Forward grown forehead (first world caucasian pheno) vs. Recessed forehead (third world ethnic poverty pheno)

[Deleted member 399]

While we are focusing on orbitals, maxillas and jaws, the upper third of the face, namely the supraorbital ridge, brow bone and forehead get ignored, so here I am talking about this.

A backward sloped recessed forehead is undesirable. It looks very third world and unmasculine. Its primarily seen among ethnics like mongoloids, many curries and some blacks.

Example of recessed forehead:

Example of a good forward projected forehead:

Here's a morph I did. The morph on the right improves the appearance of forward projection of the forehead, thereby improving attractiveness.

Here's one of Eppley's work on improving forehead projection and masculinity:

 

[Elias]

Basically a forward grown and laterally wide browridge that has a high amount of mass with a low supraorbital ridge

Its talked about a lot

Water

 

[diggbicc]

Water

is scarce

 

[Deleted member 399]

Basically a forward grown and laterally wide browridge that has a high amount of mass with a low supraorbital ridge

Its talked about a lot

Water

When the full forehead grows forward, the width of the upper third of the face appears greater.

 

[Dutcher]

When the full forehead grows forward, the width of the upper third of the face appears greater.

You want a forward grown forehead with browridge that cause a slight 15-10 slope
(Henry cavil)

 

[Tylermax]

How do you grow your forehead forward? Will mewing help??

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Forehead slope is cope, ideal forehead is short af and square

if those guys had lower hairlines their forehead would be straight

 

[Deleted member 3043]

How do you grow your forehead forward? Will mewing help??

chewing will unironically.
and yeah hopefully i have top tier forehead, but that's the most useless part of the face ngl

ideal forehead is short af

no too short forehead is ethnic af and gives peanut skull vibes.

 

[Deleted member 399]

You want a forward grown forehead with browridge that cause a slight 15-10 slope
(Henry cavil)

Cavill meets the requirements I mentioned in OP, but his forehead still has indentations. Its not ideal. Your forehead should be almost flat and shiny. Basically like this:

You cannot have that aristocratic upper class look if you don't have a squarish, shiny forehead without sloping and indentation.

no too short forehead is ethnic af and gives peanut skull vibes.

I agree, but a short upper third often comes from weak recessed and incomplete forward forehead development.

 

[Mr.cope]

its not forward grown its a sloped forehead
its genetic

 

[Deleted member 399]

Forehead slope is cope, ideal forehead is short af and square

Square but not short. A short forehead violates the law of the thirds.

 

[Deleted member 3043]

Square but not short. A short forehead violates the law of the thirds.
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chewing gives you more glabella volume but will make your corner of your forehead rounder due to temporal muscle growth. So i've stoped this shit.

 

[Dutcher]

Cavill meets the requirements I mentioned in OP, but his forehead still has indentations. Its not ideal. Your forehead should be almost flat and shiny. Basically like this:

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You cannot have that aristocratic upper class look if you don't have a squarish, shiny forehead without sloping and indentation.

I agree, but a short upper third often comes from weak recessed and incomplete forward forehead development.

Not really.

Flat forehead lacks masc.

Bruce wayne high profile side

 

[Deleted member 399]

Not really.

Flat forehead lacks masc.

Bruce wayne high profile side

By flat I mean, without indentation and distortion in shape. The forehead should be nice and rectangular. Look at Batman's forehead from the side. Its flat, but forward projected. Look at Nightwing's forehead.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

I thought the ideal forhead was sloped but with a strong browridge? I thought straight vertical forheads were seen as feminine

 

[Deleted member 399]

I thought the ideal forhead was sloped but with a strong browridge? I thought straight vertical forheads were seen as feminine

You don't want too much sloping. 10 degrees at most. Look at the pics I posted and judge based on that.

 

[Phillybeard1996]

You don't want too much sloping. 10 degrees at most. Look at the pics I posted and judge based on that.

Is this too much sloping?

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Square but not short. A short forehead violates the law of the thirds.
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prenatal testosterone lowers hairline therefore a low hairline is masculine. It also makes your lower third look bigger.

 

[Tylermax]

Ideal

 

[godlikesz]

 

[Deleted member 399]

prenatal testosterone lowers hairline therefore a low hairline is masculine. It also makes your lower third look bigger.

prenatal T also makes foreheads bigger, which works against the lowering of the hairline.

Ideal

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YES.

Is this too much sloping?

I'd say this is too sloped. Looks like a neanderthal.

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Zyzz was ethnic. Lost to Jeff Seid when women were asked to rate which of two were hotter.

 

[godlikesz]

Zyzz was ethnic. Lost to Jeff Seid when women were asked to rate which of two were hotter.

i mog him yeah

 

[wristcel]

 

[Deleted member 5393]

prenatal T also makes foreheads bigger, which works against the lowering of the hairline.

YES.

I'd say this is too sloped. Looks like a neanderthal.

Zyzz was ethnic. Lost to Jeff Seid when women were asked to rate which of two were hotter.

No prenatal T just makes your forehead shorter and wider, more square. round hairline with tall forehead is a cuck trait.

 

[Deleted member 399]

No prenatal T just makes your forehead shorter and wider, more square. round hairline with tall forehead is a cuck trait.

Square and wide is fine. Not debating that. But if you have a short forehead, you'll look ethnic and poverty stricken. Short forehead = small skull. Short upper third with relatively bigger middle and lower thirds look disproportionate and unattractive.

 

[godlikesz]

No prenatal T just makes your forehead shorter and wider, more square. round hairline with tall forehead is a cuck trait.

