Framepill is a cope

[Deleted member 11675]

Frame pill is a cope, seen many good looking guys
5+ face, 5'7+ height but with small frame still with the GFs.

Too broad of a frame on a small guy won't look good either, it will be a overkill.

Big frame will only look good on the guys above 6'2.

Framepill is a gigacope.

However, height and facepill is still legit tho, height and face matters the most, unless you have a super small frame, you can build some muscles and make it look ripped, and you will be good to go.

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

shit frame = "ugly"

a lot of people can compensate with gymcelling but some people are fucked

women care about your body (shoulder to hip, overall size) more than you care about theirs, don't believe the lies

 

[pizza]

frame is primitival fight sucess rate

 

[Deleted member 11675]

cope

let me pull up that morph

Cool

frame is primitival fight sucess rate

Ain't nobody fighting, it's illegal anyway

 

[volcelfatcel]

Frame isn't cope at all. A woman sees your face and frame when she talks to you jfl. Having good clavicles, collar bone, thick neck, wide shoulders is vital.

The Physical Attribute On Men That Helps 'Women Orgasm More Often'

The bigger the better, but not in that way...

www.womenshealth.com.au

Women want a broad shoulders man there was another study I can't find that says that they respond stronger to broad shoulders than men did to breasts.

Gigacope women want 20+ inches of frame not framelets

Read @Kingkellz thread about masculinity grey.

 

[Deleted member 6382]

Ain't nobody fighting, it's illegal anyway

Astonishing amounts of retardation

 

[Deleted member 11675]

Astonishing amounts of retardation

Lol, we are not gymmaxxing to fight

 

[Kingkellz]

Frame isn't cope at all. A woman sees your face and frame when she talks to you jfl. Having good clavicles, collar bone, thick neck, wide shoulders is vital.

The Physical Attribute On Men That Helps 'Women Orgasm More Often'

The bigger the better, but not in that way...

www.womenshealth.com.au

Women want a broad shoulders man there was another study I can't find that says that they respond stronger to broad shoulders than men did to breasts.

Gigacope women want 20+ inches of frame not framelets

Read @Kingkellz thread about masculinity grey.

 

[volcelfatcel]

shit frame = "ugly"

a lot of people can compensate with gymcelling but some people are fucked

women care about your body (shoulder to hip, overall size) more than you care about theirs, don't believe the lies

Consider this as well. Natty gymcelling will take you a while to even match an untrained guy with 20+ inches and if that untrained guy gymcels it's over for you.

Frame is intertwined with height, it's that important as a man.

 

[gamma]

Frame is more important than height (after 5'9)

It's one of the most dimorphic trait

It has been proven that women react to broad shoulders the same way men react to big tits (I can link the study if u want)

 

[Deleted member 8904]

shit thread

 

[volcelfatcel]

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Fucking brutal to all frame pill deniers. Intertwined with height as being important and a good 20+ inch frame is even rarer nowadays.

Sure people are getting taller but framelets are the norm now, 16 inch faggot pretty boys is the trend. Men will never respect if you are a framelet tbh.

 

[Deleted member 3270]

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Tbh gandys frame fits his features, after all harmony>size in certain cases

 

[volcelfatcel]

Frame is more important than height (after 5'9)

It's one of the most dimorphic trait

It has been proven that women react to broad shoulders the same way men react to big tits (I can link the study It u want)

Even stronger than big tits. Frame is a primal thing alongside face and height. I'd argue ita intertwined with height and even more important the taller you are.

Frame is vital to getting respect as a man. After 5'9 it's crucial.

 

[gamma]

The morph is right or left?

 

[Deleted member 11675]

Frame isn't cope at all. A woman sees your face and frame when she talks to you jfl. Having good clavicles, collar bone, thick neck, wide shoulders is vital.

The Physical Attribute On Men That Helps 'Women Orgasm More Often'

The bigger the better, but not in that way...

www.womenshealth.com.au

Women want a broad shoulders man there was another study I can't find that says that they respond stronger to broad shoulders than men did to breasts.

