Free Willcels are so retard OMFG

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Just had a FUCKING 4 hour debate with my brother on it

how can you believe free will exist

how can you be this dumb

but muh god and muh I chooooosseeeeeeeseseee to talk to you

No logic nothing fucking idiot
 
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free will is an illusion, every “choice” u think ur making is predetermined from before your even born
 
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free will is an illusion, every “choice” u think ur making is predetermined from before your even born
That’s retarded, if you know your wife is gonna cheat on you that doesn’t mean she still didn’t make the decision. If God created this universe, then 100% there’s at least one point in our lives where the situation is fully 50/50 and that is where the weight of our soul is determined.
 
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That’s retarded, if you know your wife is gonna cheat on you that doesn’t mean she still didn’t make the decision. If God created this universe, then 100% there’s at least one point in our lives where the situation is fully 50/50 and that is where the weight of our soul is determined.
everything is already fated to happen, you can’t change ur destiny, the “choices” you are given have been chosen for you, u just think you are allowed to choose
 
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free will is an illusion, every “choice” u think ur making is predetermined from before your even born
i love to cope from time to time
 
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i love to cope from time to time
u can call it cope but everything that is fated to happen will happen, everyone has a destiny that they follow whether they know it or not, your life is determined before you even existed
 
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u can call it cope but everything that is fated to happen will happen, everyone has a destiny that they follow whether they know it or not, your life is determined before you even existed
ikr
it’s just so soul crushing to think about it even though i agree 100%
so i just cope sometimes
 
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everything is already fated to happen, you can’t change ur destiny, the “choices” you are given have been chosen for you, u just think you are allowed to choose
Even if the results of our choices are already known, that doesn’t change our internal process that leads to that decision. There is inherent randomness in what decisions we make, and if the fact that “something” will happen and always will have had happened is all it takes for you to believe that then just kill yourself right now like you always would’ve.
 
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ikr
it’s just so soul crushing to think about it even though i agree 100%
so i just cope sometimes
only thing u can do is hope ur fate includes happiness and a good life
 
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i stand for combatibilism in this
 
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Even if the results of our choices are already known, that doesn’t change our internal process that leads to that decision. There is inherent randomness in what decisions we make, and if the fact that “something” will happen and always will have had happened is all it takes for you to believe that then just kill yourself right now like you always would’ve.
ur choices and the process leading up to it have all been fated and predetermined, you think your changing something when you decide to do something unusual, but it’s part of your destiny and has been already willed to happen
 
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i stand for combatibilism in this
you cant even spell it right

Compatibilism is one of the most retarded philosphies ever

Watch o conners video about it

he puts it very well
 
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Scientifically speaking our brains operate through neurons that react to stimuli signals are received and processed at incredible speed far beyond our conscious control


From a more spiritual or metaphysical perspective existence itself can only fall into two categories:

things that are caused and things that occur randomly like quantum events

Our will follows the same principle every decision is either caused by something or it may be in some situations random and in neither case can it be truly free

I believe in a high psr which means that most things are predetermined

Our will is always predetermined by something else
 
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ur choices and the process leading up to it have all been fated and predetermined, you think your changing something when you decide to do something unusual, but it’s part of your destiny and has been already willed to happen
Okay but you’re speaking as if destiny is something tangible, or that anybody can predict what their future holds and what decisions other people will make that impact their life. If anything it’s just relinquishing control and allowing some abstract concept to make you give up your internal locus of control. I don’t see how you can just ignore your own willpower, and the fact that you decrease it by reading shit about how powerless and cucked you are.
 
you cant even spell it right

Compatibilism is one of the most retarded philosphies ever

Watch o conners video about it

he puts it very well

how so? our actions are determined by causality but within causality we can choose different options
 
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Okay but you’re speaking as if destiny is something tangible, or that anybody can predict what their future holds and what decisions other people will make that impact their life. If anything it’s just relinquishing control and allowing some abstract concept to make you give up your internal locus of control. I don’t see how you can just ignore your own willpower, and the fact that you decrease it by reading shit about how powerless and cucked you are.
If everything is fated and predetermined, it’s not about giving up willpower. it’s recognizing that even your willpower, your resistance, your thoughts, and your rebellion are part of the script. Just like gravity doesn’t ask for permission, cause and effect ripple through every action, thought, and decision rooted in genetics, environment, history, and chance. You feel like you’re choosing, but your choices are shaped by things you didn’t choose. Free will feels real, but it may be an illusion emerging from a deeply deterministic universe. Denying fate is just what you were always going to do.
 
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Scientifically speaking our brains operate through neurons that react to stimuli signals are received and processed at incredible speed far beyond our conscious control


From a more spiritual or metaphysical perspective existence itself can only fall into two categories:

things that are caused and things that occur randomly like quantum events

Our will follows the same principle every decision is either caused by something or it may be in some situations random and in neither case can it be truly free

I believe in a high psr which means that most things are predetermined

Our will is always predetermined by something else
So are you some kind of idealist that believes in a higher will or spirit that represents the whole humanity as advances or are you more inclined to something like the collective unconscious?

I don't think you are wrong or right as I can't prove it but I like to think there are different ways to interpret the phenomena we experience and this results in debates like this and we don't really know the truth.
 
you cant even spell it right

Compatibilism is one of the most retarded philosphies ever

Watch o conners video about it

he puts it very well

also jfl at sending some bullshit instead of explaining it yourself
 
u can call it cope but everything that is fated to happen will happen, everyone has a destiny that they follow whether they know it or not, your life is determined before you even existed
retarded fatalism
 
Scientifically speaking our brains operate through neurons that react to stimuli signals are received and processed at incredible speed far beyond our conscious control


From a more spiritual or metaphysical perspective existence itself can only fall into two categories:

things that are caused and things that occur randomly like quantum events

Our will follows the same principle every decision is either caused by something or it may be in some situations random and in neither case can it be truly free

I believe in a high psr which means that most things are predetermined

Our will is always predetermined by something else
My neurons are me. Therefore, what they do is my will
 

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