FULL GUIDE TO ACCURATELY CALCULATING YOUR SMV

[Pickletoil]

Factors that determine your SMV from most to least important:
1-Face
2-Race
3-Height
4-Frame/physique
4 (tied)-ND/NT

How to calculate it:

STEP 1: Get your face rating, you can do this using attractiveness charts, getting a rating from someone who knows how to rate, or rating yourself (triple digit IQ required for this)

STEP 2: Apply race tax (this is in western countries, in Asian countries for example being black is worse than being Asian and maybe even Indian)

White: +0
Latino:-0.5
Black: Ranges from -0.5 to -2 depending on skin tone

Light skin -0.5

Mocha skin tone: -0.75

Dark skin: -1

Vantablack east african: -2

Now moving on to other races

East Asian: -1.25

Indian: -1 to -2 depending on skin tone like blacks, on average -1.5

South Asian (Asian with brown skin): -1.5

STEP 3: FACTOR IN HEIGHT

Assuming average of 5'11 (Gen z western countries), if average height where you are is 5'9 for example then subtract 2 inches from the following list and go by that:

5'4: -4
5'5: -3
5'6 (average female height): -2
5'7:-1.5
5'8: -1
5'9: -0.66
5'10: -0.33
5'11: +0
6': +0.25
6'1: +0.5
6'2: +0.75
6'3: +1
6'4: +1.25
6'5: +1.25
6'6: +1.5
6'7: +1.5
6'8: +1.25
6'9: +1


STEP 4: FRAME/PHYSIQUE

FRAME:

Narrow shoulders: -0.25
Average: 0
Wide shoulders : +0.25

BODY TYPE:
Skinny fat: -1
Skinny: -0.5
Average: +0
Lean muscular: +0.25
Jacked: +0.5
Fat: -0.75

STEP 5: NT/ND

NT: +0

ND:
High functioning autism/aspergers: -1
Low functioning: it's over
ADHD:-0.25
Other stuff like BPD, Schizophrenia etc.: It's over


Example of SMV calculation: Hasanabi

Face: 6.25
Race: White passing so +0
Height: 6'4 +1.25 so bumps him up to 7.5 now
Frame: Wide shoulders +0.25 so 7.75 now
Body type: jacked +0.5 so 8.25 now
ND/NT: NT so +0
SMV: 8.25

 

[chud10282892]

I have negative smv

 

[eyes33]

nice

 

[bulltn]

DNR

 

[RandomAutist]

Bruh
skin color = 0
5’4 =-4
Frame = 0
Body type is + 0.25
NT = it’s over
face = 2.5

even if we ignore the autism I’m -1.75

Yo is that good bro

 

[j1gga]

dnr but nice thread

 

[killuacel]

dnr but nice thread

How can you not read but say nice thread

 

[Soy_Beta_Cuckold228]

Also depends on your location. Asians will do better in Asia, blacks in Africa or America, whites in Europe and etc.

Also if you’re oldcel then it’s -5

 

[j1gga]

How can you not read but say nice thread

long = more than 0 effort

 

[ilikefish]

Nice

 

[Pickletoil]

Also depends on your location. Asians will do better in Asia, blacks in Africa or America, whites in Europe and etc.

Also if you’re oldcel then it’s -5

This is your SMV to white women in European/white countries, of course for ethnic women or other countries race part will differ

 

[horseman.]

This is so autistic, how did we let self improvement go this far

 

[Pickletoil]

This is so autistic, how did we let self improvement go this far

>

 

[WonkyChin186]

Factors that determine your SMV from most to least important:
1-Face
2-Race
3-Height
4-Frame/physique
4 (tied)-ND/NT

How to calculate it:

STEP 1: Get your face rating, you can do this using attractiveness charts, getting a rating from someone who knows how to rate, or rating yourself (triple digit IQ required for this)

STEP 2: Apply race tax (this is in western countries, in Asian countries for example being black is worse than being Asian and maybe even Indian)

White: +0
Latino:-0.5
Black: Ranges from -0.5 to -2 depending on skin tone

Light skin -0.5
View attachment 5336294



Mocha skin tone: -0.75
View attachment 5336306

Dark skin: -1
View attachment 5336309


Vantablack east african: -2

View attachment 5336316

Now moving on to other races

East Asian: -1.25

Indian: -1 to -2 depending on skin tone like blacks, on average -1.5

South Asian (Asian with brown skin): -1.5

STEP 3: FACTOR IN HEIGHT

Assuming average of 5'11 (Gen z western countries), if average height where you are is 5'9 for example then subtract 2 inches from the following list and go by that:

