FULL ASCENSION PROTOCOL/FUTURE PROTOCOL (HIGH IQCELLS GTFIH)

[shortcell29]

(first real thread, dont hate)

I wanna stop being stuck in ltn hell so here is what I will be doing over the next couple months. Up untill now its been mostly just gymcelling and i cut once from 25% bf to like 18% and thats it, started everything else in the last 2/3 weeks or yet to start.

STATS

A: 17 (late bloomer though, squeaky voice, 6 incher and barely any hair on my face)
H: 5'7 barefoot, W: 145lbs/65kg, BF:18-20%

SOFTMAXXING

Brows and lashes: topical minox, ordinary lash serum, potentially bimatoprost (latisse)
Supps: Omega 3s 1.1g a day, Magnesium bisglycinate 250mg 1hr be4 sleep
Teeth: Crest whitening strips
Skin/bodyfat: Clean diet in a deficit to get to sub 14%, regular skincare + adapalene as i only have 1/2 breakouts at most at the same time, the bigger thing making my skin shit is the acne marks from old acne i got rid off. (bb cream helps tho)
Accutane: If skin gets bad on cycle, will go to my derm and ask for it, but not needed for face rn
Gymcelling: ANT/POS 4-6x a week (sbl ofc but not gonna write my whole program here, been doing this shi for 2.5 years i know what im doing)
Height: Sleeping 8h+, height boosters to reach 5'9-5'10 in shoes
Coloring: tan in the sun with spf, gonna take longer but idc its healthier

CYCLE (not before july cuz im broke)

Test: enanthate 500/mg a week, pinning twice a week
Anastrozole: build up from 0.5mg weekly to 3.5mg, depends on my bloodwork and estrogen
NAC: 600mg daily
HCG: 100-250IU ed even while on cycle so my balls dont shrink or maybe start a month before end
PCT (Nolvadex): 20mg daily (6 weeks)
HGH (not sure yet): would do 6iu ed but its so expensive, need to buy way more syringes cuz its daily, bac water, mini fridge (would have to spend most of my wage basically)
MK677: If not HGH cuz of price, maybe get this, cheaper and if it would help a noticable amount after like 6 months I would do it, even if it just boosts my natural hgh cuz HGH would shut off my production totally and this wouldnt​

 

[слон]

17 (late bloomer though, squeaky voice

 

[NorPSL]

rethink

 

[Niebvll]

HIGHICELLS GTFIH

 

[m6debiney]

dnr

 

[shortcell29]

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late bloomer is real no matter what anyone says lol, theres people who get 3+ inches after 17, and i got pubes like 2/3 years after my friends

 

[femoidannihilator]

(first real thread, dont hate)

I wanna stop being stuck in ltn hell so here is what I will be doing over the next couple months. Up untill now its been mostly just gymcelling and i cut once from 25% bf to like 18% and thats it, started everything else in the last 2/3 weeks or yet to start.

STATS

A: 17 (late bloomer though, squeaky voice, 6 incher and barely any hair on my face)
H: 5'7 barefoot, W: 145lbs/65kg, BF:18-20%

SOFTMAXXING

Brows and lashes: topical minox, ordinary lash serum, potentially bimatoprost (latisse)
Supps: Omega 3s 1.1g a day, Magnesium bisglycinate 250mg 1hr be4 sleep
Teeth: Crest whitening strips
Skin/bodyfat: Clean diet in a deficit to get to sub 14%, regular skincare + adapalene as i only have 1/2 breakouts at most at the same time, the bigger thing making my skin shit is the acne marks from old acne i got rid off. (bb cream helps tho)
Accutane: If skin gets bad on cycle, will go to my derm and ask for it, but not needed for face rn
Gymcelling: ANT/POS 4-6x a week (sbl ofc but not gonna write my whole program here, been doing this shi for 2.5 years i know what im doing)
Height: Sleeping 8h+, height boosters to reach 5'9-5'10 in shoes
Coloring: tan in the sun with spf, gonna take longer but idc its healthier

CYCLE (not before july cuz im broke)

Test: enanthate 500/mg a week, pinning twice a week
Anastrozole: build up from 0.5mg weekly to 3.5mg, depends on my bloodwork and estrogen
NAC: 600mg daily
HCG: 100-250IU ed even while on cycle so my balls dont shrink or maybe start a month before end
PCT (Nolvadex): 20mg daily (6 weeks)
HGH (not sure yet): would do 6iu ed but its so expensive, need to buy way more syringes cuz its daily, bac water, mini fridge (would have to spend most of my wage basically)
MK677: If not HGH cuz of price, maybe get this, cheaper and if it would help a noticable amount after like 6 months I would do it, even if it just boosts my natural hgh cuz HGH would shut off my production totally and this wouldnt​

not bad im still deciding dosing for test, planning 600/mg a weekbut for you it might be too late, just start 3 years earlier brah