Gigacope women want 20+ inches of frame not framelets

Read @Kingkellz thread about masculinity grey.

So what is the framelet cut off?

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

Consider this as well. Natty gymcelling will take you a while to even match an untrained guy with 20+ inches and if that untrained guy gymcels it's over for you.

Frame is intertwined with height, it's that important as a man.

yeah but I think as long as you're above a certain threshold you're fine

chico for example has kind of a crappy frame but not framecel tier

 

[Deleted member 11675]

Frame is more important than height (after 5'9)

It's one of the most dimorphic trait

It has been proven that women react to broad shoulders the same way men react to big tits (I can link the study if u want)

Lol I don't even care about tits or ass, all I need is a hole.

 

[Deleted member 11675]

yeah but I think as long as you're above a certain threshold you're fine

chico for example has kind of a crappy frame but not framecel tier

What is that cutt off?

 

[volcelfatcel]

So what is the framelet cut off?

20 inches, 17-19 is the normal amount most people have. The more zoomer they are the worse frame, zoomers are getting lankier and lankier.

 

[gamma]

Lol I don't even care about tits or ass, all I need is a hole.

 

[gamma]

20 inches, 17-19 is the normal amount most people have. The more zoomer they are the worse frame, zoomers are getting lankier and lankier.

This is so true

Zoomers are very tall, 6 ft on average, but skinny

Why?? Is it related to T levels?

 

[volcelfatcel]

yeah but I think as long as you're above a certain threshold you're fine

chico for example has kind of a crappy frame but not framecel tier

Really depends sex appeal isn't rated by psl but it's extremely important. Someone like Meeks will always have far more sex appeal than someone like o'pry or Barrett.

I think 20 inches is a good cutoff, for pretty boys like chico it matters less but his frame is still undeniably shit and very noticeable.

 

[mogstar]

The morph is right or left?

Jimson has a good frame

 

[volcelfatcel]

This is so true

Zoomers are very tall, 6 ft on average, but skinny

Why?? Is it related to T levels?

At least in my school average frame is like 17 inches lol.

Men are getting taller but their fighting success is going down. Less thick eyebrows, less facial hair, less broad frames, brow ridges are rare as fuck as well.

No fucking idea about t levels but could be related

 

[Deleted member 11675]

This is so true

Zoomers are very tall, 6 ft on average, but skinny

Why?? Is it related to T levels?

Where are you seeing that dude? Most of them are still around 5'8-5'10 with normal shoulder. Zoomer foids for some reason are fall asf.

 

[gamma]

Where are you seeing that dude?

Italy

 

[Deleted member 11675]

20 inches, 17-19 is the normal amount most people have. The more zoomer they are the worse frame, zoomers are getting lankier and lankier.

Below 17= framecel?

 

[Deleted member 11675]

Italy

Do you got some photos or something? Real ones not cherry picked

 

[volcelfatcel]

Below 17= framecel?

Below 17 it's over lol. I'd argue anything below at least 18 its over.

Frame is key to sex appeal and dimorphism

 

[klamus]

Frame is the same thing as height. Gym maxxed 6'1 is always bigger than Gym maxxed 5'9

 

[Chinacurry]

This is so true

Zoomers are very tall, 6 ft on average, but skinny

Why?? Is it related to T levels?

Yes am pretty sure it's down to T, but also shit parenting zoomers get, and shit like tiktok making them get validation from foids as framelets

 

[ifyouwannabemylover]

What is that cutt off?

depends on overall proportions I guess. head size, height, etc.

just look in the mirror tbh. if you're wondering you should probably gymcel.

 

[Deleted member 11675]

Italy

"Muh 6'4 Mediterranean zoomer Chad's"
JFL

 

[Deleted member 11675]

depends on overall proportions I guess. head size, height, etc.

just look in the mirror tbh. if you're wondering you should probably gymcel.

There should be some sugery for that, gym looks too hard and too painful.

