FOUND THE MOST Blackpilled Jaw surgeon, doing any cut.

[fleurybobby]

honestly doesn't matter. for all I know there are more expensive Doctors than Dr Z and I would still recommend him. Theres Dr Sailer in switzerland you can pay up to 120k but they are the same results as Dr Zarrinbal. you gotta understand Dr Z was an artist before he studied medicine, he knows what makes or breaks a face and values facial harmony as much as we do. I did YEARS of research (rotting and browsing) and all roads led to bro.

I know Im glazing here but I also almost went to Dr Ramieri in Rome, hes a little bit more expensive but when I consulted with both Dr Z had a better portfolio and knew what he did AESTHETICALLY and medicinally. I can breath better now and look better

Does Dr. Z have better results than Ramieri? Im seriously considering Ramieri but hes a bit conservative with advancements. What osteotomies does he perform btw?

 

[MOEdification]

I dont think midface grafts will work

Why? You mean won’t work aesthetically or procedure wise?

 

[ferfdd]

I‘ve already made a thread about this austrian surgeon.

He is willing to do lefort 3,2,1 and any variation there is - if it‘s what you need. He doesn‘t say it‘s ethically unjustified or any of that bluepill stuff but rather argues about the aesthetical benefit. He values aesthetics allot. Doesn‘t do implants often.

Today i discussed the possibility of lefort 2 with him (consider nobody does that in europe or elsewhere) and he said he could do that, but my orbitals don‘t seem to have the need to be advanced and i have a big nose so it‘s not the optimal decision. We settled on an HIGH CUT LEFORT 1, so we can pronounce the midface as much as possible, with rotation.

Most people on this forum are unsure about hlf1 rotation and said it‘s not possible but it is. He rotates the upper base CW wise (in my case as i have an anterior open bite), and thus it would advance the midface even more.
He does Lefort 3 for aesthetics aswell, bc for him it‘s just another cut done if necessary either aesthically or functionally.

Bone grafts should not be done on the outside of the bone, as bone is living (soft tissue) and would resorb/get smaller over time as the jaw muscle is not putting pressure on it, thus using them inside the cut bone. He said Wolfs law barely applys to the face (to all the bone smash copers)

There are more but less known surgeons who are low inhib like Giant.

Name?

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Why? You mean won’t work aesthetically or procedure wise?

Will get absorbed or not make the diffrence you‘re looking for

Name?

no

 

[ferfdd]

Will get absorbed or not make the diffrence you‘re looking for

no

Why not

 

[9cel]

doc really lives for looks

why doesnt bro do surgery on himself then

 

[depressionmaxxing]

why doesnt bro do surgery on himself then

He has a giga mogger jaw and teeth.

Why not

Prices/waiting time increases

 

[BlackpillRemedy]

He usually doesn‘t do 3D Planning as it‘s not needed for him but i convinced him to do it for me.

If he doesn't do 3d plannings he's trying to cut expenses for max profit, I've seen the business from up close.

 

[depressionmaxxing]

If he doesn't do 3d plannings he's trying to cut expenses for max profit, I've seen the business from up close.

I don‘t like that aswell, was my first thought. Im playing the game tho, he‘s doing 3D for me, that‘s good enough for me

 

[Eren]

Cant pm you bro your profile is private. Btw if you are still able to change the procedure i will send you mod lefort 2 and 3 (without nasal region)

Who are you

 

[BimaxLaser]

Gatekeeping it as of rn, will drop the name after surgery maybe. This thread is only to explain stuff to jawcels and prove that there are based surgeons everywhere if you look for them.

It would cost like 10-20K aswell, for me it‘s free as insurance covers everything

Are you an Austrian national and could you pm me the surgeons name please danke

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Are you an Austrian national and could you pm me the surgeons name please danke

Ich bin tschetschene landsmann aber ja kann dir schicken

 

[tren_31]

Ich bin tschetschene landsmann aber ja kann dir schicken

und österreichische versicherung zahlt?? nie gehört außer in de

 

[depressionmaxxing]

und österreichische versicherung zahlt?? nie gehört außer in de

Ihr deutschen denkt auch nur ihr habt versicherung

 

[tren_31]

Ihr deutschen denkt auch nur ihr habt versicherung

nein so mein ich das nicht, aber ich hätte gedacht eure wäre da strikter

 

[depressionmaxxing]

nein so mein ich das nicht, aber ich hätte gedacht eure wäre da strikter

Sind halt an sich alles wichser dort aber glaub das ist überall so

 

[Blond3cel]

nein so mein ich das nicht, aber ich hätte gedacht eure wäre da strikter

Strikter als in DE geht es ja eh schon fast nicht verusch mal Bimax auf Kasse zu bekommen hier, du brauchst schon ne richtig krasse Fehlstellung das die des bezahlen.

 

[Blond3cel]

Ich bin tschetschene landsmann aber ja kann dir schicken

Kannst mir den Namen evtl auch schicken möchte mich demnächst nachm Chirurgen umschauen.
Dir noch weiterhin alles gute mit deiner OP !

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Kannst mir den Namen evtl auch schicken möchte mich demnächst nachm Chirurgen umschauen.
Dir noch weiterhin alles gute mit deiner OP !

In nem monat ca hab ich die OP, wenns dann super läuft kann ich ihn dir entweder empfehlen und wenn nicht dann das gegenteil.

Schick mir einfach ne DM irgnwann im Oktober

 

[TheoRaven]

In nem monat ca hab ich die OP, wenns dann super läuft kann ich ihn dir entweder empfehlen und wenn nicht dann das gegenteil.

Schick mir einfach ne DM irgnwann im Oktober

Bro, kannst du mir auch ne DM schicken mit dem Namen? Hab nen verdacht wers ist und hab auch schon nen Termin bei ihm für mitte September, bin mir halt nicht 100% sicher und kann dir keine DM schicken. Aber auch schon mal viel Erflog mit der OP!

 

[truthhurts]

Any news on your surgery? Did u already get it?

 

[truthhurts]

In nem monat ca hab ich die OP, wenns dann super läuft kann ich ihn dir entweder empfehlen und wenn nicht dann das gegenteil.

Schick mir einfach ne DM irgnwann im Oktober

Ich dachte du würdest Trimax als OP haben. Ich hatte auch einen offenen Biss, habe ihn aber mithilfe einer zahnspange zugekriegt. der Biss war ca 8mm offen.

 

[depressionmaxxing]

Any news on your surgery? Did u already get it?

No it got fucking rescheduled to march i am so mad

Ich dachte du würdest Trimax als OP haben. Ich hatte auch einen offenen Biss, habe ihn aber mithilfe einer zahnspange zugekriegt. der Biss war ca 8mm offen.

Ja bro bald relapse kommt

 

[Mr.Proper]

doesn‘t do 3D Planning

That's strange. Don't know how far off the real results are from predictions but predictable surgeries are the future, I think. Custom-made hardware guides help.

 

[depressionmaxxing]

That's strange. Don't know how far off the real results are from predictions but predictable surgeries are the future, I think. Custom-made hardware guides help.

He said he did both, compared both, always had the same results therefor didn‘t need it.

Still asked him to use it on me

 

[incelbhai]

bro how long did you have to be in braces before being ready for surgery? thanks

 

[depressionmaxxing]

bro how long did you have to be in braces before being ready for surgery? thanks

Usually 1-2 years