Finasteride Treatment Inhibits Adult Hippocampal Neurogenesis in Male Mice

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did you go to Ray Peat's funeral?
 
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finasteride is bunk

oral minox is all you need
 
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Anyone else on fin have a hard time getting boners?

I don't know if it's just too much porn but I've noticed I get 50-70% as hard as I used to before I started this drug 6 months ago.

I don't want to be a baldcel though so I need to stay on it.
 
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no hippocampal neurogenesis for your hair
 
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Fin shills will still defend their tranny drug.
 
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Its not a tranny drug dumbfuck it just lowers test a little.
It's a tranny drug and i'm sorry you got duped into taking it. Your symptoms are only going to get worse unfortunately. It doesn't lower test, it actually increases test a little due to the drug blocking 65-70% of your DHT.
 
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It's a tranny drug and i'm sorry you got duped into taking it. Your symptoms are only going to get worse unfortunately. It doesn't lower test, it actually increases test a little due to the drug blocking 65-70% of your DHT.
So will it make me become a woman then or not? Should I get off it?
 
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So will it make me become a woman then or not? Should I get off it?
It will make your feminine over time, just look at that fin shill haircafe, he looks like a woman JFL. Block DHT = feminization. I won't give you advice because ultimately we all have to solely take the risks but you know if your EQ becomes worse, libido gets worse, brain fog starts happening. It can get a whole lot worse so just keep that in mind.
 
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I'm glad I no longer take fin honestly. Felt like it wasn't a risk worth taking in the long run.

Red light therapy seems to be a much safer option.
 
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It will make your feminine over time, just look at that fin shill haircafe, he looks like a woman JFL. Block DHT = feminization. I won't give you advice because ultimately we all have to solely take the risks but you know if your EQ becomes worse, libido gets worse, brain fog starts happening. It can get a whole lot worse so just keep that in mind.

Thoughts on topical finasteride? It can't be as bad right since it's just blocking DHT on the scalp and not in the whole body.
 
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Thoughts on topical finasteride? It can't be as bad right since it's just blocking DHT on the scalp and not in the whole body.
Topical goes systemic aswell so it blocks DHT but there is another guy on this forum who is going to try microdose topical and apparently it won't go systemic or it will be only blocking 20-25% of your DHT max which is a lot better than 70% like oral fin. He's yet to post results but i think that could work. Again i'm not an expert but i do know the risks of blocking DHT.
 
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Again i'm not an expert but i do know the risks of blocking DHT.

What are the risks other than sex drive? And what should I do to prevent baldness other than fin because my head shape is subhuman without hair.
 
What are the risks other than sex drive? And what should I do to prevent baldness other than fin because my head shape is subhuman without hair.
Zero libido, Erection quality low and eventually zero and can't get it up without forcing it, depression, brain fog, anhedonia, dead penis aka disconnected from mind/body, sensitivity zero, testicular pain, etc the list goes on. Either try microdose topical fin like that guy or i dunno honestly.
There are some softmaxxes you can do
scalp massaging every day with coconut oil to increase bloodflow to your head. Dermarolling, Red light therapy hair growth cap, Viviscal man supplement (their own formula, never mentioned on this forum) etc
There's also natural DHT blockers like Lion's Mane, an alternative to Finasteride/Dutasteride.
 
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Thoughts on topical finasteride? It can't be as bad right since it's just blocking DHT on the scalp and not in the whole body.
It's not as bad at all
 
I also take fin, quit and started taking fin since april 2022. Im so confused. Thinking of giving it up
 
Zero libido, Erection quality low and eventually zero and can't get it up without forcing it, depression, brain fog, anhedonia, dead penis aka disconnected from mind/body, sensitivity zero, testicular pain, etc the list goes on. Either try microdose topical fin like that guy or i dunno honestly.
There are some softmaxxes you can do
scalp massaging every day with coconut oil to increase bloodflow to your head. Dermarolling, Red light therapy hair growth cap, Viviscal man supplement (their own formula, never mentioned on this forum) etc
There's also natural DHT blockers like Lion's Mane, an alternative to Finasteride/Dutasteride.

Holy shit I have all these symptoms including testicular pain. My right nut has been sore for like a couple months now. Thanks for the info man.
 
