Friendships Rarely Exist: Sabotage and the Suppression of Progress

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Friendships involve taking pride in someone progressing in life. Now, for many of the people you have met, there has been plenty of people that were pleased by their company. So, we think that they must have many friends, right?

But there is a hole in this reasoning: taking pleasure in the company of someone does not mean that we will take pride in them progressing in life.

For example, people might take pleasure in the company of someone for reasons of schadenfreude, but when they improve in that respect this pleasure is lost. Jestermaxxers are familiar with this.

This shows the problems with the normal point of view. But it is even worse than that.

In fact, improving is everywhere fought against, and sabotage is very common from people in your company.

For instance, even family members and friends rise up against fat people who lower in weight. This is a very interesting phenomenon and is common among obese people losing weight.


This subject is a rabbit hole that is fun looking into. You can find hundreds of threads like this.

Another interesting example is the uprising against gingers who dye their hair. See this video for example:

"I believe gingers should never dye their hair" JFL
This can be seen in every reddit thread on gingers who want to dye their hair. People get VERY mad at them. Check out this thread:
"i have experimented with semi-perm brown dye in the past. But unfortunately met with a response of hatred as i’m known as ginger throughout my circle"
"can confirm this is true"
JFL these are the people you guys are considering as friends.

For another example, consider what happens when someone in a circle of friends gets an opportunity with a girl that's mutually known throughout the circle. People will not only attempt from all sides to demotivate you from going for her, talking down on her and telling fake stories, but as soon as you turn your back they will pathetically attempt to swoop in and get her. Even more embarrassing is their complete lack of self-awareness when a few months down the road they act confused on why you didn't pursue her JFL.

For the above I don't even need explicit examples, if you've been part of a friend group you know that it can get easily destabilized when the slightest chance of pussy shoots past it.

For another example, consider how much people hate looksmaxxers who've ascended. Look at Pneumo in this thread:
Absolutely pathetic behavior from his "friends" JFL. I'm sure many people here have experienced similar things. I remember on instagram going from a black profile pic to a nice one after looksmaxxing and getting many comments from friends (and even some family) on how it was gay and how I should change it back. Meanwhile a week or two later a girl hit me up just because of that profile pic (since I had no other pics on my insta).

This is an interesting example for those of you in university: as I became more successful academically, and was about to finish my degree, my friends who never went to university and lacked a plan for a job became more and more angry at me (and other people in uni in the group) until they completely crashed out. I'm interested if anybody here has had anything similar happen to them.

I have also had people try to mislead me with regard to how valuable different internship opportunities were, so I would pick the worse one. If I would have listened to that "friend," and not gotten more advice, my life could have been screwed.

These people you consider friends attempt from all sides to stop you from growing and improving. To stifle your social growth, to stifle your intellectual growth, and to keep your appearance from improving. They try to either demotivate, or shame and trick you, or make you not trust your own judgment. The people you call friends largely fall into these categories.

Thus, friends basically don't exist in the initial sense of this thread. You are surrounded by people who will sabotage you if they can. But the fear of this sabotage holds you back.

For these reasons: our "friends" are often our greatest enemies.
 
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Friendships involve taking pride in someone progressing in life. Now, for many of the people you have met, there has been plenty of people that were pleased by their company. So, we think that they must have many friends, right?

But there is a hole in this reasoning: taking pleasure in the company of someone does not mean that we will take pride in them progressing in life.

For example, people might take pleasure in the company of someone for reasons of schadenfreude, but when they improve in that respect this pleasure is lost. Jestermaxxers are familiar with this.

This shows the problems with the normal point of view. But it is even worse than that.

In fact, improving is everywhere fought against, and sabotage is very common from people in your company.

For instance, even family members and friends rise up against fat people who lower in weight. This is a very interesting phenomenon and is common among obese people losing weight.


This subject is a rabbit hole that is fun looking into. You can find hundreds of threads like this.

Another interesting example is the uprising against gingers who dye their hair. See this video for example:

"I believe gingers should never dye their hair" JFL
This can be seen in every reddit thread on gingers who want to dye their hair. People get VERY mad at them. Check out this thread:
"i have experimented with semi-perm brown dye in the past. But unfortunately met with a response of hatred as i’m known as ginger throughout my circle"
"can confirm this is true"
JFL these are the people you guys are considering as friends.

For another example, consider what happens when someone in a circle of friends gets an opportunity with a girl that's mutually known throughout the circle. People will not only attempt from all sides to demotivate you from going for her, talking down on her and telling fake stories, but as soon as you turn your back they will pathetically attempt to swoop in and get her. Even more embarrassing is their complete lack of self-awareness when a few months down the road they act confused on why you didn't pursue her JFL.

