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Etson

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6'2.5, 179lbs.

After a few months of researching, talking to doctors, bloodtest, etc. There's no one who can fix your issues except yourself. No doctor will take you as far as you want to go.


Blood Work prior to Stack
  • Testosterone: 9.9 nmol/L (285ng)
  • Estradiol (E2): 114 pmol/L (~31 pg/mL)
  • SHBG: 19 nmol/L
  • LH: 1.8 IU/L
  • Thyroid (TSH): 2.01 mIU/L
  • FSH: 1.5 IU/L
  • Estradiol (E2): 114 pmol/L
  • Prolactin: 10.8 µg/L
  • TSH: 2.01 mIU/L
  • Glucose (fasted): 4.9 mmol/L
  • PSA: 0.4 µg/L
CBC (blood counts)
  • WBC: 6.5 × 10⁹/L
  • RBC: 5.12 × 10¹²/L
  • Hemoglobin: 149 g/L
  • Hematocrit: 0.44 L/L
  • MCV: 86 fL
  • MCHC: 340 g/L
  • Platelets: 236 × 10⁹/L
  • Neutrophils: 4.0 × 10⁹/L
  • Lymphocytes: 1.8 × 10⁹/L
  • Vitamin B12: 441 pmol/L
  • Albumin: 46 g/L

What I am taking to correct the issues with T, and increase muscle mass and definition

- $40 - Clomiphene Citrate 25mg EOD (Test Increase) -
The goal is to peak around 800–1200+ ng/dL. My LH/FSH are low, same with my SHBG, every ng/dL of Total T becomes extra Free T which will give me far better muscle-building. Because I am coming from such low T, I am expecting+10-12 lbs lean mass, and a reduction of 10–20 lbs fat in 4–6 months.

- $40 - MK-677 15mg 50 days - This will raise natural GH + IGF-1 by 50–80% which will help with my muscle and continued leanmaxx goal.
This Pairs perfectly with Clomid’s T boost with dual anabolic pathways. Will be switching to CJC after 50 day cycle. Expecting 2-6lbs of lean mass.

- $30 L-Carinate Injections 500 mg training days + 250 mg rest - My low T migrated a lot of my fat to love handles, the 2.5-3x increase of my T will help address this but L-Car should also aid in this. For men with stubborn love handles, it's most likely a hormonal issue like it was with me. L-Car shuttles fat into mitochondria for burning. My low body-fat storage pattern (hips) responds best to this.

- $30 Finasteride 1.25mg (DHT Blocking) - DHT sucks after puberty, male alopecia runs on my fathers side, stopping anymore thinning.

- $70 Minoxidil 2mg - Increasing hair volume everywhere

- Amitriptyline 25mg - Solves chronic nausea via brain-gut connection, also puts you to sleep, and helps counter any Clomid side effects.

- ALCAR 1,500 mg oral - Helps with Mental drive + extra fat oxidation, it crosses blood-brain barrier and increase my focus/mood

- Vitamin D 5,000 IU, Magnesium 200 mg, Zinc 50 mg, Omega-3 1,200 mg - This is basic, supports my T production and anti-inflammation.

- Taurine 500 mg, HMB 1,000 mg, Beta-Carotene 50,000 IU, Vitamin C -
Beta for the slight tan look, Taurine/HMB reduce soreness after workouts.

Will post results in 4-6 months. I've dealt with a stubborn family doctor who refused to fix my T, and an insane expensive private health clinic that wanted to charge me $400/month for Clomid and an AI I didn't even need. If results are not what I want, I will then consider Anavar, seems to be the safest oral anabolic steroid. It'll add around 4-8lbs in 6-8 weeks at al ow dosage, there's no water bloat which is nice, and it only has mild T suppression of 20-40% and no Estrogenic side effects because there is no aromatization.
 