 

[femoidannihilator]

late bloomer is real no matter what anyone says lol, theres people who get 3+ inches after 17, and i got pubes like 2/3 years after my friends

most people who say they are late bloomers are just coping tho

 

[fraudster#1]

CYCLE (not before july cuz im broke)

Test: enanthate 500/mg a week, pinning twice a week
Anastrozole: build up from 0.5mg weekly to 3.5mg, depends on my bloodwork and estrogen
NAC: 600mg daily
HCG: 100-250IU ed even while on cycle so my balls dont shrink or maybe start a month before end
PCT (Nolvadex): 20mg daily (6 weeks)
HGH (not sure yet): would do 6iu ed but its so expensive, need to buy way more syringes cuz its daily, bac water, mini fridge (would have to spend most of my wage basically)
MK677: If not HGH cuz of price, maybe get this, cheaper and if it would help a noticable amount after like 6 months I would do it, even if it just boosts my natural hgh cuz HGH would shut off my production totally and this wouldnt​

omg, how many times we need to say that's PCT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!
just blast & Cruise bro
nac is not needed, you dont even have any thing toxic in the stack

 

[shortcell29]

most people who say they are late bloomers are just coping tho

i really dont think I am, being able to cum like 2/3 years after everyone around me is there any other explanation? im also still growing, was 5’5 like a year ago

 

[femoidannihilator]

omg, how many times we need to say that's PCT IS FUCKING BULLSHIT!!
just blast & Cruise bro
nac is not needed, you dont even have any thing toxic in the stack

what if you want to have kids or live past 30 brah

 

[Niebvll]

STATS

A: 17 (late bloomer though, squeaky voice, 6 incher and barely any hair on my face)

H: 5'7 barefoot, W: 145lbs/65kg, BF:18-20%
​

just become a femboy bro youre already a twink

SOFTMAXXING

Brows and lashes: topical minox, ordinary lash serum, potentially bimatoprost (latisse)​

latisse mogs

Supps: Omega 3s 1.1g a day, Magnesium bisglycinate 250mg 1hr be4 sleep
Teeth: Crest whitening strips
Skin/bodyfat: Clean diet in a deficit to get to sub 14%, regular skincare + adapalene as i only have 1/2 breakouts at most at the same time, the bigger thing making my skin shit is the acne marks from old acne i got rid off. (bb cream helps tho)​

Height: Sleeping 8h+, height boosters to reach 5'9-5'10 in shoes

youre not growing any taller at 17 bro except
most plates already close mid 16
even if theyre still slightly open sleeping really wont change anything atp but height boosters are good

Coloring: tan in the sun with spf, gonna take longer but idc its healthier​

mt?

CYCLE (not before july cuz im broke)

Test: enanthate 500/mg a week, pinning twice a week​

twice a week

PCT (Nolvadex): 20mg daily (6 weeks)​

lowk unnecessary if youre broke

HGH (not sure yet): would do 6iu ed but its so expensive, need to buy way more syringes cuz its daily, bac water, mini fridge (would have to spend most of my wage basically)​

1 you dont need bac water
2 what for??? its not gonna make you taller and theres far better stuff for gains

MK677: If not HGH cuz of price, maybe get this, cheaper and if it would help a noticable amount after like 6 months I would do it, even if it just boosts my natural hgh cuz HGH would shut off my production totally and this wouldnt​

retarded
will only result in 1-3iu which is less than you produce naturally
also a gh secretagogue so will also shut down your natural production or atleast lower it so the end result is the same amount
also gonna make you fat
whats wrong about hgh shutting of your natural production?? you replace it with pinned gh anyways and it recovers in less than 24h

 

[infrainfra]

(first real thread, dont hate)

I wanna stop being stuck in ltn hell so here is what I will be doing over the next couple months. Up untill now its been mostly just gymcelling and i cut once from 25% bf to like 18% and thats it, started everything else in the last 2/3 weeks or yet to start.