For the above I don't even need explicit examples, if you've been part of a friend group you know that it can get easily destabilized when the slightest chance of pussy shoots past it.

For another example, consider how much people hate looksmaxxers who've ascended. Look at Pneumo in this thread:
Absolutely pathetic behavior from his "friends" JFL. I'm sure many people here have experienced similar things. I remember on instagram going from a black profile pic to a nice one after looksmaxxing and getting many comments from friends (and even some family) on how it was gay and how I should change it back. Meanwhile a week or two later a girl hit me up just because of that profile pic (since I had no other pics on my insta).

This is an interesting example for those of you in university: as I became more successful academically, and was about to finish my degree, my friends who never went to university and lacked a plan for a job became more and more angry at me (and other people in uni in the group) until they completely crashed out. I'm interested if anybody here has had anything similar happen to them.

I have also had people try to mislead me with regard to how valuable different internship opportunities were, so I would pick the worse one. If I would have listened to that "friend," and not gotten more advice, my life could have been screwed.

These people you consider friends attempt from all sides to stop you from growing and improving. To stifle your social growth, to stifle your intellectual growth, and to keep your appearance from improving. They try to either demotivate, or shame and trick you, or make you not trust your own judgment. The people you call friends largely fall into these categories.

Thus, friends basically don't exist in the initial sense of this thread. You are surrounded by people who will sabotage you if they can. But the fear of this sabotage holds you back.

For these reasons: our "friends" are often our greatest enemies.

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Friendships involve taking pride in someone progressing in life. Now, for many of the people you have met, there has been plenty of people that were pleased by their company. So, we think that they must have many friends, right?

But there is a hole in this reasoning: taking pleasure in the company of someone does not mean that we will take pride in them progressing in life.

For example, people might take pleasure in the company of someone for reasons of schadenfreude, but when they improve in that respect this pleasure is lost. Jestermaxxers are familiar with this.

This shows the problems with the normal point of view. But it is even worse than that.

In fact, improving is everywhere fought against, and sabotage is very common from people in your company.

For instance, even family members and friends rise up against fat people who lower in weight. This is a very interesting phenomenon and is common among obese people losing weight.


This subject is a rabbit hole that is fun looking into. You can find hundreds of threads like this.

Another interesting example is the uprising against gingers who dye their hair. See this video for example:

"I believe gingers should never dye their hair" JFL
This can be seen in every reddit thread on gingers who want to dye their hair. People get VERY mad at them. Check out this thread:
"i have experimented with semi-perm brown dye in the past. But unfortunately met with a response of hatred as i’m known as ginger throughout my circle"
"can confirm this is true"
JFL these are the people you guys are considering as friends.

For another example, consider what happens when someone in a circle of friends gets an opportunity with a girl that's mutually known throughout the circle. People will not only attempt from all sides to demotivate you from going for her, talking down on her and telling fake stories, but as soon as you turn your back they will pathetically attempt to swoop in and get her. Even more embarrassing is their complete lack of self-awareness when a few months down the road they act confused on why you didn't pursue her JFL.

For the above I don't even need explicit examples, if you've been part of a friend group you know that it can get easily destabilized when the slightest chance of pussy shoots past it.

For another example, consider how much people hate looksmaxxers who've ascended. Look at Pneumo in this thread:
Absolutely pathetic behavior from his "friends" JFL. I'm sure many people here have experienced similar things. I remember on instagram going from a black profile pic to a nice one after looksmaxxing and getting many comments from friends (and even some family) on how it was gay and how I should change it back. Meanwhile a week or two later a girl hit me up just because of that profile pic (since I had no other pics on my insta).

This is an interesting example for those of you in university: as I became more successful academically, and was about to finish my degree, my friends who never went to university and lacked a plan for a job became more and more angry at me (and other people in uni in the group) until they completely crashed out. I'm interested if anybody here has had anything similar happen to them.

I have also had people try to mislead me with regard to how valuable different internship opportunities were, so I would pick the worse one. If I would have listened to that "friend," and not gotten more advice, my life could have been screwed.

These people you consider friends attempt from all sides to stop you from growing and improving. To stifle your social growth, to stifle your intellectual growth, and to keep your appearance from improving. They try to either demotivate, or shame and trick you, or make you not trust your own judgment. The people you call friends largely fall into these categories.

Thus, friends basically don't exist in the initial sense of this thread. You are surrounded by people who will sabotage you if they can. But the fear of this sabotage holds you back.

For these reasons: our "friends" are often our greatest enemies.

Intresting so is helping your friends ascend and get thier crush that was into You at Frist is good or not?
 

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