I’d argue it doesn’t matter that immigrants aren’t overrepresented, it’s just that fact that any at all are able to live in the uk free of charge at all.Lets put this to rest since there was a lot of copemaxxing going on in the thread. I have compiled al the data from DWP, OBR, and Family Resources Survey and there's concrete evidence that backs this up with zero spin. I'll give you drink links and quotes latest releases up to June 2025 / April 2026 stats and all offical gov.uk links and direct quotes so you can verify every number yourself.
The people who put the most strain on British welfare is not immigrants
A Britishcel once told me about this and I found it very interesting The biggest burden aren't even Immigrants. They make a tiny portion of it which barely matters. The heaviest hitters are actually British single moms. UK welfare is around £300bn+, with massive chunks on Universal Credit...looksmax.org
Total welfare bill is for £333.7 billion forecast for social security in 2025/26 (DWP + tax credits + Child Benefit + NI). Working-age + children spending alone. £145 billion.Disability/health benefits are the massive and growing chunk.
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Universal Credit. 7.9 million people on UC as of the stats available to us from last year June 2025. Households with children = 50% of all paying households. Single parent households are massively over represented: 54% of households hit by the now-scrapped two child limit were single-parent families (251,830 out of 469,780 in April 2025 data). Lone parents are only ~15% of all UK families but dominate the highcost, long-term caseload.
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And these were explicitly White British families as mentioned above
And as benefit cap proof. 68-69% of all capped households are single-parent families. They've consistently been the majority since 2020. Single parents = the core repeat customers for the uncapped, high-payout setups.
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Now here's the real kicker. 40% of two child limit affected households (189,480) had at least one health/disability claim (DLA, PIP, UC health element, or disabled child element). Specifically: 24% had a child on DLA (112,760 households) and 14% had a claimant on PIP. These stack extra UC elements, full housing top-ups, exemptions from the benefit cap, and Carer's Allowance (£83.30+/ week). One "special needs" claim turns a standard payout into a £40k-£60k+ tax-free annual package. This is the real Allowance jackpot
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Real world cash example. A found an article talking about this. A real world example. A single out-of-work mum
with 3 kids + disability claims (UC + housing+ PIP/DLA + Carer's) pulls £43,000/year.Add more kids + stacked claims and it hits £46k+ for a family with health benefits. In high-rent areas the housing top-up alone pushes it higher. This is legal, documented, and common
Three-child family in work needs £71,000 a year before tax to match equivalent jobless family – post Budget research - The Centre for Social Justice
Jobless families on combined benefits will now take home £18,000 more per year than the post-tax wages of a working family, following the abolition of the twowww.centreforsocialjustice.org.uk
Immigrants for comparison. 83.6% of UC claimants are UK/Ireland/Right of Abode (99.8% UK citizens). Foreign nationals = ~16%. £10.6bn to unemployed migrant households over 18 months in 2025. A lot of money yes but spare change compared to native lone-parent + disability machine
There's no argument to be had. You can click on those links and verify every sentence that I typed out yourself. So if you are disagree with this and want to hold onto your narrative, you are essentially disagreeing with your own UK government official stats.
Mirin the work compiling everything, but it's pretty easily understood that if A) The UK's biggest expenditure is social welfare and B) Ethnic Brits are still ostensibly ~78% of the population, we can infer that natives account for the largest share of fiscal burden, before we ever dive into each atomised group's share of entitlements. And if we wanna get into breaking down statistics per capita, there are some pretty damning ones (rape, prison population, etc.) that foreign-born groups place high on.
not a single immigrant deserves welfare you resentful utter retard, the only thing they need is to be shot in the headWell well well whites taking a loss again
@goku21 @HtnceI if brit was majority non white it would be a greater country
Not surprising of lone white British moms to take advantage of a system for helping people who really need it
you are ethnic and retarded, research suicide methods bud
I wonder how you rationalise the satistics for albanians
Yeah, I'm one who doesn't chimp out about it.
And it was a comedy skit, cheesus. I didn't say we should do it. It's called fucking dark humour. You've never laughed at something morbid? How low T are you?