STATS

A: 17 (late bloomer though, squeaky voice, 6 incher and barely any hair on my face)
H: 5'7 barefoot, W: 145lbs/65kg, BF:18-20%

SOFTMAXXING

Brows and lashes: topical minox, ordinary lash serum, potentially bimatoprost (latisse)
Supps: Omega 3s 1.1g a day, Magnesium bisglycinate 250mg 1hr be4 sleep
Teeth: Crest whitening strips
Skin/bodyfat: Clean diet in a deficit to get to sub 14%, regular skincare + adapalene as i only have 1/2 breakouts at most at the same time, the bigger thing making my skin shit is the acne marks from old acne i got rid off. (bb cream helps tho)
Accutane: If skin gets bad on cycle, will go to my derm and ask for it, but not needed for face rn
Gymcelling: ANT/POS 4-6x a week (sbl ofc but not gonna write my whole program here, been doing this shi for 2.5 years i know what im doing)
Height: Sleeping 8h+, height boosters to reach 5'9-5'10 in shoes
Coloring: tan in the sun with spf, gonna take longer but idc its healthier

CYCLE (not before july cuz im broke)

Test: enanthate 500/mg a week, pinning twice a week
Anastrozole: build up from 0.5mg weekly to 3.5mg, depends on my bloodwork and estrogen
NAC: 600mg daily
HCG: 100-250IU ed even while on cycle so my balls dont shrink or maybe start a month before end
PCT (Nolvadex): 20mg daily (6 weeks)
HGH (not sure yet): would do 6iu ed but its so expensive, need to buy way more syringes cuz its daily, bac water, mini fridge (would have to spend most of my wage basically)
MK677: If not HGH cuz of price, maybe get this, cheaper and if it would help a noticable amount after like 6 months I would do it, even if it just boosts my natural hgh cuz HGH would shut off my production totally and this wouldnt​

woowww 500 test and such a low dose of ais? just speeds up growth plate closure. a no test base stack is meta normies wont understand it unfortunately. just do NAAS if u want dimorphism.

 

[fraudster#1]

what if you want to have kids or live past 30 brah

do you really think test is going to kill you at this dosage?

 

[Niebvll]

late bloomer is real no matter what anyone says lol, theres people who get 3+ inches after 17

1-2% of people literally

and i got pubes like 2/3 years after my friends

interesting

 

[Niebvll]

woowww 500 test and such a low dose of ais?

i mean he said the dose depends on his bloodwork so he'll prob get crazy e2 only on his first week test ev&doe anast and then change it

just speeds up growth plate closure..

99% chance theyre alr closed anyways

just do NAAS if u want dimorphism.

 

[shortcell29]

just become a femboy bro youre already a twink

latisse mogs



youre not growing any taller at 17 bro except
most plates already close mid 16
even if theyre still slightly open sleeping really wont change anything atp but height boosters are good

mt?

twice a week

lowk unnecessary if youre broke

1 you dont need bac water
2 what for??? its not gonna make you taller and theres far better stuff for gains

retarded
will only result in 1-3iu which is less than you produce naturally
also a gh secretagogue so will also shut down your natural production or atleast lower it so the end result is the same amount
also gonna make you fat
whats wrong about hgh shutting of your natural production?? you replace it with pinned gh anyways and it recovers in less than 24h

Im not rly pale and i tan easily so dont wanna spend money on mt, twice a week to save syringe money lmao, ty for the other stuff though, grew 2 inches in the past year tho so i wouldnt say mine are closed, im 17 and 6 months too

 

[Niebvll]

twice a week to save syringe money lmao

SON

ty for the other stuff though

 

[austrianpsycho]

i mean he said the dose depends on his bloodwork so he'll prob get crazy e2 only on his first week test ev&doe anast and then change it


99% chance theyre alr closed anyways

warum machst du dir überhaupt die mühe mit dem zu reden

 

[austrianpsycho]

(first real thread, dont hate)

I wanna stop being stuck in ltn hell so here is what I will be doing over the next couple months. Up untill now its been mostly just gymcelling and i cut once from 25% bf to like 18% and thats it, started everything else in the last 2/3 weeks or yet to start.

