final jaw surgery + implants design

i think there was like 2 degrees cw. definitely needed more. i shoulda asked for more in retrospect; posted designs here, didnt really know what to make of em, no one else said to petition for extra cw rotation at the time, but i definitely think it woulda been beneficial. instead of genio, my entire lower jaw was cooked as shit with a proper bite:
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so with the sagittal split, my doc shortened one side of the jaw by nearly a cm and added nearly a cm to the other. chin is centered at least to the eye now, was 8mm off to the center before.
here's a photo a family member took while we were out today, so i cant pose it or anything, u can see the chin is naturally positioned in the center now.
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still pretty swollen obv but the cheekbones and stuff are starting to come out. if chin still looks weird after a couple months i'll just get a little implant to sort it out; i plan on coming back fairly soon for the lip lift and maybe facelift and whatnot
You just got funnier
 
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Yes looks better but he didn’t do anything on the chin right ?
Anyway their shouldve been a genio rotation and slight downgraft to unfold in conjunction with the downgraft of maxilla.
Gotta agree with this comment. Chin should have been rotated more. Would have improved the side profile in a more dramatic and convincing way. But you will probably be able to address that in a second round, along with a rhinoplasty (augmentation for the side profile), and liposuction of the submental/or a neck lift.

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Your front profile has already improved, and things should only get better these coming months, as swelling subsides. By the way, cheekbones are standing out on that outdoor picture.

Thanks for sharing and heal well !
 
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Congrats on your results, definitely a significant improvement.
Good luck on your healing:PepeSmile:
 
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Gotta agree with this comment. Chin should have been rotated more. Would have improved the side profile in a more dramatic and convincing way. But you will probably be able to address that in a second round, along with a rhinoplasty (augmentation for the side profile), and liposuction of the submental/or a neck lift.

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Your front profile has already improved, and things should only get better these coming months, as swelling subsides. By the way, cheekbones are standing out on that outdoor picture.

Thanks for sharing and heal well !
Good idea; I'll be talking with the surgeon around april to start planning for the next round around july. it turns out he opted not to add in the jaw implants during this surgery, i was mistaken. so maybe he can add in a mask next round that extends the chin downward like that and connects to the jaw. i'll show him ur gif
 
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Good idea; I'll be talking with the surgeon around april to start planning for the next round around july. it turns out he opted not to add in the jaw implants during this surgery, i was mistaken. so maybe he can add in a mask next round that extends the chin downward like that and connects to the jaw. i'll show him ur gif
tbh your jaw looks pretty good idk if you need implants but I cant really judge until the swelling heals. Are you on healing peptides such as bpc, tb5, hgh
 
tbh your jaw looks pretty good idk if you need implants but I cant really judge until the swelling heals. Are you on healing peptides such as bpc, tb5, hgh
Did u find out the material of the implants
 
Good idea; I'll be talking with the surgeon around april to start planning for the next round around july. it turns out he opted not to add in the jaw implants during this surgery, i was mistaken. so maybe he can add in a mask next round that extends the chin downward like that and connects to the jaw. i'll show him ur gif

Good idea; I'll be talking with the surgeon around april to start planning for the next round around july. it turns out he opted not to add in the jaw implants during this surgery, i was mistaken. so maybe he can add in a mask next round that extends the chin downward like that and connects to the jaw. i'll show him ur gif
Did u find out the material Of the implant
 
tbh your jaw looks pretty good idk if you need implants but I cant really judge until the swelling heals. Are you on healing peptides such as bpc, tb5, hgh
I feel like the peptides aren’t helping for my trimax recovery
If anything it makes it worse to me. 3 days off now and I’m deswelling at a steady rate

I was on KLOW , maybe extra angiogenesis promotes more swelling ?
 
We're going with fairly large movements, around 7mm down and forward for the upper jaw. We were initially going to do jaw and chin implants, but these movements correct most asymmetry. surgeon assured me if i want them, lip lift, nose job, anything else in the future he'd still be available. So we're just doing the main focus for now, which is fixing my structural deformities.

