Frame is the most overglazed factor on org

[59H390]

Many people seem to think that frame is on tier with importance for appeal with height and face.
IMO this is a bad take.

People likely only feel this way because they see comparisons in clavicles with drastically different widths, such as this photo:

Yes, This is an absolutely brutal mog (more so due to face than frame IMO), but it's also important to note that it is EXTREMELY rare to have clavicles as narrow as the left guy.

Nearly everyones clavicles (INCLUDING the dude from your school who pulls all the HTBS) will look similar to this:

This bone structure would not be considered wide/tapered by bodybuilding or .org standards, yet they do not negatively affect your appeal whatsoever.
As long as you are not noticeably extremely narrow shouldered (which is pretty rare, I don't think i've ever seen this IRL), I don't really think frame matters.

Of course, it's a completely different story if your goal is to be a bodybuilder.

ALSO: can everyone stop lying about their bidelt? Seen so many people claiming to have 23 in+ (one guy even said 27, not sure if larp or delusion JFL)


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[59H390]

@BeanCelll @Autistic Goodboy @angrywhiteboy @benchmaxxer @BigBallsLarry

 

[edodalic29]

Lundgren frame or death

 

[59H390]

Lundgren frame or death

for bodybuilding or whatever sure but girls don't GAF about this

 

[eon]

Sounds like cope, sorry man luckily frame is easy to fraud people with the frame listed at the end

 

[benchmaxxer]

high IQ take, having a death tier trait like frame or height can kill your SMV, so people see this example and exaggerate the framepill. We can’t deny that frame still plays a role in SMV tho

 

[59H390]

Sounds like cope, sorry man luckily frame is easy to fraud people with the frame listed at the end

frame only matters for appeal if ur extremely narrow

 

[eon]

frame only matters for appeal if ur extremely narrow

It will always boost your appeal regardless

 

[benchmaxxer]

frame only matters for appeal if ur extremely narrow

a wider frame will always mog a narrower one tho purely talking in frame, not overall SMV

 

[eon]

a wider frame will always mog a narrower one tho purely talking in frame, not overall SMV

Adds to smv.

 

[benchmaxxer]

Adds to smv.

agreed

 

[59H390]

It will always boost your appeal regardless

being a lil wider won't help nearly as much as being taller or having better face.Not disagreeing that it can help to some extent. Some people put it on tier with face and height tho, which I disagree w strongly

 

[59H390]

agreed

agreed, still overglazed af tho

 

[eon]

being a lil wider won't help nearly as much as being taller or having better face.Not disagreeing that it can help to some extent. Some people put it on tier with face and height tho, which I disagree w strongly

Obviously height and face mog, but it is a strong add on.

 

[4Christ_sake]

Many people seem to think that frame is on tier with importance for appeal with height and face.
IMO this is a bad take.

People likely only feel this way because they see comparisons in clavicles with drastically different widths, such as this photo:
View attachment 4099559

Yes, This is an absolutely brutal mog (more so due to face than frame IMO), but it's also important to note that it is EXTREMELY rare to have clavicles as narrow as the left guy.

Nearly everyones clavicles (INCLUDING the dude from your school who pulls all the HTBS) will look similar to this:
View attachment 4099572

This bone structure would not be considered wide/tapered by bodybuilding or .org standards, yet they do not negatively affect your appeal whatsoever.
As long as you are not noticeably extremely narrow shouldered (which is pretty rare, I don't think i've ever seen this IRL), I don't really think frame matters.

Of course, it's a completely different story if your goal is to be a bodybuilder.

ALSO: can everyone stop lying about their bidelt? Seen so many people claiming to have 23 in+ (one guy even said 27, not sure if larp or delusion JFL)


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Girls don’t give a crap about your body I wish I learned this earlier when I got into the gym now I’m a gymcel

 

[59H390]

Girls don’t give a crap about your body I wish I learned this earlier when I got into the gym now I’m a gymcel

as long as ur not extremely narrow and not over 15% body fat, i don't think most girls give af at all. Being muscular/extremely lean/extemely good frame may appeal to some types of girls but all the HTBS from my school don't seem to take this kind of shi into account at all. They only care about face and height

 

[4Christ_sake]

as long as ur not extremely narrow and not over 15% body fat, i don't think most girls give af at all. Being muscular/extremely lean/extemely good frame may appeal to some types of girls but all the HTBS from my school don't seem to take this kind of shi into account at all. They only care about face and height

Generally so over for me even after finding about Bp in 7th grade I still cope and hope a girl finds me attractive for my body

 

[eon]

as long as ur not extremely narrow and not over 15% body fat, i don't think most girls give af at all. Being muscular/extremely lean/extemely good frame may appeal to some types of girls but all the HTBS from my school don't seem to take this kind of shi into account at all. They only care about face and height

This is the thing most of you guys do not understand. Imagine the same guys the htbs from your school are going for with wider clavicles and a shredded lean physique. They will undoubtedly like them 2x more.