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Just take test, serms dont do enough and tiure still on the endocrine cycle
$40 - MK-677 15mg 50 days - This will raise natural GH + IGF-1 by 50–80% which will help with my muscle and continued leanmaxx goal.
This Pairs perfectly with Clomid’s T boost with dual anabolic pathways. Will be switching to CJC after 50 day cycle. Expecting 2-6lbs of lean mass.
Wont so mcuh but fine if you want some more hunger and slightly better recovery i guess
$30 L-Carinate Injections 500 mg training days + 250 mg rest - My low T migrated a lot of my fat to love handles, the 2.5-3x increase of my T will help address this but L-Car should also aid in this. For men with stubborn love handles, it's most likely a hormonal issue like it was with me. L-Car shuttles fat into mitochondria for burning. My low body-fat storage pattern (hips) responds best to this.
No it did not you just got fat, get aqualyx if leanmaxxing doesnt do enough for you or you want them to be giga small
$30 Finasteride 1.25mg (DHT Blocking) - DHT sucks after puberty, male alopecia runs on my fathers side, stopping anymore thinning.
Switch to dut
 
How tf is your test only 285. You need to fix your shitty lifestyle
 
testosterone is cheap and easy to get dude
 
enclo is shit bro hop on real test

I'd rather not have to hop on Test if Clomid responds well.

Clomid Raises natural T to 800–1,300 ng/dL in 70–80% of young hypo men, which is borderline supraphysiological. It makes zero sense to go straight to exogenesis route without first running a well studied and tested route of Endo or Clomid.
 
testosterone is cheap and easy to get dude

It's actually not if you want to maintain fertility and bring on hCG, which is expensive. The studies on both clomid and endoclo are quite numerous for all ages of men, and on the few young men studies we have they have the similar results to a TRT dosage.

Again, not against injecting T, but I'd rather not have the pin schedule, the E Side effects, and the infertility when I am already in the perfect spot for a high responder on Clomid.

I am jumping from 285ng. The lower you start, the bigger the jump.
 
Just take test, serms dont do enough and tiure still on the endocrine cycle

Why instantly hop on T when I, a 22-year-old secondary hypo with LH/FSH 1.8/1.5 and SHBG 19 can achieve upwards of 1000-1300ng on 25 mg Clomid daily? Seems a bit silly.
Wont so mcuh but fine if you want some more hunger and slightly better recovery i guess
Well 15 mg MK-677 is around+60–80 % IGF-1 for 7 straight weeks. This can roughly result in 2-4 lbs extra lean mass.


This was on obese men, but they had significantly increased fat-free mass.

But you are right, it's really minimal and I'll probably switch it out, what do you suggest? I considered CJC+Ipam but there's not much info on that one.

No it did not you just got fat,
Come on now, hormonal fat patterning is very much real. Tell that to every single guy who had 250 ng/dL, gyno-prone fat distribution, and watched the love handles melt the second T went from 280ng to 900ng. We'll come back here in a few months and we will see what happens then :)


Get aqualyx if leanmaxxing doesnt do enough for you or you want them to be giga small
Aqualyx is a $600 and it doesn't fix the main issue. I want to tackle the actual hormone problem which is permanent.


Switch to dut
1.25 mg finasteride already nukes scalp DHT by 65–70 %. Not worth it unless fin fails after 12–18 months.
 
Why instantly hop on T when I, a 22-year-old secondary hypo with LH/FSH 1.8/1.5 and SHBG 19 can achieve upwards of 1000-1300ng on 25 mg Clomid daily? Seems a bit silly.
500 test will get you around 3k ish, they are objectively worse as you are also on the bullshit endocrine cycle
Well 15 mg MK-677 is around+60–80 % IGF-1 for 7 straight weeks. This can roughly result in 2-4 lbs extra lean mass.

https://www.acpjournals.org/doi/10.7326/0003-4819-149-9-200811040-00003
This was on obese men, but they had significantly increased fat-free mass.

But you are right, it's really minimal and I'll probably switch it out, what do you suggest? I considered CJC+Ipam but there's not much info on that one.
They didnt seem to even have a way in the study to do minus the bloat while measuring

Come on now, hormonal fat patterning is very much real. Tell that to every single guy who had 250 ng/dL, gyno-prone fat distribution, and watched the love handles melt the second T went from 280ng to 900ng. We'll come back here in a few months and we will see what happens then :)
Gynonis hormonal, fat distrobution is not yiu genetics wont change

Aqualyx is a $600 and it doesn't fix the main issue. I want to tackle the actual hormone problem which is permanent.
Its like 50 bucks for a 10×8ml

1.25 mg finasteride already nukes scalp DHT by 65–70 %. Not worth it unless fin fails after 12–18 months.
The less dht the better, 2,5mg dut nlocks 80
 

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