Check it, I think it could be interesting, in the fact the result could be even better and faster as the case in the article shows.
Btw, how do you think is it possible to implement mse but just to use it like a base for the facepuller ? Don't really interested in widening upper jaw, only in forward growth and upswing
the foid did great in that study ngl 1.5mm in 4 months although there will probably diminishing returns so u can't expect 1.5mm every 4 months
Yeah, it's from the article I attended. It's a progress of just 4 monthsBefore afters From Study (19-year-1-month-old Caucasian female with slight underbite)
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ngl i will facepull for 23 hours a day leaving only 1 hour to not die of starvation
You don’t need mse for results but it will help give quicker results
Well, I don't know if it available for bones but I want to believe they would allow to increase weight (so and force as a result) too
a lot of force might be unbearable to wear all day ngl
Ideally go to a maxillofacial surgeon and have bollard miniplates installed
Boyo I am utterly recessed and 18 years old what do you recommend me to do? I mean what weight to pull and if I should get MSE ASAP? I don’t have much money atm but I am willing to do everything to looksmax
Anyway I need some anchor on my palate, I think device like mse is the best as it's implements inside the palate (not some shirt like CopeAndRope used to create) so the result would be the best with MSE, all I want to know if it's possible just to implement mse, not to make it work on widening, just left it in start position as an anchor for fp
Did her zygos widen from the expansion though?Expansion/Facemask Treatment of an Adult Class III Malocclusion
The orthodontic treatment of class III malocclusion with a maxillary deficiency is often treated with maxillary protraction with or without expansion. Skeletal and dental changes have been documented which have combined for the protraction of the maxilla and the correction of the class III...www.hindawi.com
there’s something called bone anchored maxillary protraction and that’s basically what you are talking about, it requires surgical implantation for the plates though
Yes mse is best in your case, but keep in mind if your lower arch isn’t already bigger you will need a way to expand that too
Don't even ever heard about "bollard miniplates" thank you for this name dropping, do you know any useful thread on .me about it ?
no not really, but look up bone anchored maxillary protraction.
Is this the "Surgical Implantation" you are talking about ?
So, what it exactly doing ? I'm interested in upswing and forward growth, there is not a lot info about BM, sorry
I considered seriously, I think it's the best way indeed, but the only problem - I don't want mse to expand my jaw, I'm only need it as an anchor, I would like to use anything like anchor for fp, anything that inserts in my bone, I think this is the best variant, I don't believe Nelson's do v.2 would do it as fast as using mse, but who knows
Best option for you is to just split the suture with mse and then use the facepuller for the rest of the 2 years
I'm only want to use mse as a fp's anchor, I honestly don't want to split the suture
I'm interested in upswing and forward growth
You have to split the suture for the facemask to work effectively
Oh, I guess I understood what you are talking about, like split it not in right and left (widening) but back and forward yeah ?
Sorry but I hope you understood me, I can't write it properly as I'm lack of terms
it's not even that hard tbh if they can't do this i don't think they'll get what they call "no-cope" surgeries
99.9% of people wont even build one so thee is no competition
You can split ur suture manually by thumbpulling
Well, it's not hard at all. Sometimes I think some ppl just trying to spend all free time there, not to improve anything. There were so many discussions about LeFort 1-3, but I saw only one man who really did it there. A lot of ppl here just stupid degenerates and gays who visiting this website not to achieve any results but to make some fun in comments and discuss (fap on) some alien-like male models. Sad to know that educational resource where ppl could really do something for their own future indeed drawn in gangs of idiots and close gays.
YOU HAVE TO BUILD THIS YOU LAZY PIECE OF SHIT GREYCEL FAGGOT
Well, I'm 21 y.o., as I know (as I used to read) it's impossible to split the suture in either non surgical way or without mse. But today I discovered some things from this thread, so I guess I need some time for more deep analysis. Honestly, it's sad but there are no orthodontics who could make things from attached article in my country (Ukrainian)
Fuck. My lower arch is narrow as fuck what am I supposed to do then? Quick question is MSE gonna widen my narrow lips? They look comical
Yeah, MSE would widen your lips, I have some familiar case.
Is the red supposed to be “after”Expansion/Facemask Treatment of an Adult Class III Malocclusion
The orthodontic treatment of class III malocclusion with a maxillary deficiency is often treated with maxillary protraction with or without expansion. Skeletal and dental changes have been documented which have combined for the protraction of the maxilla and the correction of the class III...
Holy fuck how did her lip change so much