STATS

A: 17 (late bloomer though, squeaky voice, 6 incher and barely any hair on my face)
H: 5'7 barefoot, W: 145lbs/65kg, BF:18-20%

SOFTMAXXING

Brows and lashes: topical minox, ordinary lash serum, potentially bimatoprost (latisse)
Supps: Omega 3s 1.1g a day, Magnesium bisglycinate 250mg 1hr be4 sleep
Teeth: Crest whitening strips
Skin/bodyfat: Clean diet in a deficit to get to sub 14%, regular skincare + adapalene as i only have 1/2 breakouts at most at the same time, the bigger thing making my skin shit is the acne marks from old acne i got rid off. (bb cream helps tho)
Accutane: If skin gets bad on cycle, will go to my derm and ask for it, but not needed for face rn
Gymcelling: ANT/POS 4-6x a week (sbl ofc but not gonna write my whole program here, been doing this shi for 2.5 years i know what im doing)
Height: Sleeping 8h+, height boosters to reach 5'9-5'10 in shoes
Coloring: tan in the sun with spf, gonna take longer but idc its healthier

CYCLE (not before july cuz im broke)

Test: enanthate 500/mg a week, pinning twice a week
Anastrozole: build up from 0.5mg weekly to 3.5mg, depends on my bloodwork and estrogen
NAC: 600mg daily
HCG: 100-250IU ed even while on cycle so my balls dont shrink or maybe start a month before end
PCT (Nolvadex): 20mg daily (6 weeks)
HGH (not sure yet): would do 6iu ed but its so expensive, need to buy way more syringes cuz its daily, bac water, mini fridge (would have to spend most of my wage basically)
MK677: If not HGH cuz of price, maybe get this, cheaper and if it would help a noticable amount after like 6 months I would do it, even if it just boosts my natural hgh cuz HGH would shut off my production totally and this wouldnt​

hey op so are your clinically retarded?

why would you want to run 500test with open plates
muc love from new delhi and tel-aviv jaffa

 

[Niebvll]

warum machst du dir überhaupt die mühe mit dem zu reden

postfarm
oder meinst du op

hey op so are your clinically retarded?

why would you want to run 500test with open plates
muc love from new delhi and tel-aviv jaffa

plates not open anyways but real lmao

 

[infrainfra]

i mean he said the dose depends on his bloodwork so he'll prob get crazy e2 only on his first week test ev&doe anast and then change it

no reason for test in cycle in puberty. i know that sounds weird for normies but its actually true. microdose 5mg only for cognitive decline. just run NAAS. he hasnt done his own research and will regret it sooner or later

 

[austrianpsycho]

postfarm
oder meinst du op



plates not open anyways but real lmao

dich und checke



why would he mention being a late bloomer if his plates are closed
also 6iu is geneunlly retarded with closed plates

 

[shortcell29]

dich und checke



why would he mention being a late bloomer if his plates are closed
also 6iu is geneunlly retarded with closed plates

my plates are open but im so not gonna go get an xray just to prove someone here wrong, if i come back to this thread in 6 months i will be taller for sure

 

[shortcell29]

i would do it mostly

no reason for test in cycle in puberty. i know that sounds weird for normies but its actually true. microdose 5mg only for cognitive decline. just run NAAS. he hasnt done his own research and will regret it sooner or later

for physique halo, dont expect it to make me taller or wtv lol im a gymcell too i wanna be big

 

[austrianpsycho]

my plates are open but im so not gonna go get an xray just to prove someone here wrong, if i come back to this thread in 6 months i will be taller for sure

dosent change my point buddy boyo
why would you run 500test with open plates

 

[femoidannihilator]

no reason for test in cycle in puberty. i know that sounds weird for normies but its actually true. microdose 5mg only for cognitive decline. just run NAAS. he hasnt done his own research and will regret it sooner or later

what like halo?

 

[femoidannihilator]

whats wrong with it if he is running ai's alongside it

dosent change my point buddy boyo
why would you run 500test with open plates

 

[Niebvll]

no reason for test in cycle in puberty. i know that sounds weird for normies but its actually true. microdose 5mg only for cognitive decline. just run NAAS. he hasnt done his own research and will regret it sooner or later

For what reason

Doubt this hard

 

[infrainfra]

i would do it mostly

for physique halo, dont expect it to make me taller or wtv lol im a gymcell too i wanna be big

your goal should be height if ur plates are open

 

[Niebvll]

whats wrong with it if he is running ai's alongside it

Ai has very limited effects to plate localized aromatisation

 

[austrianpsycho]

whats wrong with it if he is running ai's alongside it

your hormones dont work like you want them to work
your e2 dosent work equaly thorugh aromatisation you might take the same dose for 1month and have normal e2 levels for 3weeks than have an insane e2 spike/drop for one week

 

[combatingNorwooding]

late bloomer is real no matter what anyone says lol, theres people who get 3+ inches after 17, and i got pubes like 2/3 years after my friends

Still very unlikely you are a late bloomer. You are probably just low T

 

[combatingNorwooding]

my plates are open but im so not gonna go get an xray just to prove someone here wrong, if i come back to this thread in 6 months i will be taller for sure

It’s not for us lol. Go check for yourself

 

[Acquiescence]

Are you ltn craniofacially or just because high bf%?

