First Roid Cycle – Need Help (Test Only or Stack?)

[iblamealen]

so I’m planning to start a 500mg/week test cycle. I’ve gone through the botb threads, old first cycle guide (2019), and newer posts, so basics like source and setup are sorted.

My goal is little bit of muscles and more bone mass / structure.

From what I read:

• The 2019 guide says just do 500mg test for 16 weeks.
• Newer posts say add HGH for better recovery, skin, less bloat.
• But then I saw people saying HGH needs like a year to actually do anything, so 16 weeks seems pointless.

Then I read the ascension guide from @PsychoDsk where he used test + anadrol + winstrol weekly and got solid results.

So now I’m confused:

• go simple test only
• add HGH (but short cycle seems useless)
• or go harsher with anadrol + winstrol

Main goal = bone mass / structure, not just size.

Anyone who’s actually tried this stuff, what’s the move?

 

[iamnotgrayipromise]

you can add hgh, i dont see why not

 

[notlarpingscott]

so I’m planning to start a 500mg/week test cycle. I’ve gone through the botb threads, old first cycle guide (2019), and newer posts, so basics like source and setup are sorted.

My goal is little bit of muscles and more bone mass / structure.

From what I read:

• The 2019 guide says just do 500mg test for 16 weeks.
• Newer posts say add HGH for better recovery, skin, less bloat.
• But then I saw people saying HGH needs like a year to actually do anything, so 16 weeks seems pointless.

Then I read the ascension guide from @PsychoDsk where he used test + anadrol + winstrol weekly and got solid results.

So now I’m confused:

• go simple test only
• add HGH (but short cycle seems useless)
• or go harsher with anadrol + winstrol

Main goal = bone mass / structure, not just size.

Anyone who’s actually tried this stuff, what’s the move?

Add hgh if you can afford good doses

 

[iblamealen]

Add hgh if you can afford good doses

daily how much dose ? 8iu enough or need more

 

[notlarpingscott]

daily how much dose ? 8iu enough or need more

8+ iu is good just dont go too crazy

 

[iblamealen]

you can add hgh, i dont see why not

16 weeks enough to get benefits from hgh ?

 

[iblamealen]

8+ iu is good just dont go too crazy

okay thanks

 

[PsychoDsk]

300 test
150 tren
5ius growth

Done

 

[iblamealen]

300 test
150 tren
5ius growth

Done

but is it a good idea to run tren on first cycle ? also if i am running this cycle should i up my dutasteride dose to 2 to 3mg and accutane to 60 to 80mg daily ? rn i am on 0.5mg dut daily with minox 2.5mg and 40mg accutane .

 

[greylol]

Just finished my test cycle with anadrol daily for 4 weeks

I ran it for 16 weeks like you, started my cruise last week

Do it

 

[iblamealen]

Just finished my test cycle with anadrol daily for 4 weeks

I ran it for 16 weeks like you, started my cruise last week

Do it

Nice bro! What dose were you running?

Did you notice any changes in your face—like fullness, bloating, or sharper features?

Also, how was it on sides: any hair loss or acne, or were you mostly fine?

 

[PsychoDsk]

but is it a good idea to run tren on first cycle ? also if i am running this cycle should i up my dutasteride dose to 2 to 3mg and accutane to 60 to 80mg daily ? rn i am on 0.5mg dut daily with minox 2.5mg and 40mg accutane .

Maybe 50mg tren to start off
Meh aslong as ur glands are shut, u can get away with permacruising 10mgs accutane for aslong as u want without sides and no acne ever again
Don’t know enough about dut to give u advice on it

 

[iblamealen]

Maybe 50mg tren to start off
Meh aslong as ur glands are shut, u can get away with permacruising 10mgs accutane for aslong as u want without sides and no acne ever again
Don’t know enough about dut to give u advice on it

Alright bro, appreciate it ! that actually helps, gonna start low and see how it goes. Thanks