First cycle, Mid test+other compounds (HIGH IQ ROIDERS ONLY PLEASE)

[Doom0]

I’m 15.5, 182 cm, somewhat lean but still skinny-fat. I’m trying to get leaner.


My original plan was to cut first, then bulk using 500 mg testosterone + an AI, but I’m worried about early growth plate closure. (local estrogen)


some suggested lowering testosterone (200–350 mg) and adding non-aromatizing compounds like Trenbolone or Anavar.


I’m considering 250 test + 50 tren + 20 anavar for 15 weeks, then cruising on TRT before another cycle.


My goal is to recomp (lose fat + gain muscle) and get a top physique. I’m willing to accept risks and plan to use support supplements.

Any advice?, Compounds to add and what to change? I dont think 50 tren is that bad of a dose, although im kind of afraid of the sides

 

[thodian]

u can microdose tren at 50-80mg a week and u will get benefits with little to no sides

 

[Doom0]

u can microdose tren at 50-80mg a week and u will get benefits with little to no sides

should be fine then, even if its my first cycle?, 50% of the people i ask are telling me im retarded the others say i should be fine

 

[i_blamegamertag]

should be fine then, even if its my first cycle?, 50% of the people i ask are telling me im retarded the others say i should be fine

No its fine

 

[thodian]

should be fine then, even if its my first cycle?, 50% of the people i ask are telling me im retarded the others say i should be fine

should be fine then, even if its my first cycle?, 50% of the people i ask are telling me im retarded the others say i should be fine

i suggest u being on test for 3-4 months prior to adding tren and when u do start on the lower side (50) then see how u feel

 

[jalal04]

bro wtf are you doing anavar is cutting steroids stay away from tren as your first cycle im againt the idea of you bulk you dont need to bulk to build muscle but just start by taking 500 mg of test diveded by 2 250/250 during the week see how your body reacts

 

[Doom0]

bro wtf are you doing anavar is cutting steroids stay away from tren as your first cycle im againt the idea of you bulk you dont need to bulk to build muscle but just start by taking 500 mg of test diveded by 2 250/250 during the week see how your body reacts

yeah as i said im tryna recomp, why only 2 pins on 500 test the sides would be insane then i could just do daily, also as i said i dont wanna do 500 because of the insane aromatisation that would happen locally inside of my growth plates thats also the whole reason i wanted to 250+50 tren+some anavar the tren and anavar are an attempt to make up for the 250 that are missing since im not doing 500,

 

[jalal04]

you wanna run tren for 15 weeks for your first cycle are you retarded

 

[jalal04]

stay away from tren is the worst steroids crazy side effects

 

[Doom0]

you wanna run tren for 15 weeks for your first cycle are you retarded

low dose, and i was asking for advice or other compounds that maybe could replace the tren since i do know its pretty risky

 

[Doom0]

stay away from tren is the worst steroids crazy side effects

do you know how little 50 tren is, people on here run like 250-500+, although you are right that its not 100% smart to run it with my first cycle

 

[jalal04]

wathever bro i just tried to warn you do your research and if you are sure 100 percent do it

 

[Doom0]

wathever bro i just tried to warn you do your research and if you are sure 100 percent do it

im not, im sure that i do not want to run high doses of test (500+), but im sure that i will do atleast 250 with some slight compounds

 

[jalal04]

what is your build
fat skinny what is bf

 

[Doom0]

what is your build
fat skinny what is bf

First picture is alot more recent and im also decently leaner in that one, i just dont have many physique pics so the first one is alot more accurate

 

[jalal04]

to be honest you dont need anavar because its a cutting steroids i would really suggest you to take only test as your first cycle
take a low dose and if you see that you have no side effects just increase the dose easy and safe
tren is gonna make you unlive people and mess with your brain and bery high propability to get crazy acne even with a low dose
you can add some peptide like mk

 

[Doom0]

to be honest you dont need anavar because its a cutting steroids i would really suggest you to take only test as your first cycle
take a low dose and if you see that you have no side effects just increase the dose easy and safe
tren is gonna make you unlive people and mess with your brain and bery high propability to get crazy acne even with a low dose
you can add some peptide like mk

any oral steroid or small thing i can add? I was thinking anavar for the strenght gains also since its pretty mild tbh and why are you telling me that its a cutting steroid im telling you i want to lose fat and gain a good amount of muscle, A RECOMP wouldnt anavar aid in that? I know im decently lean but still have some fat in my lower abdomen and hips

 

[jalal04]

Dianabol /Aromasin/Nolvadex search about them see the risks they are better than tren a recomp its a lie you need to maximize your gains while on steroids so you gonna have to do a clean bulk by adding 500-800 calories to your maitenanace and 2 g of protein per pound
and you are already lean i can see your abs bro what fat you wanna lose if you wanna do a recomp you need to eat your maitenece that is not good for building muscle

 

[Doom0]

Dianabol /Aromasin/Nolvadex search about them see the risks they are better than tren a recomp its a lie you need to maximize your gains while on steroids so you gonna have to do a clean bulk by adding 500-800 calories to your maitenanace and 2 g of protein per pound
and you are already lean i can see your abs bro what fat you wanna lose if you wanna do a recomp you need to eat your maitenece that is not good for building muscle

im gonna add an AI such as aromasin or arimidex i already know about them, im gonna use tamoxifen (nolvadex) for my slight gyno, also this is flexed in good lighting i wanna get leaner im probably like 16% bodyfat i think, Is DBOL a good option? Better than var?

 

[jalal04]

depends for building muscle dbol is better
but var stil a strong option