I didnt rly disagree with the stats on the og post though, my concerns for immigration lay in cultural stabillity and having a nation state that serves the ethnically british people, welfare state for the UK in general is just a shit status quo atm
Miring the effort put in this though despite our disagreement, I wish more people would put more effort into their posts like this
Abortion is evil, bro.
Cupcakes become single mums because of the rape gangs that the Zambian rapist sets up in the midlands
No one lives in the UK "free of charge." Between VAT on everything they buy, the massive upfront Immigration Health Surcharge, and the taxes they pay on their wages and If you cut off all support, you create self fulfilling prophecy. Denying people the right to work or basic support doesn't make them disappear they just turn to life of crime.
I don't think you understand"total volume" with "net impact." Of course the majority group uses the most services-they're the majority. The point is that legal immigrants pay into the pot at a higher rate per capita before they can ever draw from it. If you remove that surplus, the "fiscal burden" on the 78% natives doesn't get lighter, it gets heavier because the tax base shrinks while the infrastructure costs remain. This is how it works
We're talking past each other.
curious for you to think conservatives are literate enough to read thisLets put this to rest since there was a lot of copemaxxing going on in the thread. I have compiled al the data from DWP, OBR, and Family Resources Survey and there's concrete evidence that backs this up with zero spin. I'll give you drink links and quotes latest releases up to June 2025 / April 2026 stats and all offical gov.uk links and direct quotes so you can verify every number yourself.
The people who put the most strain on British welfare is not immigrants
A Britishcel once told me about this and I found it very interesting The biggest burden aren't even Immigrants. They make a tiny portion of it which barely matters. The heaviest hitters are actually British single moms. UK welfare is around £300bn+, with massive chunks on Universal Credit...
Total welfare bill is for £333.7 billion forecast for social security in 2025/26 (DWP + tax credits + Child Benefit + NI). Working-age + children spending alone. £145 billion.Disability/health benefits are the massive and growing chunk.
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Universal Credit. 7.9 million people on UC as of the stats available to us from last year June 2025. Households with children = 50% of all paying households. Single parent households are massively over represented: 54% of households hit by the now-scrapped two child limit were single-parent families (251,830 out of 469,780 in April 2025 data). Lone parents are only ~15% of all UK families but dominate the highcost, long-term caseload.
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And these were explicitly White British families as mentioned above
And as benefit cap proof. 68-69% of all capped households are single-parent families. They've consistently been the majority since 2020. Single parents = the core repeat customers for the uncapped, high-payout setups.
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Now here's the real kicker. 40% of two child limit affected households (189,480) had at least one health/disability claim (DLA, PIP, UC health element, or disabled child element). Specifically: 24% had a child on DLA (112,760 households) and 14% had a claimant on PIP. These stack extra UC elements, full housing top-ups, exemptions from the benefit cap, and Carer's Allowance (£83.30+/ week). One "special needs" claim turns a standard payout into a £40k-£60k+ tax-free annual package. This is the real Allowance jackpot
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Real world cash example. A found an article talking about this. A real world example. A single out-of-work mum
with 3 kids + disability claims (UC + housing+ PIP/DLA + Carer's) pulls £43,000/year.Add more kids + stacked claims and it hits £46k+ for a family with health benefits. In high-rent areas the housing top-up alone pushes it higher. This is legal, documented, and common
Three-child family in work needs £71,000 a year before tax to match equivalent jobless family – post Budget research - The Centre for Social Justice
Jobless families on combined benefits will now take home £18,000 more per year than the post-tax wages of a working family, following the abolition of the two
Immigrants for comparison. 83.6% of UC claimants are UK/Ireland/Right of Abode (99.8% UK citizens). Foreign nationals = ~16%. £10.6bn to unemployed migrant households over 18 months in 2025. A lot of money yes but spare change compared to native lone-parent + disability machine
There's no argument to be had. You can click on those links and verify every sentence that I typed out yourself. So if you are disagree with this and want to hold onto your narrative, you are essentially disagreeing with your own UK government official stats.
its better for people not to have children in their current circumstance or ever for some
I agree.
I don't really view it as murder since its not fully human