 

[59H390]

Generally so over for me even after finding about Bp in 7th grade I still cope and hope a girl finds me attractive for my body

being muscular might add appeal for u w/ some girls. generally they don't gaf tho. some are repulsed by muscles

 

[unon]

Many people seem to think that frame is on tier with importance for appeal with height and face.
IMO this is a bad take.

People likely only feel this way because they see comparisons in clavicles with drastically different widths, such as this photo:
View attachment 4099559

Yes, This is an absolutely brutal mog (more so due to face than frame IMO), but it's also important to note that it is EXTREMELY rare to have clavicles as narrow as the left guy.

Nearly everyones clavicles (INCLUDING the dude from your school who pulls all the HTBS) will look similar to this:
View attachment 4099572

This bone structure would not be considered wide/tapered by bodybuilding or .org standards, yet they do not negatively affect your appeal whatsoever.
As long as you are not noticeably extremely narrow shouldered (which is pretty rare, I don't think i've ever seen this IRL), I don't really think frame matters.

Of course, it's a completely different story if your goal is to be a bodybuilder.

ALSO: can everyone stop lying about their bidelt? Seen so many people claiming to have 23 in+ (one guy even said 27, not sure if larp or delusion JFL)


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Low T post

 

[eon]

This is the thing most of you guys do not understand. Imagine the same guys the htbs from your school are going for with wider clavicles and a shredded lean physique. They will undoubtedly like them 2x more.

My point with this is if you have the height and face... GYMCEL.

If not ldar?? Gymcelling should always be up here

 

[59H390]

This is the thing most of you guys do not understand. Imagine the same guys the htbs from your school are going for with wider clavicles and a shredded lean physique. They will undoubtedly like them 2x more.

True with the wide clavicles. can be a good add on. doesn't matter nearly as much as face or height tho. Also, some girls are repulsed by shredded/muscular physiques

 

[unon]

I mean like who doesn't want a good frame so I have to disagree
MIRIN THE EFFORT THO

 

[59H390]

I mean like who doesn't want a good frame so I have to disagree
MIRIN THE EFFORT THO

not disagreeing, u would be dumb to not want a better frame. All im saying is that girls general do not give a shit about it. Many people make it out to be fucking life or death

 

[eon]

True with the wide clavicles. can be a good add on. doesn't matter nearly as much as face or height tho. Also, some girls are repulsed by shredded/muscular physiques

Cope, no foids are repulsed by this

 

[eon]

Ur title is legit "gymmaxxed" dude

 

[unon]

I

not disagreeing, u would be dumb to not want a better frame. All im saying is that girls general do not give a shit about it. Many people make it out to be fucking life or death

Yea your right

 

[59H390]

Cope, no foids are repulsed by this
View attachment 4099633

not coping, my physique is similar to this. ive seen girls say they don't like this kind of physique

 

[eon]

not coping, my physique is similar to this. ive seen girls say they don't like this kind of physique

Tale

 

[59H390]

Tale

 

[eon]

View attachment 4099637

Jfl i meant the foids saying they dont like a healthy muscular body

 

[59H390]

Jfl i meant the foids saying they dont like a healthy muscular body

some don't

 

[MogsGymMaxx]

being muscular might add appeal for u w/ some girls. generally they don't gaf tho. some are repulsed by muscles

Nigga is just saying shit

 

[Saint Casanova]

Research has shown that frame is very important for female selection and even more so for male respect.

Ideal frame is this:

 

[59H390]

Research has shown that frame is very important for female selection and even more so for male respect.

Ideal frame is this:
View attachment 4099694

What research?

 

[jeoyw9192]

Research has shown that frame is very important for female selection and even more so for male respect.

Ideal frame is this:
View attachment 4099694

I remember this guy from Altered Carbon and yeah he has a mogger frame not too ogre like but considerably above average (mogs facially too).

But yeah it is glazed quite a bit; a frame like Loox's is uncanny and way too male gazed.

 

[amkkthelooksmaxer]

for bodybuilding or whatever sure but girls don't GAF about thisDo you mind rating me and giving me advice bro? Check my threads if you want.

 

[edodalic29]

for bodybuilding or whatever sure but girls don't GAF about this

not even for body building , bodybuilding is cope anyways

For raw primal attraction its a halo tbh . Not a necessity but indeed will help .

For psl and mogging its needed , stuff like clavicle length , skull size & facial bone mass is needed to truly be a mogger , like a true psl mogger .

 

[asdvek]

Lmao

Im gonna be honest my clavicles are like my best genetic trait

They're so wide even when I was untrained

Shout-out to my boy Eric also