I also take fin, quit and started taking fin since april 2022. Im so confused. Thinking of giving it up

I think I'll throw away the rest of my finasteride and just get a hair system.
 
I think I'll throw away the rest of my finasteride and just get a hair system.
Hair transplant should suffice until we have something safer in 2024/25, and no you don't need to take finasteride after a hair transplant regardlessof what the shills here tell you. The hair from the back of your head that will be removed and place on top is DHT-resistant which is why you didn't go bald there. Finasteride is poison man, hope you don't have lasting effects even after quitting like a lot of people do.
 
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I’m so happy I take fin, along with a good diet and exercise it improved the quality of my skin immensely. I grew my hair out over the last few months and had 3 different girls compliment my hair last night. One was a milf who literally was pulling at my hair going “oh my fucking god you have such thick hair” Jfl at her husband I cucked
 
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I’m so happy I take fin, along with a good diet and exercise it improved the quality of my skin immensely. I grew my hair out over the last few months and had 3 different girls compliment my hair last night. One was a milf who literally was pulling at my hair going “oh my fucking god you have such thick hair” Jfl at her husband I cucked
Do you take just fin or do you also do other shit like dermaneedling and min?
 
It will make your feminine over time, just look at that fin shill haircafe, he looks like a woman JFL. Block DHT = feminization. I won't give you advice because ultimately we all have to solely take the risks but you know if your EQ becomes worse, libido gets worse, brain fog starts happening. It can get a whole lot worse so just keep that in mind.
Haircafé looks really good for his age, if anything it proves his point
 
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So will it make me become a woman then or not? Should I get off it?
Don't listen to johndoe. Talking about haircafe as though your bone structure can change and become more "feminine" as an adult, and haircafe doesn't even look feminine. Besides, test increases on fin, u only need DHT during puberty
 
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Don't listen to johndoe. Talking about haircafe as though your bone structure can change and become more "feminine" as an adult, and haircafe doesn't even look feminine. Besides, test increases on fin, u only need DHT during puberty
I don’t even know why Haircafé hasn’t been brought up here before. The guy has been on a crusade against DHT for decades and looks fantastic for being in his 40s. Coincidence?
 
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It will make your feminine over time, just look at that fin shill haircafe, he looks like a woman JFL. Block DHT = feminization. I won't give you advice because ultimately we all have to solely take the risks but you know if your EQ becomes worse, libido gets worse, brain fog starts happening. It can get a whole lot worse so just keep that in mind.
Can you point to anyone else besides him? Would you look at him as a tranny if you didn't know he was on finasteride?

Any particular reason that actors in Hollywood doesn't look like trannies, while most of them have been on fin for years?
 
Can you point to anyone else besides him? Would you look at him as a tranny if you didn't know he was on finasteride?

Any particular reason that actors in Hollywood doesn't look like trannies, while most of them have been on fin for years?
Even if i didn't know he was on fin, you can tell there's something off or odd about him, he looks feminine. Point to someone else? i mean you're coping because we both know it causes you to be feminine over time and the reason he looks so womanly is because he's been taking it for quite some time, the changes are gradual. Actors do look feminine sometimes but we don't know for sure which actors are on fin, all we can do is speculate so this "experiement" wouldn't work.
Also JFL at all the fin shills that swarm any thread about hair, so cancer.
 
Don't listen to johndoe. Talking about haircafe as though your bone structure can change and become more "feminine" as an adult, and haircafe doesn't even look feminine. Besides, test increases on fin, u only need DHT during puberty
Hairccafe doesn't look feminine? think you need to get your eyes checked. Test increase is not significant enough to make any real changes and the DHT reduction is 70% aka more than significant and overtime it twill make you feminine and reduce your masculinity which DHT is responsible for. Completely delusional thinking you can cull such an important hormone like DHT by 70-75% and nothing bad will happen. Let me guess, you think PFS doesn't exist? this forum is lost when it comes to hair, just shill fin and what not. Also, i thought you don't even take fin and were trying to microdose topical version yet here you are shilling it.
 