5'4: -4
5'5: -3
5'6 (average female height): -2
5'7:-1.5
5'8: -1
5'9: -0.66
5'10: -0.33
5'11: +0
6': +0.25
6'1: +0.5
6'2: +0.75
6'3: +1
6'4: +1.25
6'5: +1.25
6'6: +1.5
6'7: +1.5
6'8: +1.25
6'9: +1


STEP 4: FRAME/PHYSIQUE

FRAME:

Narrow shoulders: -0.25
Average: 0
Wide shoulders : +0.25

BODY TYPE:
Skinny fat: -1
Skinny: -0.5
Average: +0
Lean muscular: +0.25
Jacked: +0.5
Fat: -0.75

STEP 5: NT/ND

NT: +0

ND:
High functioning autism/aspergers: -1
Low functioning: it's over
ADHD:-0.25
Other stuff like BPD, Schizophrenia etc.: It's over


Example of SMV calculation: Hasanabi

View attachment 5336451


Face: 6.25
Race: White passing so +0
Height: 6'4 +1.25 so bumps him up to 7.5 now
Frame: Wide shoulders +0.25 so 7.75 now
Body type: jacked +0.5 so 8.25 now
ND/NT: NT so +0
SMV: 8.25

holy shit this is actually really close to reality, you got the lower end of height perfect

it maxes at 6'4 and +1 tho

body itself should just be rated overall, and its 30% as important as face

avg ND is -1.5

Race is irrelevant, just whites happen to be way better looking on average

 

[zygosmasher]

I’m 5.75 apparently

 

[Pickletoil]

holy shit this is actually really close to reality, you got the lower end of height perfect

it maxes at 6'4 and +1 tho

body itself should just be rated overall, and its 30% as important as face

avg ND is -1.5

Race is irrelevant, just whites happen to be way better looking on average

Studies show that women most like men 10 inches taller than them so 6'4 (since 5'6 is avg) would be the ideal height according to that but you gotta consider the fact that taller (5'8-5'11) women have higher smv than shorter women so taller guys attract maybe slightly less quantity but the quality makes up for it.

ND being -1.5 is debatable but I think 1-1.25 for high functioning autists is still correct.

I considered that possibility about race but some experiments were ran where they only changed the skin tone from white to brown and the likes went down to like 60%, also an official study in the NL did the same thing and got similar results.

 

[WonkyChin186]

Studies show that women most like men 10 inches taller than them so 6'4 (since 5'6 is avg) would be the ideal height according to that but you gotta consider the fact that taller (5'8-5'11) women have higher smv than shorter women so taller guys attract maybe slightly less quantity but the quality makes up for it.

ND being -1.5 is debatable but I think 1-1.25 for high functioning autists is still correct.

I considered that possibility about race but some experiments were ran where they only changed the skin tone from white to brown and the likes went down to like 60%, also an official study in the NL did the same thing and got similar results.

tall girls don't have higher smv and on avg are much uglier with an uglier body

nd is only a bad thing because it impacts sq and eq, if truly high functioning then it subtracts 0

yeah they are just uglier facially

just rate the faces properly and you don't have to do some goofy skin color reduction thing

white guy who gets a mega tan won't have his smv nuked and its super location dependent, those specific cases they just happened to be way uglier

 

[Pickletoil]

Burp

 

[Pickletoil]

Bump

 

[Pickletoil]

I’m 5.75 apparently

What are your stats on each

 

[zygosmasher]

5.5, 5’10, lean, wide frame, nt

 

[zygosmasher]

5.5, 5’10, lean, wide frame, nt

White aswell and I have like 30 bodies no less than a 5 facially either so idk how accurate this smv chart is

I think nt should boost you by a lot because that seems to be the king of attracting and getting with girls from my experience

 

[Gudlifer]

it said im a 9.74 i think its pretty accurate

 

[Shirobon]

This is so autistic, how did we let self improvement go this far

been like this wym

 

[horseman.]

been like this wym

Smv is way too nuanced to be calculated unlike facial attractiveness. Best way to find out ur smv is through irl

 

[LayDownAndFrott]

say whatever you want, women only give a shit past the 6ft point and as long as you meet that criteria nothing really changes because for them being over 6ft is a status thing
6'9 is too fucking uncanny for most women also so idfk if that should be getting a point added
Neurodivergency is commonly associated with higher IQ so add a point due to status though how well you can mask it and for how long dictates SMV in the long run and this is furthermore reinforced by economic status which can more often than not be the factor which decides whether or not it will slip by whatever means it may be

