Fin just arrived, and I'm not even 17 yet jfl (baldcels gtfih)

[LooksmaxxHopeful]

Its brutal, im probably a solid year and a half away from being a total, visible, unhideable nw3cel and I'll be 17 in just 4 months, but I plan on first trying out fin before I do a couple "cycles" with RU58841,at least until I turn 18 or 20. Im aware of how early this shit is but the reaper doesn't ask for your age I guess.

Before you ask, I am 100% sure its MPB.

It was free on minoxidilmax anyway & I just paid for the shipping, I also got the 0.5mgs Fin dose.

The main reason I have the balls to try fin out so early is because of this video:



It sort of convinced me and by what he says in this video theoretically I could just continue with fin indefinitely but just to be safe I'll do 1 month and then just do RU58841 until Im done "developing". I could run both I guess, just wanna see if I get any sides from fin, at this age, with the 0.5mg dosage.

My whole stack will be: Mycoseb, Fin, Minox, and maybe a dermaroller when it arrives (it'll probably arrive in the same time as RU).

I will report anything that happens to me, I will track my gym progress (for reference I progress pretty fast for a natty, even 1+ years into training), eat a lot, get good frequent erections, not depressed and am confident, no mood swings or anything. I'd say Im 100% healthy and with normal test levels, although I didn't do any bloodwork yet.

Wish me luck

Not balding but have hairloss in my family, haircafe also has motivated me to get on fin when I'm 20 for life just to be preventative

 

[Deleted member 16861]

Dont use fin when your Bones still growing

 

[irrumator praetor]

Min doesn’t just stop working, because it doesn’t tackle the root cause of DHT it cannot stop miniaturisation however it can increase the thickness of hair.

Just sketched a shitty graph I’m on my phone, the x axis is time and the y axis is hair

Min vs No min.View attachment 1546034

Let the red line be when he starts min aka his baseline, assuming his hair responds to min it will get thicker and increase in volume, however because DHT is not being dealt with miniaturisation will continue. Even though he’s got more hair after using fin overtime his hair will still miniaturise and may even revert back to baseline levels, this does not mean the the drug is not working it just means that miniaturisation is continuing, remember had he not used minoxidil his hair would be even worse than previous baseline, minoxidil in this case is only used to buy time until he can use finasteride and stop the root cause, all he needs to do now is hang onto as much hair as possible until the right age even micro needling with minox.

Let the end blue line be the start of finasteride when he reaches appropriate age the goal is to have as much hair salvaged by then.

Take an alternate scenario where he’s a but if a dumbass
View attachment 1546048
Let’s say he starts using minoxidil (no waiting for finasteride). At red (baseline) he chooses to take minoxidil, let the red dotted line be the trajectory has he not taken minoxidil. He gets a response his hair thickens he thinks he’s solving the issue when in reality DHT is still progressing, his hair peaks from the minoxidil response but again miniaturisation is continuing so he starts to lose hair until he’s back to where he started. Let’s say at this point where the green line is he says “fuck it the drugs stopped working” and he stops using, remember that those hairs are only here due to minoxidil and are dependent on it as miniaturisation has not been dealt with, all that extra hair he’s holding onto will fall out and he will lose hair and return to his original trajectory considering he has not being treating DHT the root cause.

Minoxidil should only be used in this case to buy time.

Damn, I actually started using minox like 2-3 years before I ever hopped on fin (6 days ago) cause its the only thing my parents wouldn't freak out about. Never stopped using it since then, although I think it slowed my hairloss a shit ton I just kept losing ground over time

 

[irrumator praetor]

Don’t use it yet tbh delay with minoxidil as long as possible(19-21 ish), if your pubic hair is still growing and you’ve seen a difference in either or both your testicle and dick size in the last year I wouldn’t touch it.

Thing is I haven't i reached 6in and x girth (haven't measured) and it hasn't changed since tbh.

 

[irrumator praetor]

Dont use fin when your Bones still growing

6ft tall sir, haven't changed

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

don't take fin before 20 you fucking retard

 

[Deleted member 16861]

6ft tall sir, haven't changed

It can have an Impact on your facial structure too though

 

[PURE ARYAN GENETICS]

here is something i wrote on balding and diet on another post @irrumator praetor

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just dont take fin

fix your diet
specifically increase your dietary Calcium : Phosphorus ratio to 1:1, *ideally* 2:1 but its very hard to achieve this and I dont recommend it since you will mess up your Magneisum status. On the topic of Magnesium, you will have to increase its intake aswell or you will get bad symptoms, too much Calcium relative to Magnesium is bad. I think the ratio should be 1 : 0.5 ideally ( Calcium : Magnesium ) any higher in unrealistic.