Even if i didn't know he was on fin, you can tell there's something off or odd about him, he looks feminine. Point to someone else? i mean you're coping because we both know it causes you to be feminine over time and the reason he looks so womanly is because he's been taking it for quite some time, the changes are gradual. Actors do look feminine sometimes but we don't know for sure which actors are on fin, all we can do is speculate so this "experiement" wouldn't work.
Also JFL at all the fin shills that swarm any thread about hair, so cancer.
No, we both don't know that. I'm asking you to provide some more examples than N=1 to backup your claim.
Do you have pictures of Haircafe before he nuked his DHT? You're not gonna get any meaningful evidence in this case before that.

There was a twin study done where one used dutasteride and the other one did nothing.
There's a reddit post you can see here. I believe it's been linked before.

Guy on the left have been on dutasteride for 6 years. I can't see anything that makes him more tranny than the other one.

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No, we both don't know that. I'm asking you to provide some more examples than N=1 to backup your claim.
Do you have pictures of Haircafe before he nuked his DHT? You're not gonna get any meaningful evidence in this case before that.

There was a twin study done where one used dutasteride and the other one did nothing.
There's a reddit post you can see here. I believe it's been linked before.

Guy on the left have been on dutasteride for 6 years. I can't see anything that makes him more tranny than the other one.

twin-brothers-hair-loss.jpg
Get your eyes checked, even this example is quite clear that the guy on fin is more feminine than his counterpart. You guys are blind as shit if you can't see the differences, what a waste of time this is, arguing with people who unironically think that woman haircafe is masculine in any way shape or form.
 
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Do you take just fin or do you also do other shit like dermaneedling and min?
i only take fin, ive been on in for almost 5 months. im 21 so i got on it really early. my hair has always been super thick for a white dude, like elvis type hair, and last year it thinned out to the point where it was almost a normal thickness instead of extremly thick, my hairline also was pushed up enough where i noticed it but no one else could. my hairline in the forelock has been filling in really well lately, i plan on posting a big review thread in feb/march. ive always had high temples because of my skull shape (extremley sloped forehead like a neanderthal, and really squared forehead)
 
Get your eyes checked, even this example is quite clear that the guy on fin is more feminine than his counterpart. You guys are blind as shit if you can't see the differences, what a waste of time this is, arguing with people who unironically think that woman haircafe is masculine in any way shape or form.
so what one would you rather be? the one with a full head of hair? or the one with bozo the clown hair? the one with all his hair just has slight fat in his chin area and he could be slightly heavier. just because theyre twins doesnt mean theyre the same weight all the time
 
Get your eyes checked, even this example is quite clear that the guy on fin is more feminine than his counterpart. You guys are blind as shit if you can't see the differences, what a waste of time this is, arguing with people who unironically think that woman haircafe is masculine in any way shape or form.
You have failed to provide anything of scientific value at all throughout this thread.
 
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Hair transplant should suffice until we have something safer in 2024/25, and no you don't need to take finasteride after a hair transplant regardlessof what the shills here tell you. The hair from the back of your head that will be removed and place on top is DHT-resistant which is why you didn't go bald there. Finasteride is poison man, hope you don't have lasting effects even after quitting like a lot of people do.
totally wrong/untrue, the transplanted hair will start to thin out gradually, it is necessary to continue with DHT blockers and Minoxidil, nothing but Fina and Minox prevents baldness.

I saw several friends with transplanted hair going bald again
 
totally wrong/untrue, the transplanted hair will start to thin out gradually, it is necessary to continue with DHT blockers and Minoxidil, nothing but Fina and Minox prevents baldness.

I saw several friends with transplanted hair going bald again
I said the transplanted hair is resistant, to a certain degree, not completely immune. It will take time and by then we should have new drugs on the market that hopefully don't have the life-ruining sides of fin.
 
totally wrong/untrue, the transplanted hair will start to thin out gradually, it is necessary to continue with DHT blockers and Minoxidil, nothing but Fina and Minox prevents baldness.

I saw several friends with transplanted hair going bald again
This is inaccurate.
Assuming the surgeon got the slightest clue, then *only* DHT resistant hair at the back will be taken.
When placed in the front, they retain all the DHT resistant properties. Some of the transplanted hair follicles may die shortly after the transplant just due to misplacement/lack of circulation or whatever, this is expected.

Your friends probably continued to recede due to not having stabilized their hair loss and not taking any DHT blockers after the transplant, which you obviously have to do, to not lose the remaining hair on top that wasn't transplanted.
 