 

[infrainfra]

For what reason

Doubt this hard

first ais never work a 100% meaning you can never achieve nearly 0pg of estrogen EVER. the whole concept about heightmaxxing is nuking e2 and up regulating all growth pathways. so what is the test going to do? make it harder to dose ai and eventually cause more e2 or not do a change in e2 whatsoever. NAAS that have been used for height in the past are key. just run them and maybe dht gel if u want and you will end up having even more androgenic activity without all the unnecessary test. what am i even talking about? halo,tren,mast are literally super potent androgens so your 100% chilling

 

[shortcell29]

Are you ltn craniofacially or just because high bf%?

would say skin and bf, solid forward growth, recessed browridge and infras and some uee, but thats about it

 

[shortcell29]

your goal should be height if ur plates are open

how does that affect my protocol, if i get an xray and theyre open, do i not hop on?

 

[Acquiescence]

would say skin and bf, solid forward growth, recessed browridge and infras and some uee, but thats about it

Okay then fixing skin and leanmaxxing should ascend

 

[infrainfra]

how does that affect my protocol, if i get an xray and theyre open, do i not hop on?

you should absolutely NUKE estrogen to ZEROO. ais + fulvestrant for that. and run hgh and androgens with no test base. do your own research

 

[Niebvll]

first ais never work a 100% meaning you can never achieve nearly 0pg of estrogen EVER.

noone wants 0pg tf?
and im aware

the whole concept about heightmaxxing is nuking e2 and up regulating all growth pathways.

who was talking about heightmaxxing????

so what is the test going to do? make it harder to dose ai and eventually cause more e2 or not do a change in e2 whatsoever.

bro this is about gains

NAAS that have been used for height in the past are key. just run them and maybe dht gel if u want and you will end up having even more androgenic activity without all the unnecessary test. what am i even talking about?

Bro you COMPLETELY missed the point

halo,tren,mast are literally super potent androgens so your 100% chilling

halo

holy highiq larp 0 arguments against test

 

[shortcell29]

you should absolutely NUKE estrogen to ZEROO. ais + fulvestrant for that. and run hgh and androgens with no test base. do your own research

hgh was always an option just money wise a tuff thing, but ig without test its doable, still do 6IU ed for 6 months?

 

[Niebvll]

how does that affect my protocol, if i get an xray and theyre open, do i not hop on?

you shouldnt hop on test then but on other stuff
also not just muh hgh and ai but most other things are gonna cost a lot + hard to source

 

[Niebvll]

hgh was always an option just money wise a tuff thing, but ig without test its doable, still do 6IU ed for 6 months?

genuinely wont give you anything more than 1cm atr that dose but imo thats alr worth it

 

[shortcell29]

genuinely wont give you anything more than 1cm atr that dose but imo thats alr worth it

idk im js stuck in a hard loop, cuz i genuinely do think i can still grow a decent amount without roids but, what if i could get barely anything and then i regret not hopping on shit u cant even know

 

[Niebvll]

what if i could get barely anything

get plates checked.

and then i regret not hopping on shit u cant even know

you can always roid
you can only gain height in a limited timeframe

 

[KB_maxxer]

late bloomer is real no matter what anyone says lol, theres people who get 3+ inches after 17, and i got pubes like 2/3 years after my friends

did uou grow recelty? im 18 and last 3 months i grew 2.8cm

 

[infrainfra]

noone wants 0pg tf?
and im aware

who was talking about heightmaxxing????

bro this is about gains

Bro you COMPLETELY missed the point

halo

holy highiq larp 0 arguments against test

nigga in the thread mentioned being a manlet so i thought hes smart enough to focus on height instead of “muh gym tho”
if he wants gains nigga let him run whatever.

the reason dor no test is that it will increase estrogen levels unnecessarily and all its advantages are complemented with NAAS and androgens. like nigga okay if u want to be a short manlet but jacked run wtv.

and whats wrong with halo? nigga its literally been used to treat ISS in the past.

 

[BR32]

pin every day

 

[austrianpsycho]

get plates checked.

you can always roid
you can only gain height in a limited timeframe

running 6iu gh while not knowing if your plates are open=high iq