice.
In India for example. Female choice did NOT prefail. She could NOT choice her man, but it got arranged by her father for example.

Female choice = better genes in futre.
Not female choice = stagnation.

Why are the Dutch, so tall? Even though monogamy?
1. because Females could choice their partner/man. And they Choice the tall man for long time.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

 

[Lihito]

True that.
Female pickyness = genetic progress (taller, stronger, etc..)

Monogamy, 50 year lasting marriages, was the norm in Netherlands till 1970's orso. But now after the 1970's not anymore. It was so in the past, due to strict christianity and social pressure rules.

Now.
Monogamy. Is something else than: female choice prefails, or not.

In Netherlands. in general. A woman could CHOICE her man. Not her father, not other men, not someone else chose her man. She makes the choice.
In India for example. Female choice did NOT prefail. She could NOT choice her man, but it got arranged by her father for example.

Female choice = better genes in futre.
Not female choice = stagnation.

Why are the Dutch, so tall? Even though monogamy?
1. because Females could choice their partner/man. And they Choice the tall man for long time.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

sorry i wanted to say they practiced HYPERGAMY

my bad

 

[Ritalincel]

It is over.

 

[eduardkoopman]

It is over.

Buddy Boyos

 

[Ritalincel]

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[eduardkoopman]

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[eduardkoopman]

It is over.

 

[AlexAP]

My point was more:
Men have to fight, with death as a possible consequence.
Women are allowed safety.
But, What do men get a reward/return for this?????

They get the the wages of soldiers and obviously what everyone else gets if the country remains independent - the independence of the country.

Men are bad negiotiators with women. When men are not demanding something in return, previlidges, because of his massive negative aspect for men, and massive benifit aspect for women.

What has this to do with women? Why would men negotiate with women about privileges in return for the higher chances of dying in war? There's no reason for that. The independence of the country is a value in itself --> Men are physically stronger and can defend the country better --> So they are the majority of soldiers.

Governments give soldiers wages and sometimes other things (veteran benefits). That's all what soldiers are entitled to. And in the West, men don't need to be soldiers or even do anything and can still get money from government (welfare). What else should men want from government?

 

[eduardkoopman]

They get the the wages of soldiers and obviously what everyone else gets if the country remains independent - the independence of the country.

What has this to do with women? Why would men negotiate with women about privileges in return for the higher chances of dying in war? There's no reason for that. The independence of the country is a value in itself --> Men are physically stronger and can defend the country better --> So they are the majority of soldiers.

Governments give soldiers wages and sometimes other things (veteran benefits). That's all what soldiers are entitled to. And in the West, men don't need to be soldiers or even do anything and can still get money from government (welfare). What else should men want from government?

True, nothing else is needed or wanted from government.

 

[Deleted member 15004]

Ukraine is cucked as fuck. Hope the Russian tear that entire place to the ground for their retarded and cucky male-only conscription laws. Fuck those faggots

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[Ritalincel]

 

[CFW432]

Reminds me of the Dutch tradition, after WW2. Where the women that went with the enemy men, were giving a toru through town

Based Dutch guys whom did that back than, tbh.

Based, but i bet cucks into that comment section are white knighting for them hard.

Remember this, all collaborating european foids GOT A LITTLE HAIRCUT, all the collaborating men, were executed on the spot...

JFL AT THE DOUBLE STANDARDS, JFL AT THIS LIFE.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

True that.
Female pickyness = genetic progress (taller, stronger, etc..)

Monogamy, 50 year lasting marriages, was the norm in Netherlands till 1970's orso. But now after the 1970's not anymore. It was so in the past, due to strict christianity and social pressure rules.

Now.
Monogamy. Is something else than: female choice prefails, or not.

In Netherlands. in general. A woman could CHOICE her man. Not her father, not other men, not someone else chose her man. She makes the choice.
In India for example. Female choice did NOT prefail. She could NOT choice her man, but it got arranged by her father for example.

Female choice = better genes in futre.
Not female choice = stagnation.

Why are the Dutch, so tall? Even though monogamy?
1. because Females could choice their partner/man. And they Choice the tall man for long time.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

Dumb post. Evolution doesn't work that fast. It takes centuries even millenia to show effect.