I've attached the skull rearrangements, movement chart, cheekbone design (4.5mm thickness), and plate overlays. And a selfie for my before pictures
I don't think even jaw surgery and implants can help you
 
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tbh your jaw looks pretty good idk if you need implants but I cant really judge until the swelling heals. Are you on healing peptides such as bpc, tb5, hgh
nah wasnt about to try bringing anything through customs
 
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mirin big fella
 
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3rd person shot from the summer vs today
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You should jaycutlermaxxing
 
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Mirin results bro, such a lifefuel and crazy physique btw
 
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We're going with fairly large movements, around 7mm down and forward for the upper jaw. We were initially going to do jaw and chin implants, but these movements correct most asymmetry. surgeon assured me if i want them, lip lift, nose job, anything else in the future he'd still be available. So we're just doing the main focus for now, which is fixing my structural deformities.

I've attached the skull rearrangements, movement chart, cheekbone design (4.5mm thickness), and plate overlays. And a selfie for my before pictures
mirin ascension

leak surgeon plz
 
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the cheekbones are crazy is this one. how come your eyebrows also are more positively tilted?
I almost always raise them expressively throughout the day. probably just wasnt raising them for once so the angles different
 
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most of the swelling is near the chin, upper lip, and nasolabial area now. decent forward "growth" tho.
 
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Looks good, you could add some fat graft in the mentolabial fold. Also maybe around the implant.

Are you gonna do a rhino ?
doc has suggested grafting around the implants next session. still leaning towards rhino yeah. u sure mentolabial fat graft is the answer? my chin is still kind far forward, ao i figured we could genio it clockwise; could help that mentolabial crease and the jutting chin. lip lift still for sure.

not sure about jaw implants any more though, gunna wait and see in a few months.
 
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still need a nosejob
 
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doc has suggested grafting around the implants next session. still leaning towards rhino yeah. u sure mentolabial fat graft is the answer? my chin is still kind far forward, ao i figured we could genio it clockwise; could help that mentolabial crease and the jutting chin. lip lift still for sure.

not sure about jaw implants any more though, gunna wait and see in a few months.
I mean yea you can redo genio but you might need fat either way, rhino is smart but you need a good surgeon who is good at debulking it. Jaw implants seems not needed
 
We're going with fairly large movements, around 7mm down and forward for the upper jaw. We were initially going to do jaw and chin implants, but these movements correct most asymmetry. surgeon assured me if i want them, lip lift, nose job, anything else in the future he'd still be available. So we're just doing the main focus for now, which is fixing my structural deformities.

I've attached the skull rearrangements, movement chart, cheekbone design (4.5mm thickness), and plate overlays. And a selfie for my before pictures
Hye bro , good luck w the surgery, hopefully it will yield the results you like. I am planning on getting filler myself for my chin, we are all trying to improve our looks and strive for perfection.

But i want to say that you aren't bad looking, sure this surgery will improve your life so great work. But if i saw you out and about Id think you are a regular guy. You look very likeable. I'd want to ask you for lifting advice, and make small talk about your life.

Anyhow, good luck, look forward to seeing the results.
 
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My plan is to get into secure hmtn and then quit the endless pursuit for perfection
 
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Hye bro , good luck w the surgery, hopefully it will yield the results you like. I am planning on getting filler myself for my chin, we are all trying to improve our looks and strive for perfection.

But i want to say that you aren't bad looking, sure this surgery will improve your life so great work. But if i saw you out and about Id think you are a regular guy. You look very likeable. I'd want to ask you for lifting advice, and make small talk about your life.

Anyhow, good luck, look forward to seeing the results.
Such a sweet comment you’d think you’re not on org
 
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Hye bro , good luck w the surgery, hopefully it will yield the results you like. I am planning on getting filler myself for my chin, we are all trying to improve our looks and strive for perfection.

But i want to say that you aren't bad looking, sure this surgery will improve your life so great work. But if i saw you out and about Id think you are a regular guy. You look very likeable. I'd want to ask you for lifting advice, and make small talk about your life.