Also increase your Zinc intake via eating more red muscle meat; but also increase your Copper intake by eating organ meats such as Beef Liver, Beef Kidney.. Beef liver from a good butcher is the best imo for getting copper, even though Kidney is higher a bit its very difficult to prepare as a dish, liver is simpler to prepare and tastes better.


Avoid stress, sometimes get a bit of sun exposure, sleep so much that you wake up naturally every day, go on long walks, have sex, stretch...

tldr:​

Input your daily diet on cronometer, notice where u are deficient

Get dietary Calcium : Phosphorus ratio to 1:1
Eat in-general more Magnesium foods (I can elab on good sources and what I eat for Mg)
Increase general Zinc and Copper intake via Red Meat and eating weekly / twice a week Beef Liver from a butcher (not from a supermarket, or else it will taste very very bad.. good liver tastes good and slightly sweet, it should be red / bright red ideally, not grey etc.)
Avoid stress, starvation, darkness, sleep deprivation, moving too little (go on walks, stretch well)



dietary deficiencies have hormonal implications, by fixing diet it will lower Estrogenicity and thus your body will not overproduce Androgens like DHT to compensate for your lack of Testosterone and too much Estradiol. This is one of DHTs functions, in a sense it is produced by stress in men to combat Estrogenicity, otherwise you will suffer extremely from simple stress because you body will not be able to counteract the Estrogen you get from physiologic stress. But it is also produced naturally in a healthy boy/man in all stages of life. Right now I wouldnt mess with it (at your age).

balding nowadays is because of shit diet, specifically underconsumption of dairy and organ meats (how many people u know consume this? the only dairy people eat is slice of cheese on their burger, and and nowadays very few people eat organ meats)... also tons of pufa consumption, plus modern lifestyle produces physiologic stress (which leads to Estrogenicity and then to overproduction of DHT as a way to combat the Estrogenicity)

can you explain why increasing calcium intake helps when one of the hallmarks of balding is a calcified scalp? have you experienced any regrowth following your regimen?

 

[beypazarisoda0]

here is something i wrote on balding and diet on another post @irrumator praetor

​

just dont take fin

fix your diet
specifically increase your dietary Calcium : Phosphorus ratio to 1:1, *ideally* 2:1 but its very hard to achieve this and I dont recommend it since you will mess up your Magneisum status. On the topic of Magnesium, you will have to increase its intake aswell or you will get bad symptoms, too much Calcium relative to Magnesium is bad. I think the ratio should be 1 : 0.5 ideally ( Calcium : Magnesium ) any higher in unrealistic.

Also increase your Zinc intake via eating more red muscle meat; but also increase your Copper intake by eating organ meats such as Beef Liver, Beef Kidney.. Beef liver from a good butcher is the best imo for getting copper, even though Kidney is higher a bit its very difficult to prepare as a dish, liver is simpler to prepare and tastes better.


Avoid stress, sometimes get a bit of sun exposure, sleep so much that you wake up naturally every day, go on long walks, have sex, stretch...

tldr:​

Input your daily diet on cronometer, notice where u are deficient

Get dietary Calcium : Phosphorus ratio to 1:1
Eat in-general more Magnesium foods (I can elab on good sources and what I eat for Mg)
Increase general Zinc and Copper intake via Red Meat and eating weekly / twice a week Beef Liver from a butcher (not from a supermarket, or else it will taste very very bad.. good liver tastes good and slightly sweet, it should be red / bright red ideally, not grey etc.)
Avoid stress, starvation, darkness, sleep deprivation, moving too little (go on walks, stretch well)



dietary deficiencies have hormonal implications, by fixing diet it will lower Estrogenicity and thus your body will not overproduce Androgens like DHT to compensate for your lack of Testosterone and too much Estradiol. This is one of DHTs functions, in a sense it is produced by stress in men to combat Estrogenicity, otherwise you will suffer extremely from simple stress because you body will not be able to counteract the Estrogen you get from physiologic stress. But it is also produced naturally in a healthy boy/man in all stages of life. Right now I wouldnt mess with it (at your age).

balding nowadays is because of shit diet, specifically underconsumption of dairy and organ meats (how many people u know consume this? the only dairy people eat is slice of cheese on their burger, and and nowadays very few people eat organ meats)... also tons of pufa consumption, plus modern lifestyle produces physiologic stress (which leads to Estrogenicity and then to overproduction of DHT as a way to combat the Estrogenicity)

tldr is longer than the original text