 

[gamma]

"Muh 6'4 Mediterranean zoomer Chad's"
JFL

First pic is from year 2009/2010 I can tell from their clothes

Second pic is 2011 literally 10 years ago jfl...

 

[Deleted member 11675]

First pic is from year 2009/2010 I can tell from their clothes

Second pic is 2011 literally 10 years ago jfl...
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I literally searched Italy teens/ Italian teenagers on google and this is what I got.

 

[datboijj]

Lol I don't even care about tits or ass, all I need is a hole.

thats exactly the reason why most men didn't react that much to big boobs
there are millions of men who PREFER small tits.
BUT ZERO WOMEN PREFER SMALL SHOULDERS!!!

 

[Deleted member 9666]

Below 17 it's over lol. I'd argue anything below at least 18 its over.

Frame is key to sex appeal and dimorphism

how do you measure? I think I’m doing it wrong. My brother is 6’ and I measured his deltoid at 17/18 inches. He does not look like a framecel. If I’m measuring right then 18 is far from over.

 

[volcelfatcel]

how do you measure? I think I’m doing it wrong. My brother is 6’ and I measured his deltoid at 17/18 inches. He does not look like a framecel.

Bideltoid Width is the most commonly used. Look it up on mobile rn

 

[volcelfatcel]

how do you measure? I think I’m doing it wrong. My brother is 6’ and I measured his deltoid at 17/18 inches. He does not look like a framecel. If I’m measuring right then 18 is far from over.

Also depends on proportions but generally 20 inches+ is what's good.

If he has thin waist his frame may look bigger

 

[Deleted member 11675]

thats exactly the reason why most men didn't react that much to big boobs
there are millions of men who PREFER small tits.
BUT ZERO WOMEN PREFER SMALL SHOULDERS!!!

Most foids don't care, as long as face is good, and have good height, you have already won 90% of the battle.17 inch frame minimum and you are good to go.
Frame+face+height+money+hairs+dick = almost non existent. These type of Chad's are almost non existent, they are barely 0.1% of the population.

Your coping way to much bro, let's get back the reality, it will be better for all of us here. Not everyone wants 9/10 Nordic giga Stacy's anyway.

 

[Deleted member 9666]

Bideltoid Width is the most commonly used. Look it up on mobile rn

Thats how I measured him just now. He’s barely 18inches and looks above average. Definitely not a framecel.

How can you say 17/18 is over when the average is like 16? Not sure how accurate that is but it’s the first number on google for American men.

 

[datboijj]

Most foids don't care, as long as face is good, and have good height, you have already won 90% of the battle.

difference between being indifferent and actually preferring small shoulders.
NONE OF THEM DO

Your coping way to much bro, let's get back the reality, it will be better for all of us here. Not everyone wants 9/10 Nordic giga Stacy's anyway.

I don't like white girls

 

[volcelfatcel]

Thats how I measured him just now. He’s barely 18inches and looks above average. Definitely not a framecel.

How can you say 17/18 is over when the average is like 16? Not sure how accurate that is but it’s the first number on google for American men.

Shoulder =/= bideltoid not the same.

 

[Deleted member 9666]

Shoulder =/= bideltoid not the same.

okay well that makes more sense I guess

 

[Deleted member 11675]

difference between being indifferent and actually preferring small shoulders.
NONE OF THEM DO

I don't like white girls

I don't like white girls either, like never got any erection from them, they are just overated because they dominate in the porn industry.

My favourite are Persian/ Afghan/ pashtun or whatever that race is.

 

[Deleted member 11675]

difference between being indifferent and actually preferring small shoulders.
NONE OF THEM DO

Face+ height will compensate for average frame.

 

[animo123]

shit frame = "ugly"

a lot of people can compensate with gymcelling but some people are fucked

women care about your body (shoulder to hip, overall size) more than you care about theirs, don't believe the lies

lifefuel lol im 21 inches untrained lol

 

[Deleted member 10330]

Paul dillet frame or OVER