Haircafe and the other fin shills will never hear any of this. They like to pretend it's a miracle drug with absolutely no side effects, it has become their identity at this point.
 
Hairccafe doesn't look feminine? think you need to get your eyes checked. Test increase is not significant enough to make any real changes and the DHT reduction is 70% aka more than significant and overtime it twill make you feminine and reduce your masculinity which DHT is responsible for. Completely delusional thinking you can cull such an important hormone like DHT by 70-75% and nothing bad will happen. Let me guess, you think PFS doesn't exist? this forum is lost when it comes to hair, just shill fin and what not. Also, i thought you don't even take fin and were trying to microdose topical version yet here you are shilling it.
Microdose topical because I'm still developing
 
I'm glad I no longer take fin honestly. Felt like it wasn't a risk worth taking in the long run.

Red light therapy seems to be a much safer option.
yeah but how does the light get through your hair 💀
 
I don’t even know why Haircafé hasn’t been brought up here before. The guy has been on a crusade against DHT for decades and looks fantastic for being in his 40s. Coincidence?
Legit, I honestly think that fin is overpowered at anti aging.
 
I'm 24 in a month, take it since I'm 20 and have no side effects. The pictures speak for themselves. Everyone who doesn't give it a try at least can only blame themselves for going bald.
 

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Informative and legit thread

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DHT makes you handsome

//Nick Wilde 🦊
 
these rats/mice usually get treated with insane dosis that would equalize to a human taking 90mg fin per day

hence you cannot simply transfer the result to humans for that reason alone

also in the study everything went to baseline after 30 days of discontinuing the drug


@jondoe advice to just get a hairtransplant without taking finasteride is highly irresponsible and misleading.


normally guys who havr the bald gene eventually end up between norwood 5 and 7

meaning the hair behind the transplanted hair will keep falling out. touch up transplants are not always possible. its simple math

you are destinied to reach a norwood stage beyond norwood 3 (in some rare cases norwood 4, 5) there is no way you escape finasteride if you want a good aesthetic result. in average the norwood 1 to norwood 5 area consists in a non balding male of 50.000 hairs, that means 25.000 folicles. for illusion of hair you need at least 50%, so 12.500 folicles. average donor is 6.000. game over.



as long as you are not absolutely sure that you wont receed beyond norwood 3/4 dont get a hairtransplant if you are not willing to take finasteride.

either accept your future as baldcel or get a wig.
 
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This is inaccurate.
Assuming the surgeon got the slightest clue, then *only* DHT resistant hair at the back will be taken.
When placed in the front, they retain all the DHT resistant properties. Some of the transplanted hair follicles may die shortly after the transplant just due to misplacement/lack of circulation or whatever, this is expected.

Your friends probably continued to recede due to not having stabilized their hair loss and not taking any DHT blockers after the transplant, which you obviously have to do, to not lose the remaining hair on top that wasn't transplanted.

many surgeons take hairs from non safe zones, so those hairs will definitely go with time if you are not on drugs. the hairloss dips behind the crown can go very deep.

and then there is retrograde alopecia

then anothrt factor is that also the hair on the safe donor zone is getting thinner with time, if you look at old people even with norwood 1 the hair looks usually very thin or at least thinner compared to their young age


these will make the transplanted region look more bald bc they are very few hairs to beginn with (at least in comparison to natural density)



but the most brutal aspect is indeed as you stated that the non transplanted hair normally will go

it will look like this

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I'm 24 in a month, take it since I'm 20 and have no side effects. The pictures speak for themselves. Everyone who doesn't give it a try at least can only blame themselves for going bald.
A good question to ask is; what factor is playing a role in your hair loss, especially at 20?
 
these rats/mice usually get treated with insane dosis that would equalize to a human taking 90mg fin per day

hence you cannot simply transfer the result to humans for that reason alone
Thanks for bringing this up. So, here's a review on finasteride to munch on now.


'Even if at first glance it might seem that the finasteride use is pretty safe, in fact, it is not even so. Recent studies show the fact that androgenic alopecia may actually underlie to depressive symptoms and suicidal thoughts among former users of finasteride with persistent sexual side effects.'
 
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