 

[Deleted member 399]

This guy has a short forehead, or at least it appears that way with his hairdo, and his face doesn't look balanced.
@Yuyevon
Masculine doesn't always translate to attractiveness and facial harmony.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Square and wide is fine. Not debating that. But if you have a short forehead, you'll look ethnic and poverty stricken. Short forehead = small skull. Short upper third with relatively bigger middle and lower thirds look disproportionate and unattractive.

prenatal testosterone lowers hairline therefore a low hairline is masculine. You just need a long undercut hairstyle on top to balance it out which makes your head look taller. Theres a reason bangs and curtains works so well because they make ur forehead look shorter.

 

[Deleted member 399]

prenatal testosterone lowers hairline therefore a low hairline is masculine. You just need a long undercut hairstyle on top to balance it out which makes your head look taller.

That's using hair to fraud skull shape. Better to have the right skull shape so that there's no need to fraud. Women can sense frauding and cover ups.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

That's using hair to fraud skull shape. Better to have the right skull shape so that there's no need to fraud. Women can sense frauding and cover ups.

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”having hair and eyebrows is frauding”

are u balding bro. Obviously hairline and hair matters and creates the ideal upper third with a short, square hairline and undercut hairstyle.


he looks like a cuck with a higher hairline

 

[Deleted member 399]

he looks like a cuck with a higher hairline
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No his face looks more balanced. Have you heard of law of the thirds? The thirds have to be the same in height for the face to be harmonious. In the pic you posted, the camera is pointing from above, so his morphed hairline makes his face better proportioned.

Hair is often used to create the illusion of an attractively shaped skull. Its intuitive and well understand. Why do you think men cut and shape their hair in a square or rectangular fashion?

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Law of the thirds applies to women, a male should have a taller lower third and shorter upper third because prenatal testosterone lowers hairline, and HGH lengthens jaw

 

[Deleted member 399]

Law of the thirds applies to women, a male should have a taller lower third and shorter upper third because prenatal testosterone lowers hairline, and HGH lengthens jaw

Applies to everyone.

 

[Deleted member 5393]

Applies to everyone.

post a pic of ur hairline so we can see if ur coping bro

 

[Deleted member 399]

post a pic of ur hairline so we can see if ur coping bro

 

[Deleted member 5393]

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Looks ideal

 

[Deleted member 399]

White pheno vs. Ethnic pheno

@Yuyevon

 

[Deleted member 5393]

As you can see he has a tall lower third and shorter forehead

 

[Deleted member 399]

As you can see he has a tall lower third and shorter forehead

Can't see your attachment.

 

[Bewusst]

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This guy has a short forehead, or at least it appears that way with his hairdo, and his face doesn't look balanced.
@Yuyevon
Masculine doesn't always translate to attractiveness and facial harmony.

Average IQ on this forum can be counted with one hand jfl

 

[Deleted member 399]

Average IQ on this forum can be counted with one hand jfl

Dude shut up. Your skull is feminine af and you have pencil neck. Here's a morph:

 

[DianabolDownie]

my forehead is fucking recessed

 

[Deleted member 399]

my forehead is fucking recessed

 

[Papal_Guard]

While we are focusing on orbitals, maxillas and jaws, the upper third of the face, namely the supraorbital ridge, brow bone and forehead get ignored, so here I am talking about this.

A backward sloped recessed forehead is undesirable. It looks very third world and unmasculine. Its primarily seen among ethnics like mongoloids, many curries and some blacks.

Example of recessed forehead:

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Example of a good forward projected forehead:

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Here's a morph I did. The morph on the right improves the appearance of forward projection of the forehead, thereby improving attractiveness.

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Here's one of Eppley's work on improving forehead projection and masculinity:

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Flat foreheads are disgusting to look at in men ngl, makes you seem like a underdeveloped twink

 

[Deleted member 399]

Flat foreheads are disgusting to look at in men ngl, makes you seem like a underdeveloped twink View attachment 347681

Forehead sloping in the diagram is greater than the sloping in the example picture. Way to go an post a pic that invalidates your argument. The example picture has a perfect forehead. Flat with just a bit of sloping, but forward grown. On the other hand, Michael Cera's forehead on the right has no forward projection, regardless of flatness.

 

[Papal_Guard]

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Forehead sloping in the diagram is greater than the sloping in the example picture. Way to go an post a pic that invalidates your argument. The example picture has a perfect forehead. Flat with just a bit of sloping, but forward grown. On the other hand, Michael Cera's forehead on the right has no forward projection, regardless of flatness.

I didnt make that picture either way lol.What benefit do you see in having a flat forehead anyway?To me something like Connor Mcgregors forehead seems much more visually appealing and striking

 

[Bewusst]

Dude shut up. Your skull is feminine af and you have pencil neck. Here's a morph:

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You turned me into an Asian, good job

 

[Deleted member 399]

What benefit do you see in having a flat forehead anyway?

Sloping beyond 10 to 15 degrees gives a neanderthal vibe and alludes to a small head, which I find unattractive. Head should be wide, but not to the point where its a gay alien skull.

Here's Agent 47:

You turned me into an Asian, good job

Turned you into a proper masculine chad.

 

[Papal_Guard]

Sloping beyond 10 to 15 degrees gives a neanderthal vibe and alludes to a small head, which I find unattractive. Head should be wide, but not to the point where its a gay alien skull.

Here's Agent 47:
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Turned you into a proper masculine chad.

Tbh agree on the 10 degrees part, having a literally slanted forehead like Nikolai Valuev isn't ideal either, miring Agent 47 browridge projecting that shadow over his eyes tho

You turned me into an Asian, good job

What is your hairstyle supposed to be

 

[Deleted member 399]

Tbh agree on the 10 degrees part, having a literally slanted forehead like Nikolai Valuev isn't ideal either, miring Agent 47 browridge projecting that shadow over his eyes tho

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