Additonally for Neurodivergency, add and remove points in regards to spectrums, etc primarily due to the fact that some foids actually take a liking to the Steve Jobs kind

All of this is furthermore reinforced SMV Wise by Life History Theory being applied to the Human Psyche and genuine SMV furthermore influencing reproductive success

 

[Pickletoil]

say whatever you want, women only give a shit past the 6ft point and as long as you meet that criteria nothing really changes because for them being over 6ft is a status thing
6'9 is too fucking uncanny for most women also so idfk if that should be getting a point added
Neurodivergency is commonly associated with higher IQ so add a point due to status though how well you can mask it and for how long dictates SMV in the long run and this is furthermore reinforced by economic status which can more often than not be the factor which decides whether or not it will slip by whatever means it may be

Additonally for Neurodivergency, add and remove points in regards to spectrums, etc primarily due to the fact that some foids actually take a liking to the Steve Jobs kind

All of this is furthermore reinforced SMV Wise by Life History Theory being applied to the Human Psyche and genuine SMV furthermore influencing reproductive success

6ft is barely above avg (5'11), it spread on social media because it's just a nice number to say, in Europe the trend is 190cm (6'3) height def matter above 6'.

You say it's uncanny but look at 6'8 the great and in tall subreddits where super tall guys post, you're underestimating just how heightist women are.

As for the rest of what you said you're just completely wrong to the point of comedy. Look at the employment rate for autistic people and that's all I have to say

 

[Blondepawg'sDildo]

Factors that determine your SMV from most to least important:
1-Face
2-Race
3-Height
4-Frame/physique
4 (tied)-ND/NT

How to calculate it:

STEP 1: Get your face rating, you can do this using attractiveness charts, getting a rating from someone who knows how to rate, or rating yourself (triple digit IQ required for this)

STEP 2: Apply race tax (this is in western countries, in Asian countries for example being black is worse than being Asian and maybe even Indian)

White: +0
Latino:-0.5
Black: Ranges from -0.5 to -2 depending on skin tone

Light skin -0.5
View attachment 5336294



Mocha skin tone: -0.75
View attachment 5336306

Dark skin: -1
View attachment 5336309


Vantablack east african: -2

View attachment 5336316

Now moving on to other races

East Asian: -1.25

Indian: -1 to -2 depending on skin tone like blacks, on average -1.5

South Asian (Asian with brown skin): -1.5

STEP 3: FACTOR IN HEIGHT

Assuming average of 5'11 (Gen z western countries), if average height where you are is 5'9 for example then subtract 2 inches from the following list and go by that:

5'4: -4
5'5: -3
5'6 (average female height): -2
5'7:-1.5
5'8: -1
5'9: -0.66
5'10: -0.33
5'11: +0
6': +0.25
6'1: +0.5
6'2: +0.75
6'3: +1
6'4: +1.25
6'5: +1.25
6'6: +1.5
6'7: +1.5
6'8: +1.25
6'9: +1


STEP 4: FRAME/PHYSIQUE

FRAME:

Narrow shoulders: -0.25
Average: 0
Wide shoulders : +0.25

BODY TYPE:
Skinny fat: -1
Skinny: -0.5
Average: +0
Lean muscular: +0.25
Jacked: +0.5
Fat: -0.75

STEP 5: NT/ND

NT: +0

ND:
High functioning autism/aspergers: -1
Low functioning: it's over
ADHD:-0.25
Other stuff like BPD, Schizophrenia etc.: It's over


Example of SMV calculation: Hasanabi

View attachment 5336451


Face: 6.25
Race: White passing so +0
Height: 6'4 +1.25 so bumps him up to 7.5 now
Frame: Wide shoulders +0.25 so 7.75 now
Body type: jacked +0.5 so 8.25 now
ND/NT: NT so +0
SMV: 8.25

Caged at LTG and Vantablack

 

[deadaverage]

You can’t really put a number on SMV.

The only way to have an idea on this is basically just how easy it is for you to go from no contact to having the girl in your bed.

If you can’t pull it’s zero.
If you have to work for it with multiple dates and drinks and shit then it’s 5 so you’re average
If you can talk to her for 10-30 minutes and then she’s crawling up your walls in your bedroom then you’re a 10.

No idea why we have to over complicate things with 6.25948382829 and so on.

 

[Pickletoil]

Bump