Anyhow, good luck, look forward to seeing the results.
Thanks man. Surgery's done and I'm really happy with the results. Sounds like you're venturing for a lot less than me, so it should all work out safely
 
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yeah ive tried tretinoin and azelaic acid and some others and nothings working for it. Definitely gunna have to go for a harder fix. I'll maybe try one of those laser things first where they fry off the too layer or whatever the hell they do. Haven't looked into it much, getting my skull in check first
What made your skin look that way? You look too young to have that
 
looking forward to see the post swelling results, for sure ascended
 
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Infraorbitals and malar implant looks really good, makes the 3/4 profile pop with that ogee curve.
 
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some of the bone graft fragments were jutting out of my sinuses causing a constant nose bleed since surgery so doc just reached up there with tweezers and started yanking grafts out. Wasn't a very pleasant experience, but now I'm breathing in hd. Used to sound like darth daver if i tried to breathe through my nose. now its nearly identical to breathing through my mouth. heading back home in 12 hours. been ready to come back for a while

lips and mid face around the leforte cuts are still very swollen. nose is starting to look larger proportionally as the rest shrinks down. rhino is definitely calling
 
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some of the bone graft fragments were jutting out of my sinuses causing a constant nose bleed since surgery so doc just reached up there with tweezers and started yanking grafts out. Wasn't a very pleasant experience, but now I'm breathing in hd. Used to sound like darth daver if i tried to breathe through my nose. now its nearly identical to breathing through my mouth. heading back home in 12 hours. been ready to come back for a while

lips and mid face around the leforte cuts are still very swollen. nose is starting to look larger proportionally as the rest shrinks down. rhino is definitely calling
You can’t blow your nose right ?
It’s a weird feeling getting a +50% boost on nose breathing
 
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You can’t blow your nose right ?
It’s a weird feeling getting a +50% boost on nose breathing
I can kinda blow it but i dont really need to. doesnt feel like theres any blockage. and i had a runny nose for like 4 years straight prior to this but it seems to have stopped 💀
 
late getting back to the thread cuz i was really messed up. eyes got messed up and i couldnt open em for 2 days. surgeon said he was having difficulties but managed to get it all done according to the original plan, with the cheek implants and jaw implants he surprised me with.

you can see im not instantly a chad or anything, but this hopefully with my speech and the irregularities from my developmental issues.

the cheekbones look like im gay maxxing; hopefully theyll go down a bit 💀
Congrats nigga mirin so hard rn
 
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I can kinda blow it but i dont really need to. doesnt feel like theres any blockage. and i had a runny nose for like 4 years straight prior to this but it seems to have stopped 💀
Your surgeon must have told you you can’t blow ur nose I think
 
diuretics took a bit of the swelling down

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the shit is getting better every day. I went from what u internet fellas call "subhuman" to possibly above average already, still got some swelling to go.

Unfortunately I've lost 40lbs since the surgery already. In less than 3 weeks. Very unfortunate but I'll get it back quick once i can pick things back up
 
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diuretics took a bit of the swelling down

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the shit is getting better every day. I went from what u internet fellas call "subhuman" to possibly above average already, still got some swelling to go.

Unfortunately I've lost 40lbs since the surgery already. In less than 3 weeks. Very unfortunate but I'll get it back quick once i can pick things back up
Which diuretics ?
I’ve heard they don’t work on the fluids of the lymphatic system
 
Which diuretics ?
I’ve heard they don’t work on the fluids of the lymphatic system
hctz. i can spam it without worrying because i drink a gallon of skim milk every day so i get a ton of potassium. maybe it didnt do anything; i couldve just healed more. but today was a big difference in my upper lip swelling compared to before so i felt like it made a big jump
 
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your looking great man rhino and lip lift will help lots. Fixing your coloring and getting better contrast by dyeing eyebrows while growing your hair into a style that fits you better will also help so much. You might think I'm crazy but those things alone will make a bigger difference than this surgery
 
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your looking great man rhino and lip lift will help lots. Fixing your coloring and getting better contrast by dyeing eyebrows while growing your hair into a style that fits you better will also help so much. You might think I'm crazy but those things alone will make a bigger difference than this surgery
my skin is pretty shit ik if i could fix that itd be a good boost. growing the hair out now. lip lift and rhino definitely coming in 5-6 months
 

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