Arranged marriage was practised almost in every civilised word pre 1960s.

The reason the dutch are taller than Indians are because of nutrition and climate adaptability.

Female hypergamy wouldn't make a species taller and better looking because short ugly women would reproduce nonetheless.

 

[eduardkoopman]

Based, but i bet cucks into that comment section are white knighting for them hard.

Remember this, all collaborating european foids GOT A LITTLE HAIRCUT, all the collaborating men, were executed on the spot...

JFL AT THE DOUBLE STANDARDS, JFL AT THIS LIFE.

There was even a committee group recently.
That demanded the Dutch government, to apologize for this happening. Because, these women could not help falling in love.

Obviously,
That committee group. Where the woke feminist types.

Luckily, the appology never happened.

These women were even lucky. Not more severe retributions were put upon them.

 

[eduardkoopman]

The reason the dutch are taller than Indians are because of nutrition and climate adaptability.

Check a 2015 study.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

First paragraph of the article.
Insecure about your height? You may want to avoid this tiny country by the North Sea, whose population has gained an impressive 20 centimeters in the past 150 years and is now officially the tallest on the planet. Scientists chalk up most of that increase to rising wealth, a rich diet, and good health care, but a new study suggests something else is going on as well: The Dutch growth spurt may be an example of human evolution in action.

 

[Deleted member 17872]

Check a 2015 study.

Science | AAAS

www.science.org

First paragraph of the article.
Insecure about your height? You may want to avoid this tiny country by the North Sea, whose population has gained an impressive 20 centimeters in the past 150 years and is now officially the tallest on the planet. Scientists chalk up most of that increase to rising wealth, a rich diet, and good health care, but a new study suggests something else is going on as well: The Dutch growth spurt may be an example of human evolution in action.

From the article :

Verhulst points out that the team can't be certain that genes involved in height are actually becoming more frequent, however, as the authors acknowledge.

You seem like a redditor who sees science and research in the article and think it is the truth. The study is just an hypothesis. Dutch could simply have grown more taller because they are gotten extremely egalitarian and everybody there have access to best nutrition and are the biggest consumers of dairy.

Again from the article :

The Dutch have become so much taller in such a short period that scientists chalk most of it up to their changing environment. As the Netherlands developed, it became one of the world's largest producers and consumers of cheese and milk. An increasingly egalitarian distribution of wealth and universal access to health care may also have helped.

Balkans are actually taller than dutch and female have little to no mate choice.

 

[MoggerGaston]

What else should men want from government?

Get large tax-cuts as compensation for their military service and the fact that men make less use of government paid social programs/healthcare than women.

It makes no sense that men pay similar taxes as women. And in by far the most cases: much more.

 

[AlexAP]

Get large tax-cuts as compensation for their military service and the fact that men make less use of government paid social programs/healthcare than women.

Soldiers get veteran benefits.

It makes no sense that men pay similar taxes as women. And in by far the most cases: much more.

That is not related to the draft. And it's not men paying more than women, people with high income pay more than people with low income, and there are more men with high income than women.

 

[MoggerGaston]

Soldiers get veteran benefits.

If compensation was in any way adequate there wouldn't be a need to stop ukranian men from leaving the country.

The only logical conclusion therefore is that compensation for this job is laughable and men are being forced with violence to fight for something they don't believe in and don't get properly compensated for. Slavery.

@eduardkoopman is right with this topic.

That is not related to the draft.

It is related to the draft. The government expects me to defend its power structures, defend its establishment, defend its ability to take taxes from me and the population. But why should I want to do that? What incentives does the government give to me to do that?

If there's no incentive, there's a large chance an invader will offer me better life quality and better incentives if I abandon my current government and join the 'invaders' of the country.

The rich and powerfull have the most to lose in a potential war. That burden doesn't carry over to your average civilian that is made to fight their war.

And it's not men paying more than women, people with high income pay more than people with low income, and there are more men with high income than women.

Which makes the current tax system sexist against men.

Why men would defend a tax system like this is beyond me.
Why women do, is quite obvious.
Hence you mostly see men vote for lower taxes and women vote for higher taxes. Although in the confusing political landscape of today, an increasing amount of men aren't mentally capable of voting rationally anymore and willingly vote against their own interest.